After new skills, Pure STR vs. Pure INT vs. Hybrid

Fyre · Post by **Fyre** » Sun May 06, 2007 4:42 pm

I've heard about the new skills coming out for max leveled players, so I have a question.

In purely a PvP sense, who do you think will come out on top at the max level with those new skills everyone talks about: Pure INT, Pure STR, or hybrids?

DS^ · Post by **DS^** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:24 pm

well, I have no idea but there are people saying that pure str bow will do very well. Because they are gonna have stun+kb

but MAYBE I think it still will be pure str glavier or blader

Post by **Stress** » Sun May 06, 2007 5:57 pm

Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

shadowman20875 · Post by **shadowman20875** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:08 pm

tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:17 pm

heavy hybrids (2:1 or close to it) will get stronger and stronger each new skill and level.
I should try contacting some people on redsea asking if li_ke_xuan added more str to his hybrid that would be very interesting if it was that will be one of the few hybrids with sosun gear vs sosun pure str and sosun pure int.

Post by **Stress** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:20 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:38 pm

tiglari51 wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.

+1 hybrid s/s plz.. that can't even get a scratch on pile of butter. Worthless build.
Imo pure int will be the best.. cause with the new ice skills pure int will be able to tank .. even against pure str's.. ^^

and for everybody who didn't see the video I'm talking about...check out the pure int at about 3min in the vid... it takes 2 archers and 2 bladers to take him down. That's pretty sweet.. i wouldn't go against 4 pure str's right now..^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4

And after pure int.. or maybe even above.. will come pure str bow... cause of the new skills for that.. insane .. i'd be so happy if i was that build.. they use to be p.ussy's.. but they will rise.. after the new skills..right to the top ^^

Post by **Rainigul** » Sun May 06, 2007 8:34 pm

shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

+1

Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.

People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:20 pm

hybrid s/s will be strong with 4 stabs and i dont know why people say its dmg is so bad i do 4.5k to glaviers with nukes and 2.6k a stab

at lvl 60 naked magic balance only 80% (98% with my items) hp 5200

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:43 pm

tiglari51 wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.

at lvl 90 cap, ull see hybrid spears that arent rich geting outdamaged quite easily, + dont forget there will be 4 stabs, thats about, lets say, 8k+? with new kd 5k+? i presume?
Without beeing touched. Beeing able to tank.

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Sun May 06, 2007 9:49 pm

flexo wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.

+1 hybrid s/s plz.. that can't even get a scratch on pile of butter. Worthless build.
Imo pure int will be the best.. cause with the new ice skills pure int will be able to tank .. even against pure str's.. ^^

and for everybody who didn't see the video I'm talking about...check out the pure int at about 3min in the vid... it takes 2 archers and 2 bladers to take him down. That's pretty sweet.. i wouldn't go against 4 pure str's right now..^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4

And after pure int.. or maybe even above.. will come pure str bow... cause of the new skills for that.. insane .. i'd be so happy if i was that build.. they use to be p.ussy's.. but they will rise.. after the new skills..right to the top ^^

Ints will have to sacrifice weapon/fire tree though. And if you think hybrid s/s is bad, well, how many have you seen? Cuz there are some great s/s hybrids out there.

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Sun May 06, 2007 10:59 pm

well i'd say 15 and like 4 are friends of mine.
but if you say so maybe they all played it wrong and have i never met a good one

serously doubt it though

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Mon May 07, 2007 6:14 am

Rainigul wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

+1

Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.

People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

yeah abviously not..lol

but your little calculation has a few flaws, here is a little correction

little higher dmg + little higher hp + little higher mp +mana shield + block + KD = average build that's not real good in anything.

Post by **Rainigul** » Tue May 08, 2007 2:55 am

decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:26 am

Rainigul wrote:decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

lol everything axcept gm

well i'm just gonna say: that's your opion and I haven't seen anybody on Rome server that convinced me to even think slightly in that direction. But apparently there are ppl that know how to build and play a hybrid, I just haven't seen any. :roll:

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Tue May 08, 2007 9:32 am

If it's a group battle pure int will pwn..

