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best PVP character.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 9:27 pm
by ru03j89
hello
I am new to the game. I have heard about sp farming so now I am level 10 with no skills added and all stats into strength. I want to build a PVP character and was wondering what stats I should invest. Basically the best PVP build.
Also what should I do with the SPs that I have now?
thanks
ru03j89

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:02 pm
by Zing
First, let's see what you like.

What weapon do you like?

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Bow?

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Glaive?

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Spear?

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Blade?

Or

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Sword?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:05 pm
by PimpC
pure str glavie

maybe a hybrid if done right

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:10 pm
by ru03j89
i dont care what item just best PVP... so wat should I do?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:16 pm
by Skull Rider
pure str/fire/blade is the best for pvp

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:18 pm
by ru03j89
so wat should i do now? add sp? or wait?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:19 pm
by ru03j89
and also when u said stright up fire/ and blade does that mean nothing else/??? and max all these skills?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:40 pm
by PimpC
ok:

if you want to make an str glavie which is the best in pvp, put all of your stat points into str, and do it everytime you level up.

Your main masteries should be fire, and huskel(or bicheon if your a blader)

however if you want to be a decent player you will have to sp farm so you can lvl up cold and light.

and no bladers are not the best for pvp

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:47 pm
by ru03j89
ive heard from alot of peopel that blade is the best for pvp...... so which is it?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:05 pm
by Manowar
Blade or Glaive would make great pvp characters and each has their own advantage. Bladers can tank better than glaives with the shield which makes them hard to kill. Glaives can work better in team pvp than bladers because other people can hit stunned targets. Personally i perfer bladers vs glaives in the pvp aspect due to the fact theyre very difficult to kill but also consider bladers are the slowest lvling build.

If you need guides on those builds there should be some floating around the forums.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:22 pm
by ru03j89
i saw many guilds but most of them say differnt things\. is there one that u would recommand ? also y is blade the slowest levle??
and how many gapes should i have for my sp famring..
Should I max all blade and fire skills? (i dont knw if its possible)
if not wat r the ones that i should avoid?
thanks

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:34 pm
by Manowar
Blades are slowest to lvl because their dmg isnt that great, though if u pvp a glaive and used KD/stabs ur dmg will be pretty close depending on other factors of course but mainly because bladers have the extra defense. But for pvm glaives can usually hit harder than a blader. But if u dont mind the slower lvling definately become a blader. I have alot of fun w/ my current one at the moment.

As for sp farming, IMO best times to farm are lvl 16 and lvl 64. At lvl 16 u wanna do the same old farming at bandit den w/ a bow and having a 9 gap (as in keeping ur HIGHEST mastery 9 lvls below your current level) and i recommend doing most of ur farming then, most likely you wont be able to farm as fast at any other levels. I also like lvl 64 for farming (which im doing right now) because even w/ a 9 gap u still have all the mobbing skills u need, as in 2nd book knockdown and 2nd book sword dance which can help speed up grinding. Plus at lvl 64 u get a new degree wep and the spawns in caves are pretty good for mobbing.

As for blade skills, id get all the skills except for smashing series (though get it for the early levels but only 1st book lvl 1) and the castle shield series is optional. As for fire, get all but fire wall series and flame wave series, and fire shield is optional to what u want to lvl it up to but its very useful for being immune. Personally i perfer fire shield king lvl 2.

Also id consider getting sub trees with your build. My current one is a 90/90/68/52 build, as in those are my mastery limits for all my force at a lvl 90 cap (which is what Ksro and other sros have). The 2 90s are for bicheon and fire, the lvl 68 is for light and the lvl 52 is for ice. If you perfer you could just add light as a sub tree.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:36 pm
by ru03j89
thankx for the advise
so right now i am lvl 10 should i get skills>??? til wat ??
and do u normally level up skills/?? like for example leveling xxx from level 1 to 2?

thanks

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:50 pm
by Manowar
Get ur skills to lvl 7 and stop there. It doesnt matter that u wont have a 9 gap from now till lvl 16 because ull be making much more sp from lvls 16-18 (ull have to delvl alot to get large amounts of sp). Also it helps alot to get bow just for the farming period because getting bow to lvl 7 w/ the skills wont cost u much sp at all and is cheap to delvl when u need to free up masteries.

