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Are Bladers Good At Lv80 Cap? Lv 90?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:00 am
by FiReDRaGoN
As the topic says, I was a blader before, then I switched to glavie, now I want to switch back to blade.
I was wondering can they kill? pvp and pvm? I am lv7x and so bored with glavie.
How do you bladers grind? I never got to have last book stab i switched at 67 sad, anyways input/opinions please.

Re: Are Bladers Good At Lv80 Cap? Lv 90?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:39 am
by KyoReb0rn
FiReDRaGoN wrote:As the topic says, I was a blader before, then I switched to glavie, now I want to switch back to blade.
I was wondering can they kill? pvp and pvm? I am lv7x and so bored with glavie.
How do you bladers grind? I never got to have last book stab i switched at 67 sad, anyways input/opinions please.


i have first hand experience

yes, bladers can kill quite nicely, with the 2 stab + jump stab we are deadly
we just bounce those glavies around, and they will just lay there >.>

as to grinding, its not THAT bad, obviously glavies grind faster, but blader's chain can help our grind a lot

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:02 am
by ciddy
yea and also with the new shield techique upgrade bladers can stand up against higher lvl gliaver :D

come back to the winning side with cooler chains :)

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:17 am
by cuchulainn
Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:36 am
by mKaaru
as with every build in silkroad, they're all good but they need to be fully farmed and on good gear. luck cuch said, it's a trade pickoff, people have a hard time killing you (almost impossible) but you'l have a hard time killing them as well.

from my experience in this game, a blader simply can't kill a glaiver or a same build (blader str based) character in 1 versus 1. all you do is kd and stab in 1v1 and you better hold a bad ass blade if u wanna see their hp hit zero, in the likes of +5~7 with +6x% on phy att and rein at the least with a crit of minimum 10....

in job/guildwars is where the build really pays off, on Aege you got Heaven which is basicly a stabbing guild. the majority of their are bladers, and when u get kd'ed you wont be able stand up again. if you're in a guild with a lot of bladers farmed active and at around your level, the build is good at any level and still fun to play

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:34 am
by FiReDRaGoN
hey mkaru yeah i am from aege as well

hey cuch you still level your blader? or what you use now?
any more input guys?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:00 pm
by Dempster
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.


well, for someone with a mediocre blade this is true. get yourself a nice +7 72 blade, combined with a char that never dies its a lotta fun :)

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:04 pm
by FiReDRaGoN
any other opinions?
any lv80 bladers here?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:38 am
by vanom
well, at lvl 80 u can have about 21k hp as a full str, and 22k as full str glaive. now try to kill me with ur little blade and its little dam :roll:

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:46 am
by :.:.:
Dempster wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.


well, for someone with a mediocre blade this is true. get yourself a nice +7 72 blade, combined with a char that never dies its a lotta fun :)

i dont think u watch too many bladers lvl 80 bladers in pvp against lvl 80 players do u?
even against ints its a pot war.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:52 am
by eaglehawk
im lvl 78 and pvped with a lvl 80 blader with 72+7 blade both of us have +5 shields, im wearing garments no ice and he couldnt take more than 25% of my hp.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:57 am
by IguanaRampage
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

so true. You still post here cuch? :shock:

You should post more often :P

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:43 am
by TenKai
blader cant kill anything =/ i can tank full farmed lv80 with 72+7 blade as pure int in garms i could prob tank without shield too

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:58 am
by MastaChiefX
IguanaRampage wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

so true. You still post here cuch? :shock:

You should post more often :P


+1 lol .

Bladers cant kill anything, nor can they be killed. And no, even with a +7 blade, you still cant kill anything. Sosun+7 maybe, but just normally, not a chance.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:26 pm
by Dempster
:.:.: wrote:
Dempster wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.


well, for someone with a mediocre blade this is true. get yourself a nice +7 72 blade, combined with a char that never dies its a lotta fun :)

i dont think u watch too many bladers lvl 80 bladers in pvp against lvl 80 players do u?
even against ints its a pot war.


Oh please. I have a lvl 79 (with 80 masteries) blader and a 76 one thats farming, It's only a pot war till I crit.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:28 pm
by vanom
crit? lol. try to crit me, when i'm equipped with a crit 100 shield -.-. the dam of the bicheon skills are just ridiculous. just cope with the fact that u cant kill anyone and cannot be killed.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:14 pm
by :.:.:
lol cmon crit?
i have more than 16k hp the only skill that bladers can use to kill me ican just switch to a +5 shield full blue and its like u fighting another blade...
dont come here and say bladers can kill cuz they cant
bladers are tanks, and the best bladers ive seen protect the ints in the big wars, everyone just ignore bladers, and the bladers job is to kd to give the int time to run

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:55 pm
by HBblade
MastaChiefX wrote:
IguanaRampage wrote:
cuchulainn wrote:Blader=impossible to be killed
Blader=impossible to kill

It's a trade off, pick what you want.

so true. You still post here cuch? :shock:

You should post more often :P


+1 lol .

