Ice phy def or Spear passive for Pure Sword intel Nuker ???

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:49 am

hi there...i hv a pure intel sword char n shld i up ice guard + cold armour or spear passive? m SP farming at lvl 16 now n realli struggling to decide which 1 to get

i myself prefer ice guard because as a pure intel, the phy def is realli weak and nid 2 enhance it...although spear passive require less SP to up

so if i were to up ice/spear to lvl 20 when i char lvl 30, it will be
200+ HP extra VS. phy def +9 (i thk)

so any opinion on which 1 i shld get? wif consideration to higher lvl as well

thx 4 any reply..

XxYODAxX · Post by **XxYODAxX** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:55 am

Both ^^

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:59 am

XxYODAxX wrote:Both ^^

lol Both? i already maxing sword, fire n light tree...
so 4 trees( + ice or spear) is already a heavy burden n wif the 300 max mastery lvl definitely i will not go wif both....haha thx anyway

any more opinion?

pantrofl · Post by **pantrofl** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:01 am

hmm as a pure int nuker u dont have much hp .. bout 8k when lvl 80
i'd take the heuksal passive for extra hp.. phy defence can get much boost from a good armor set,

dont know if 8k is a full blue set (lvl 80)

oh well..

XxYODAxX · Post by **XxYODAxX** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:15 am

If you HAD to choose it would be spear for me.

vanom · Post by **vanom** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:23 am

LOLLLLLL, Intel nuker. I did not know that they have a nuker additionally to cpu, mainboard, etc.

XxYODAxX · Post by **XxYODAxX** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:53 am

Lol i lol'ed at that xD

0000000000 · Post by **0000000000** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:23 pm

make it a dual weapon char ss and spear

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:12 pm

uhh...ok Int Nuker...

make it a dual weapon char ss and spear

hmm...i dun realli feel lk doing a dual build

any more views? coz so far i heard alot ppl saying Spear passive extra HP > Ice def but why (pure int nid HP i noe but so is his WEAK phy def, can that realli be solved by wearing armour ONLY?)? can some 1 convince me?

thx

Embodiment · Post by **Embodiment** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:33 pm

Make duel Wpn's.

Hp's > Def now x-large potions will keep u alive longer with more hps..and it really don't matter if u have, hps or def if a glaiver sss + mars(crit) your dead...but with hps u can stay alive alot long then a int with ice...

Int Ice buff with fully pimped gear with sword/sheild and +55 str on gear should have 9k... with potions set to 80% they will pot at like 6.5k

Int Hps, fully pimped also +55 str will break 10k at lvl 80 potions set at 80% will start working at 8k hps... <--- see lol the differents x-large potions and 1k spear passive will keep u alive longer then (97) defense from ice..

SSS on a ice int with sheild from a glaiver with +7 will do like 2.5k ~ 2.6
SSS on hp int with sheild glaiver with +7 will do 2.7k ~ 2.8 its not like ur giving up a hella alot of dmg here.

But please unless u can get 10k hps with +55str thats the key if u can get +60 str that will be +5str on all 12 of ur items, 6 gear, 4 acc, and sword/sheild will be nice. And +400 hps incease on Chest, Legs, Head also..is needed...and your spear will need +5 str aswell. (without going hybrid, becouse this build will suck for a hybrid)

On oasis only a few lv 80 glaivers(non sosun's) can kill me without getting a crit on mars...all others need a crit..only way they can kill me. Beside this build is alot more fun then a basic (kd, stab, stab, nuker) int u have another skill tree to use aswell... and, it's so hard killing a Int Sword with a Int Sword...but if u switch to spear..u have a chance but they will just spam knock downs then but u still have a chance

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Please look at my movie, i'm fightiing some hybrid int and a pure str glaiver, a normal (int, sheild/sword) will never win these fights....
and everyone is lvl 80...there's a part vs the glaiver where i (kd, stab, stab, stab)+nukes him for 9.7k then mars him for 7.6k and his still alive...NO way a normal int s/s killing glaivers at lvl 80.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqccbGZraDY

Monkey_guy · Post by **Monkey_guy** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:03 pm

Hey, I have the same pure int s/s type character. I was also contemplating about the ice defence vs. extra hp from spear passive. End up going with Ice because I wanted to get all 3 types of nukes (ice nukes look cool!). My character is at lvl 32, so I have 2nd book ice at 1st lvl. I don't see how the ice guard is helping after i buffed it!

Maybe there's a bigger diff when at higher lvl. However, I do notice a major difference between wearing garmet and armor against phy based monster. I'm just cheap on mp pots and a bit obsessed with speed so I stick with garmet:) Of course, as a nuker, white and most orange monsters are already dead before they could get close enough to do phy based damage. However, phy based giants are a bit of a concern :oops:

As a pure int s/s with the almighty shield protection, makes you wonder how pure int spear or bow survive?

juntakashi · Post by **juntakashi** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:38 pm

Int Ice buff with fully pimped gear with sword/sheild and +55 str on gear should have 9k... with potions set to 80% they will pot at like 6.5k

Int Hps, fully pimped also +55 str will break 10k at lvl 80 potions set at 80% will start working at 8k hps... <--- see lol the differents x-large potions and 1k spear passive will keep u alive longer then (97) defense from ice..

SSS on a ice int with sheild from a glaiver with +7 will do like 2.5k ~ 2.6
SSS on hp int with sheild glaiver with +7 will do 2.7k ~ 2.8 its not like ur giving up a hella alot of dmg here

Very detailed and clear...thx...i m convinced to go the Spear passive already !

ice nukes look cool

lol yeah they did but kinda useless.. u r lk wasting ur SP ..

I don't see how the ice guard is helping after i buffed it! Maybe there's a bigger diff when at higher lvl.

ya this is bcoz fr 1st lvl to 48 (i thk) ice guard will oni increase 1 phy def per lvl...until bk 3 lvl 1 then it will suddenly jump to phy def +55 which is alot compared to bk 1n 2....

well pure int shld wear armour/protector( alot ppl suggest Proct ) in the higher lvl

makes you wonder how pure int spear or bow survive

well once again pure int bow cannot surivive .. bow is nt a int weapon blah blah blah... spear would b better to go hybrid int bcoz of lack of shield

thx again for all the replies