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Lvl 90 Dual

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:28 am
by YangKang
hey guys im thinking of going DualWeapon blade/glaive but the problem is i dont have any idea what set up to use at 90 cap ~.~ i was thinking aswell for bow as passive would be 89 bicheon 54 bow for hawk and passive 68 light and 89 fire but for glaive i dont have any idea >_> someone may help me ^^?

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:43 am
by Stress
90 bicheon, 70 fire, 70 light, 70 heuksal
OR
90 heuksal, 70 fire, 70 light , 70 bicheon.

However, I would not recommend a dual blade/glaive. The new skills will come, and the build will be weak.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:47 am
by tedtwilliger
The new skills will come, and the build will be weak.



any justification for that???


do u KNOW what the new skillz are????


in my opion, dont plan ofr the 90 cap, its a long time away, and if your masteries fail, just use relocation skillz... simple

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:50 am
by Stress
The skills are already in display, ted. You will not want to have four weak mastery trees. You will want to have three strong ones. Adding a skill at lv 90 will cost 5500 SP.
A dual bich/heuksal build will be facing bladers with new KD and quad stab or glaivers with the new soul spear and ghost spear.
In the meantime, the dual will be stuck with SSS and demon blade force.
Consider this, and observe the outvome.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:03 pm
by tedtwilliger
lolz... well i have quit... so how would i know the new skillz?? lol



so... i admit.. im cut here lol


haha

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:25 am
by HBblade
all builds w/ 4 masteries will have to lose 1 mastery or another once new skills comes out :D

higher the mastery=better skills opened

a build that has 4+ masteries will have masteries so spread out that they wont be able to get better skills, or get the % bonus of the weapon/force

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:14 am
by tomiotar
HBblade wrote:all builds w/ 4 masteries will have to lose 1 mastery or another once new skills comes out :D

higher the mastery=better skills opened

a build that has 4+ masteries will have masteries so spread out that they wont be able to get better skills, or get the % bonus of the weapon/force




You can easily do 90 90 60 60 and get the passive as they are known now (nukers 90 for fire and light, others build 90 for weapon and imbue). Consider that the other 2 trees are buffs trees.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:33 pm
by takolin
tomiotar wrote:
HBblade wrote:all builds w/ 4 masteries will have to lose 1 mastery or another once new skills comes out :D

higher the mastery=better skills opened

a build that has 4+ masteries will have masteries so spread out that they wont be able to get better skills, or get the % bonus of the weapon/force




You can easily do 90 90 60 60 and get the passive as they are known now (nukers 90 for fire and light, others build 90 for weapon and imbue). Consider that the other 2 trees are buffs trees.


I'd rather have 3 lvl 90 trees for buffs and skills as 2lvl 90 and 2lvl 60.
The lvl 60 buffs will never be able to compete with the lvl 90 ones.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:06 pm
by HBblade
takolin wrote:
tomiotar wrote:
HBblade wrote:all builds w/ 4 masteries will have to lose 1 mastery or another once new skills comes out :D

higher the mastery=better skills opened

a build that has 4+ masteries will have masteries so spread out that they wont be able to get better skills, or get the % bonus of the weapon/force




You can easily do 90 90 60 60 and get the passive as they are known now (nukers 90 for fire and light, others build 90 for weapon and imbue). Consider that the other 2 trees are buffs trees.


I'd rather have 3 lvl 90 trees for buffs and skills as 2lvl 90 and 2lvl 60.
The lvl 60 buffs will never be able to compete with the lvl 90 ones.


lol, 90 90 60 60, then wat would be the point of a dual weapon now??? dual weapons will suk, once lvl 90 comes out & suk even more once new skills come out (if they ever do).

Re: Lvl 90 Dual

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:55 pm
by MURDERER
YangKang wrote:hey guys im thinking of going DualWeapon blade/glaive but the problem is i dont have any idea what set up to use at 90 cap ~.~ i was thinking aswell for bow as passive would be 89 bicheon 54 bow for hawk and passive 68 light and 89 fire but for glaive i dont have any idea >_> someone may help me ^^?



