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please observe the battle patterns,which is better pvp way?

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:59 am
by howlparrot
i am an int , mastery in ice lite and heuksal.
i do want soul spear skills in my character.

which way should i fight in pvp to do the most dmg and most effective with soul spear?
(both ways i want to somehow freeze or frost enemy)

1.
ICE IMBUE ~ SOUL SPEAR SOUL then SOUL SPEAR TRUTH then SOUL SPEAR SOUL... etc

or

2.
LITE IMBUE ~ FROST NOVA then SOUL SPEAR SOUL then SOUL SPEAR TRUTH then FROST NOVA then SOUL SPEAR SOUL then SOUL SPEAR TRUTH then FROST NOVA... etc

-let say the opponent is not ice resistant with pills and he was a glaiver and i was in wall so he could not stun me

-lite imbue dmg>ice imbue dmg, but the frost nova in between may actually delay some time in damaging opponent? but then the frost nova has 50% freeze in comparison to 5% freeze imbue? but then again, nova delays time to attack...

so which is better with chance of killing?
i know this is quite hard, actually playing the game and experience it, is better but i am on a mac in a holiday somewhere...
please and advice is appreciated

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:03 am
by Ell
Between the two, lightning. But the third option should be fire, which would be most effective.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:15 am
by Cyndaine
fire, generally, but since ur nuke i would agree with ell and go lightning

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:22 am
by _Medea_
As a nuker, always start a fight from range.

If they start next to you, ghostwalk away and start your most powerful nuke. Follow that with a lionshout, then by that time, they're right next to you. Follow up the lionshout with Ghost spear if you think they are low or soul spear then ghost spear.

They should be dead, if not, you are.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:51 am
by takolin
Nuke>SSS>GSM>SSS>GSM
If you teleport start with a nuke.

Fire FTW.

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:17 pm
by imporkchop
lite imbue combo would be better than ice if u want me to pick between the two.

if u stun him already there is no need to do ice nova again...if u stunn him maybe try to get another wall up urself.

if i vs a str glavier these are my moves...

phatom away/ lion shout/ice wall/soul spear soul and soul spear truth til u st unn the dude / stunned = start a nuke / ghost spear/ lion shout

if u get stunn..try phatom away and put up another ice wall= time to heal.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:32 am
by howlparrot
thanks for good advices,
i will take all ur suggestions into consideration. probably i will just forget the freeze and use lite with nova...

i do plan to nuke opponent after he gets stunned and then followed by a mars.

1.but do u think i can squeeze 2nd bk and 1st bk in within the 5sec stun and then do a mars after that?

2.and which skills u guys prefer to follow after the opponent get knocked off from ur mars?

-a lionshout?

-the throwing spear thing? ~i think this is best bet, wat u think? i may even have time to prepare a soul spear when he comes?

-a 1st bk nuke? ~fast enough before they get to u again??

-2nd bk nuke? ~sure it will be too slow but worth the damage?

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:07 am
by _Medea_
Mars should be your finisher.

Use it when you think the opponent has low enough health that it will finish him off. Otherwise use soul spears.

Why?

The cooldown for mars is after the attack. It's instantaneous hit, but takes awhile before you can get off another attack. This means your opponent is potting while you can't do anything.

For soul spears, the cool-down is distributed at both beginning (in form of charge up) and end. You can get better sustainable damage output from constant soul spears, but ghost spear gives that quick burst to finish off the opponent.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:42 am
by howlparrot
the animation at the charge of soul spear seems to "worth" the dmg of the skill and the after-use delay of ghost spear is the disadvantage
but if u really think about it with the most sustainable damage,
both ghostspear and soul hav approximate equal animation time and that probably is equal to the damage of sst/sss? and at higher lvls i think that lvl63 ghost spear mars (280%) does more damage then sst? although u really want to stun him, knockback is effective too.
because
i think takolin's battle pattern is quite right since that if u cannot stun it u better try to cancel his moves with mars straightt away because u could die from any move with an int character.

thx medea

anyway i really want people to answer my second post.

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:26 am
by LuCiDiTy
Nuke>Nuke>GSM
Nuke>SSS>GSM>Nuke
Seems to work good for me.