1v1 I think it'll be exciting, outcome will differ every time.

Stefaab · Post by **Stefaab** » Tue May 08, 2007 2:06 pm

i'm for the str archers

and that new skill looks good

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Tue May 08, 2007 3:14 pm

Stefaab wrote:i'm for the str archers

and that new skill looks good

Yeah, I am especially excited about the kb... lol that rapes

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue May 08, 2007 6:41 pm

Wouldn't STR archer get out damaged by the hybrid archers?

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Wed May 09, 2007 12:21 am

BakaFish wrote:Wouldn't STR archer get out damaged by the hybrid archers?

maybe on 1 hit. But if you take the average then it won't cause archers do a lot of crit and pure str crit are higher....

not sure about this though.. just what the theory says^^

zephyr · Post by **zephyr** » Wed May 09, 2007 5:24 am

gonna have to go with hybrid int s/s here

quad stab+crits are too good to pass up

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Thu May 10, 2007 9:49 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4

Guy in the vid. looks like a glavier to me =|

Besides, after update prob bow. I can kill most of the people i fight against, give me kb and stun and I will whoop yoo ass =)

Da_Realest · Post by **Da_Realest** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:34 pm

Any type of bow build will benefit from the update more than any other build.

Heavy str hybrid bows will be one of the biggest threats to strs since they can now stun and knockback with a higher normal damage than a pure str bow. New books of anti devil also means higher chances of criticals.

BaronSengir · Post by **BaronSengir** » Thu May 10, 2007 10:36 pm

blah blah blah
i say pure int bow will rape /sarcasm

and the ppl who say hybrids will own hahaha believe me or not but once it uncaps and with new skllls you will find out that your build is crap its gonna be the pures that will shine

Post by **Rainigul** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:24 pm

flexo wrote:
Rainigul wrote:decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

lol everything axcept gm
well i'm just gonna say: that's your opion and I haven't seen anybody on Rome server that convinced me to even think slightly in that direction. But apparently there are ppl that know how to build and play a hybrid, I just haven't seen any.

I hope you're not being sarcastic, though I'm 90% sure you are.
Hybrid swords are awesome.

Vortexx · Post by **Vortexx** » Thu May 10, 2007 11:27 pm

Rainigul wrote:
shadowman20875 wrote:
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.

hybrid s/s ftw

+1

Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.

People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

Where did you people heard it's a mana shield? Or is it another rumor..

IguanaRampage · Post by **IguanaRampage** » Fri May 11, 2007 12:59 am

flexo wrote:well i'd say 15 and like 4 are friends of mine.
but if you say so maybe they all played it wrong and have i never met a good one serously doubt it though

well yeah most of them suck I'll give you that, but Xone and _Medea_ on Tibet were incredible, with fairly good gear and pretty pimped balances.

Slayer007 · Post by **Slayer007** » Fri May 11, 2007 1:04 am

its gonna be pure str bow because we get kb, stun and we already got awesome crits....with phantom maxxed we will be unstopable and glavies will be uber strong to..as for hybrids they are horrilbe and in pvp right now i can go afk or almost every hybrid lmao and i can ow nthem in pvp even with my 7 gap hahahahaha

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri May 11, 2007 10:45 am

Slayer007 wrote:its gonna be pure str bow because we get kb, stun and we already got awesome crits....with phantom maxxed we will be unstopable and glavies will be uber strong to..as for hybrids they are horrilbe and in pvp right now i can go afk or almost every hybrid lmao and i can ow nthem in pvp even with my 7 gap hahahahaha

I pee on arrogant people. You might pwn as much as you say, just say it otherwise ^^

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:49 am

BaronSengir wrote:blah blah blah
i say pure int bow will rape /sarcasm

and the ppl who say hybrids will own hahaha believe me or not but once it uncaps and with new skllls you will find out that your build is crap its gonna be the pures that will shine

like it ain't like that already...

no need to wait for the cap .. just look now... and at the cap you will really have a worthless char..

well not all hybrid.. but at least 95%

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