LVL90~GLAIVE

LVL90~BLADE

LVL90~FIRE

LVL30~ICE OR LIGHT

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:04 pm
by juntakashi
LVL90~GLAIVE

LVL90~BLADE

LVL90~FIRE

LVL30~ICE OR LIGHT


lvl 30 ice - no grasswalk, ghost walk

lvl 30 light - no ghost walk at all

so HOW to chase down any 1 to hit at all?

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:58 pm
by social
juntakashi wrote:
LVL90~GLAIVE

LVL90~BLADE

LVL90~FIRE

LVL30~ICE OR LIGHT


lvl 30 ice - no grasswalk, ghost walk

lvl 30 light - no ghost walk at all

so HOW to chase down any 1 to hit at all?


100% speed.. buy it jewelery man :p

but still. just go fire/light/weapon mastery :)

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:51 pm
by Lance
90 bicheon
90 heuksal
90 light
30 fire < for fire shield

thats my plan anyways, atm am

80 bicheon
80 heuksal
78 fire
62 light

Re: Lvl 90 Dual

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:00 pm
by Xeroist
YangKang wrote:hey guys im thinking of going DualWeapon blade/glaive but the problem is i dont have any idea what set up to use at 90 cap ~.~ i was thinking aswell for bow as passive would be 89 bicheon 54 bow for hawk and passive 68 light and 89 fire but for glaive i dont have any idea >_> someone may help me ^^?


I would suggest 90 heuskal, 90 bicheon, 90 fire, and 30 in anything you want.

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:29 pm
by GuruSikh
This is mine for lvl 90 cap. I'm int hybrid s+s/spear.
-->Bich. 85
-->Fire 85
-->Heuk. 60
-->Light 70
Besides new skills around 70ish mastery lvls. I don't how much 5 lvls of mastery will affect my damage :roll: .

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:10 pm
by aznshadow
I'm a Dual Wield: Blade/Glaive
For 80, I'm planning 80 70 70 70 build and at 90 possibly 90 70 70 70.
With Hueksal only going to 90. As Blade/Glaive, most of your damage will be from glaive and blade will be your support/defensive wield due to it's +block and KD.

IF joymax miraculously gives us the new skills with Legend IV update (If joymax gives us an update at all!) then I plan on dropping blade and going 90 90 90 until the 100 cap with 400 mastery (If rumors are true). Then I'd do 100 100 100 100.

Don't think that just because u have 80 80 60 60 build, you'll still have a majority of skills that others will have... Not all the skills are after 80... Most come in after 70. The new skills like the new pacheon or ice buff or fire buff (WTF is the new Ice Buff and Fire Skill???) come in around 30ish 40ish so you're not empty-handed.

Personally, If you're going dual wield at 90 cap, just make the strongest weapon mastery to 90 and keep you 2ndary weapon the same

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:45 pm
by HertogJan
With the new update new skills will come. Arent they going to be above 70?

If so, what is the use to level up only 1 tree, it will leave you way weaker then other buils around you.

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:13 pm
by Rainigul
Use glaive/bow to level, then switch to blade :)

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:32 pm
by BaronSengir
GuruSikh wrote:This is mine for lvl 90 cap. I'm int hybrid s+s/spear.
-->Bich. 85
-->Fire 85
-->Heuk. 60
-->Light 70
Besides new skills around 70ish mastery lvls. I don't how much 5 lvls of mastery will affect my damage :roll: .