Bladers cant kill anything, nor can they be killed. And no, even with a +7 blade, you still cant kill anything. Sosun+7 maybe, but just normally, not a chance.


bladers can kill, but at lvl 80 dont expect str to kill str

http://youtube.com/watch?v=roVnLcR20uM

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:09 pm
by FiReDRaGoN
lol crit 100 on shield doesnt make you FULLY immune to crits mind you that sht hardly matters

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:39 pm
by vanom
FiReDRaGoN wrote:lol crit 100 on shield doesnt make you FULLY immune to crits mind you that sht hardly matters

HARDLY matters? ur just talking shit dude. try to crit me with my 22k hp. u cant take more than 7k hp away with ur little dam. and u maybe crit 1 time of 15 hits. thats just LOL

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:11 am
by FiReDRaGoN
as i said i am not a blader yet dumbass

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:28 am
by Pro_user911
i would said u should change back to blader. 3 reason
u trained to lvl 67 after that u changed.(if u get glavie from lvl 1 u shuld had train even faster)
2nd reason
Can blader kill ?(ask yourself u are a blader from 1~67)
3rd Reason u are bored of glavie


why did u change to glavie at the 1st place?
glavie are not really that great to me.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:27 am
by vanom
FiReDRaGoN wrote:as i said i am not a blader yet dumbass

obviously u dont have any manners. tell that ur parents next time. if u dont know what to reply to my answer, u just stfu little jerk and dont call other ppl dumbass, only because u dont know what to say.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:57 pm
by FaTiE
bladers are cool, they can laugh their ass of to all glaviers when they try to kill them. very good build for thiefing

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:15 pm
by ulacan
I have got lvl 33 blader fire and its pretty cool when u kill with chains..It can kill but it takes time....better gear more power :D

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:30 pm
by imporkchop
i had a long pot war with a str blade my lvl and around same gear.

i could kill him, kept nuking and spearing

and he couldnt killl me, kept kd stab etc.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm
by Dempster
22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k :D, But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:12 pm
by lelo
lol try to defeat me noob i kd an int lower than me with 1 lvl and i killed him first i didnt know he was killed so tried to stab him but he was dead lol poor guys i am talking about my new lvl 24 blader not old one :)

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:38 pm
by vanom
Dempster wrote:22k hp... liar a glaiver with absolutely perfect gear would have 20967 hp, even an hp scroll wouldn't take you to 22k :D, But i do not see how you consider bladers weak, even IF it was true that a blader can't kill a glaiver of equal lvl, are you saying the glaive will ever kill the blader?

well, can u read? if yes, then read my posts ABOVE. i clearly said that bladers cant kill but also cant be killed.

how 22k? get on every gear and jewelry +5 str, then on every gear +400 hp and add the heuksal passive. but i already noticed that ur noob so i do the calculation for u:
full str at lvl 80: 16060 hp, + 50 str (6 gears, 3 jewelry, 1 weapon) = 18450, + 400 hp on every gear (multipy with 6) = 20850 and finally + heuksal passive = 21928 hp, so around 22k. if u can READ, u would see that i wrote above (1st post, just to help u), that u can have ABOUT 22k. i think 21928 hp is pretty near to that. when ur equipped with a shield, u even can have more hp.

so just stop flaming with unqualified comments and do ur homework 1st and don't waste our time.

ps: i really don't care, if u believe our posts or not. it's not my problem anyway, when hit with ur lvl 80 blade on other chars like shit and they don't even move, lol.

Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:14 pm
by matronyx
........... sigh i come back to see whats up on the forums and still blade vs glaive. lol
vanom ... tell me how its possible to get hp400 on shoulder,wrists,and shoes ???? Thought HP stones were restricted to hat,chest, and trousers.

This game was created with various builds, each excelling in their own way.
To think that the role of a blader would change when you get to lvl 80 diff from a lvl 6x blader would be flawed. Bladers are ubr tankers...they offer support and draw fire away from the weaker ones (nukers). They lvl slowest of all builds regardless if your at 3x or 8x.
What helps them, like every other build, is the quality of weapon/gear they equip.
In the end it boils down to what you prefer, your own fighting style.