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define the term nuke for me plz :(

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:49 pm
by silkroadplayer
hi im new to rose and dotn quite udnerstand the term nuking :(

can anyone explain it 2 me ^.^

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:56 pm
by Stallowned
A nuke is basically a ranged magical attack
The traditional nukes start at level 30 for fire, ice and lightning
Lion shout is a weaker nuke found in lightning.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:05 pm
by silkroadplayer
so which is the best nuke ^^?

fire,ice or lightning

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 1:13 pm
by Stallowned
Fire does the most damage.
If you are going as a pure int, it is best to use fire as your main nuke, and use lightning for support.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:42 pm
by Freedom-Fighta
Technically lightningdoes the MOST damage...

Until the fire nuke hits its third book.

Here are the basic comparasins between the nukes:

    Fire
  • Best Average Damage
  • Moderate Splash Range
  • Medium Mana Cost
  • Medium Casting Duration
  • Only Nuke with third book unlocked as of yet

    Lightning
  • Highest Maximum Damage
  • Lowest Minimum Damage
  • Lowest Average Damage
  • Highest Splash Range
  • Longest Cast Time
  • Highest Mana Cost

    Ice
  • Lowest Maximum and Minimun damage
  • Fastest Casting Time
  • Lowest Mana Cost
  • Lowest Splash Range

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 2:55 pm
by Stallowned
When I compare my nuke's stats, my fire one has more max damage than my lightning one :?
I've always heard fire had the maximum damage :? :?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:11 pm
by Freedom-Fighta
Lets see...

Lightning 2nd book:483~859 (300%)
Fire 2nd Book: 548~913 (300%) 3/-35%

Hmm.... strange that.. most have that reversed...

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:27 pm
by Stallowned
Freedom-Fighta wrote:Lets see...

Lightning 2nd book:483~859 (300%)
Fire 2nd Book: 548~913 (300%) 3/-35%

Hmm.... strange that.. most have that reversed...

I think the 3/35% means that it can hit up to 3 different monsters for 35% of the possible damage.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:33 pm
by Antione
what lvl do you get the 2 books at for fire and lightning?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 7:10 pm
by Vice
Let me get this straight. Let's say you imbue fire before using the "fire nuke" it will do more damage? I always just assumed the nuke itself was the full damage. But you can imbue a nuke? Or are people calling the spear throw with imbue a nuke?

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:36 pm
by subic623
yes, u can imbue a nuke and it is stronger than just doing the nuke alone :-D

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:59 pm
by Freedom-Fighta
yea i accidentally copied the penetration ratio on fire, which i didnt do for ice...

And yes, that is what it means, penetrates up to 3 times (4 targets) and hits for -35% each additional target.

Im personally going Fire + Lightning as that is the strongest combination. I dont care if ice is faster casting and lower mana, it simply doesnt compare to having must-piercing force.

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:20 pm
by Blaze
I agree with Freedom-fighta, fire and lightning nuke is the best combo. Fire for its obvious high damage, lightning because if its ability to electrify and has must piercing force.
Works great in PvP, lightning nuke him, hope he gets electricuted and his parry drops and then hit him with high damage with fire. and if he still doesnt drop dead, youre lightning nuke must be recharged by then..

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:45 am
by BigBadDragon
wait.... ur saying u can use imbue fire (any weapon), then cast the fire nuke and the nuke will do extra dmg from the imbue?


Also... will the passive +physical dmg % skills like Flame Devil Force also increase your nuke dmg?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 1:29 pm
by Freedom-Fighta
BigBadDragon wrote:wait.... ur saying u can use imbue fire (any weapon), then cast the fire nuke and the nuke will do extra dmg from the imbue?

Yes


BigBadDragon wrote:Also... will the passive +physical dmg % skills like Flame Devil Force also increase your nuke dmg?


No, Flame Devil Force is % Physical Damage.

The reccommended nuking imbue is lightning due to the Electorcution effect. Proccing this effect will lower target's armor, which can be devastating when a 2k + nuke is heading their way.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 7:08 pm
by BigBadDragon
wont fire imbue be good too since it does more dmg and has a higher % of causing burn, which also causes more dmg?

I think fire imbue would be good pvp cause people prob have autopill for the shock, so the extra dmg from fire imbue would be good.

Lightning imbue might be better pvm?