5 level gap? lol

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:54 pm
by shoto
the farming will be insane for your build

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:08 am
by Kuribo
no dual builds at lvl 90... the only way is 90 weap mastery and 90 (or close 90) fire and light... i think with the rest masterys, pacheon would be the less suker option :P

the others builds will be weak's... and if u dont think that, just rest wait (maybe all ur entire life, lol):)

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:27 am
by Lance
Kuribo wrote:no dual builds at lvl 90... the only way is 90 weap mastery and 90 (or close 90) fire and light... i think with the rest masterys, pacheon would be the less suker option :P

the others builds will be weak's... and if u dont think that, just rest wait (maybe all ur entire life, lol):)


Lance wrote:90 bicheon
90 heuksal
90 light
30 fire < for fire shield

thats my plan anyways, atm am

80 bicheon
80 heuksal
78 fire
62 light


:?

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:08 pm
by Kuribo
Lance wrote:
Kuribo wrote:no dual builds at lvl 90... the only way is 90 weap mastery and 90 (or close 90) fire and light... i think with the rest masterys, pacheon would be the less suker option :P

the others builds will be weak's... and if u dont think that, just rest wait (maybe all ur entire life, lol):)


Lance wrote:90 bicheon
90 heuksal
90 light
30 fire < for fire shield

thats my plan anyways, atm am

80 bicheon
80 heuksal
78 fire
62 light


:?


what is ur build? ¬¬

fire has the higher dmg, and vital buffs, u cant leave it in 30...

and for fire shield? rofl, fire shield lvl 30 for lvl 90 char? would be useless, dont u think?

dual build at lvl 90 is weak, it dosnt make sense

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:33 am
by Lance
pure STR

fire buffs, the glaive damage makes up for that, as for mag defence increase, if your agaisnt nukers, switch on glaives fanstorm covers that.

if am agaisnt other pure strs' switch on shield skill, sorted.

with lightining, if ur agaisnt a bunch of people when the new skills/castle seige comes out, u can transfer the stun.

fire shield for status effects can be covered easily with a good set of acessories, 70%

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:16 am
by HBblade
i'd rather 90 blade, 90 fire, 90 light

get all my needed blade skills maxed, get my phy.dmg buff/passive, get magical defence buff, get fire shield, get my mag.dmg buff (yes, it really helps a pure str's dmg also), than have 30 in light & only 6% or so mag.dmg buff increase, gay dmg build

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:52 am
by Lance
each to their own then i guess

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:52 am
by flexo
HBblade wrote:
takolin wrote:
tomiotar wrote:
HBblade wrote:all builds w/ 4 masteries will have to lose 1 mastery or another once new skills comes out :D

higher the mastery=better skills opened

a build that has 4+ masteries will have masteries so spread out that they wont be able to get better skills, or get the % bonus of the weapon/force




You can easily do 90 90 60 60 and get the passive as they are known now (nukers 90 for fire and light, others build 90 for weapon and imbue). Consider that the other 2 trees are buffs trees.


I'd rather have 3 lvl 90 trees for buffs and skills as 2lvl 90 and 2lvl 60.
The lvl 60 buffs will never be able to compete with the lvl 90 ones.


lol, 90 90 60 60, then wat would be the point of a dual weapon now??? dual weapons will suk, once lvl 90 comes out & suk even more once new skills come out (if they ever do).


well i'm pure int dueal weapon.. not the same thing.. but i plan on doing
90 fire, 90 light, 60 bicheon, 60 heuksal.

cause my buffs and dmg will come from my fire + light. And the weapon skills are just for the incurable status effects.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:14 pm
by Stress
If I will play when the 90 cap comes out
I will be:
90 bich
90 light
90 ICE
30 fire.

The aggro ice nukes with snake dance and light nukes will mean I will grind very well. Grinding effectively will be important, as I do not bot by any means.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:29 pm
by HBblade
tiglari51 wrote:If I will play when the 90 cap comes out
I will be:
90 bich
90 light
90 ICE
30 fire.

The aggro ice nukes with snake dance and light nukes will mean I will grind very well. Grinding effectively will be important, as I do not bot by any means.


u'll be slower at giants :P

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:19 pm
by Lance
this topic is about dual builds anyways, we dont care about your single builds