I always lvl skills up if i got the sp for it. If u try 0 gapping w/o being farmed u most likely wont be able to lvl up all ur skills but it does help alot damage wise if u do. Also u need to max out a skill in order to get the next book anyway for some skills but i would only keep first book snake dance series at lvl 1 because u only need lvl 1 for 2nd book which IMO is better.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:00 am
by PimpC
well I think glavies have a hard time beating bladers in pvp because of kd and shield.

on the other hand I never remembered being killed by a sword and shield in pvp,

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:14 am
by ru03j89
whats the point of delevel?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:22 am
by Manowar
So that you can continue to be able to farm off bandit archers. At lvl 19 they become blue so at lvl 18/19 u want to delvl urself back to 16 so that bandit archers are still green. If u did lvl 16-18 w/ a 9 gap ull only make something like 7k-9k sp not too sure but u wanna farm much more than that (25k-30k sp minimally, 50k+ recommended).

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:25 am
by Sin
ru03j89 wrote:whats the point of delevel?

To maintain optimal level for SP farming while keeping the 9-gap.

If you level too high the amount of SP gained will decrease.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:29 am
by ru03j89
when u say 50k sp does that mean sp points or experience? i have 500 nxt to the yellow bar, ( r we talkin bout the same thingy?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:31 am
by Manowar
ru03j89 wrote:when u say 50k sp does that mean sp points or experience? i have 500 nxt to the yellow bar, ( r we talkin bout the same thingy?


Points and yes im talking about the number next to the yellow bar.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:34 am
by ru03j89
also when udeleve do they take away ur character stats?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:35 am
by PimpC
nop

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:41 am
by ru03j89
Manowar wrote:
ru03j89 wrote:when u say 50k sp does that mean sp points or experience? i have 500 nxt to the yellow bar, ( r we talkin bout the same thingy?


Points and yes im talking about the number next to the yellow bar.



r u freaken shitting me... how is that possible just 1k is hard...
or is it just now. does it get easier?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:42 am
by ru03j89
PimpC wrote:nop


humm so how is that fair,?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:44 am
by ru03j89
Manowar wrote:Get ur skills to lvl 7 and stop there. It doesnt matter that u wont have a 9 gap from now till lvl 16 because ull be making much more sp from lvls 16-18 (ull have to delvl alot to get large amounts of sp). Also it helps alot to get bow just for the farming period because getting bow to lvl 7 w/ the skills wont cost u much sp at all and is cheap to delvl when u need to free up masteries.

I always lvl skills up if i got the sp for it. If u try 0 gapping w/o being farmed u most likely wont be able to lvl up all ur skills but it does help alot damage wise if u do. Also u need to max out a skill in order to get the next book anyway for some skills but i would only keep first book snake dance series at lvl 1 because u only need lvl 1 for 2nd book which IMO is better.


so when the computer calculates ur mastery skill it calculates the one that is higher right? not all ur masteries added up..( for instance u have 5 fire and 5 blade. does that mean that u have 10 mastery or just 5?)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:54 am
by Manowar
ru03j89 wrote:
Manowar wrote:Get ur skills to lvl 7 and stop there. It doesnt matter that u wont have a 9 gap from now till lvl 16 because ull be making much more sp from lvls 16-18 (ull have to delvl alot to get large amounts of sp). Also it helps alot to get bow just for the farming period because getting bow to lvl 7 w/ the skills wont cost u much sp at all and is cheap to delvl when u need to free up masteries.

I always lvl skills up if i got the sp for it. If u try 0 gapping w/o being farmed u most likely wont be able to lvl up all ur skills but it does help alot damage wise if u do. Also u need to max out a skill in order to get the next book anyway for some skills but i would only keep first book snake dance series at lvl 1 because u only need lvl 1 for 2nd book which IMO is better.


so when the computer calculates ur mastery skill it calculates the one that is higher right? not all ur masteries added up..( for instance u have 5 fire and 5 blade. does that mean that u have 10 mastery or just 5?)


If your talking about the mastery limit then yes it does add up to your total mastery limit.

However i was talking about a mastery gap, which is the gap inbetween your current level and your highest mastery. In that case they dont add up, as in you could have only 2 masteries, both at lvl 7, and ull still have the same gap as someone with all 7 masteries all at lvl 7. This is used to determine how much sxp and exp u get a kill, 0 being the most exp and least exp and 9 being the most sxp and least exp (max gap is 9)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:25 am
by numb3rs
go blade..... with the new alchemy glavie vs blade a blade will most likely win because he will get crits more if crit 100 is on shield which defeats the purpose of a str glavie due to the fact you will rarely get crits and to win you need to crit alot so.....

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:43 am
by ru03j89
anymore answerS?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:05 am
by Gseh
good job manowar :)

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:13 am
by Simpledeath2
Hybride S+S. Very good from what i have seen of them in pvp.