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Str heavy hybrid
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:26 am
by Blackchocob0
I know INT heavy hybrids can kick ass. Wasn't cuchulain INT heavy when he won that tourny? My question relates to the opposite: would a STR heavy hybrid be lethal as well?
I've noticed people like Nightbloom suggesting pure STR people get all possible INT additions on their gear, claiming it should add a surprising amount of damage.
So rather than ruin my second re-roll, what are everybody elses exeriences or thoughts on a STR hybrid?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:00 am
by oktaytheazer
i would think that int would help u us a pure str it would just mess up ur build.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:53 am
by Blackchocob0
Care to elaborate?
How come adding STR to an INT based char is beneficial, while adding INT to a STR based char is bad? Granted the HP benefit from adding STR to an INT is probably huge...but what about the added imbue damage for adding INT to a STR?
Sorry if that's confusing.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:39 am
by LTB
im lvl 73 str hybrid-very hibrid i have 14.6k hp and 8.3k mp(mp with no Mp+ on gear) and its basically a pure str glaiver with more dmg and less hp.
Thats it end of story, go for it.... i kick ass.... so can you....
and you get random pms from ppl sayin " how the f*** do you hit so harder than me.
Not sure how hybrid i am but i have like 300 str and 200 int on added stats.
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:03 pm
by Blackchocob0
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...well thanks for that. 2 STR and 1 INT every lvl, or what?
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:35 pm
by Alfred
LTB wrote:im lvl 73 str hybrid-very hibrid i have 14.6k hp and 8.3k mp(mp with no Mp+ on gear) and its basically a pure str glaiver with more dmg and less hp.
Thats it end of story, go for it.... i kick ass.... so can you....
and you get random pms from ppl sayin " how the f*** do you hit so harder than me.
Not sure how hybrid i am but i have like 300 str and 200 int on added stats.
would be helpfull if you checked your int and str stats without any gear on

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:45 pm
by PimpC
Blackchocob0 wrote:Care to elaborate?
How come adding STR to an INT based char is beneficial, while adding INT to a STR based char is bad? Granted the HP benefit from adding STR to an INT is probably huge...but what about the added imbue damage for adding INT to a STR?
Sorry if that's confusing.
adding int to a str char makes yur damage go high as hell.
ive only done it by adding int to my gear tho
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:47 pm
by Blackchocob0
Does it add to your phsyical attack power or magic? One would think to magic, but no one's said it clearly.
Will my normal phys attacks be more powerful from adding INT, or will my attacks only be more powerful during imbues?
Heh heh I'm not at home to test this stuff myself on like a new char.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:03 pm
by PimpC
only wit imbue
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:15 pm
by FK47
Avoid STR hybrid. Less HP, less physical defence. Maybe 5-10% more magical defence and any damage you get from the int won't replace the damage you would have got from criticals. Int is mainly for using nukes which you won't have.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:36 am
by Sc(+)pE16
I am with LTB on this one. I may not have as much health as pure str but I certainly do hit harder than him, and im not even fully farmed. A pure int came up to me when I was using my nukes for fun and said, " How are you doing so much damage?". " Arent you pure str?" I said yes and then killed him XD.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:10 am
by perducci!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:14 am
by LTB
Alfred wrote:LTB wrote:im lvl 73 str hybrid-very hibrid i have 14.6k hp and 8.3k mp(mp with no Mp+ on gear) and its basically a pure str glaiver with more dmg and less hp.
Thats it end of story, go for it.... i kick ass.... so can you....
and you get random pms from ppl sayin " how the f*** do you hit so harder than me.
Not sure how hybrid i am but i have like 300 str and 200 int on added stats.
would be helpfull if you checked your int and str stats without any gear on

im fully farmed lvl 73
by this lvl if you go around wearing white gear your a dumbass, so this is not a real choice for me.
I could take my gear off and show how "shity" my character is, but you dont war naked do ya?
The truth is, that andy build can rule ass if you know how to use it and if you have the gold.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:12 am
by Ell
LTB wrote:Alfred wrote:LTB wrote:im lvl 73 str hybrid-very hibrid i have 14.6k hp and 8.3k mp(mp with no Mp+ on gear) and its basically a pure str glaiver with more dmg and less hp.
Thats it end of story, go for it.... i kick ass.... so can you....
and you get random pms from ppl sayin " how the f*** do you hit so harder than me.
Not sure how hybrid i am but i have like 300 str and 200 int on added stats.
would be helpfull if you checked your int and str stats without any gear on

im fully farmed lvl 73
by this lvl if you go around wearing white gear your a dumbass, so this is not a real choice for me.
I could take my gear off and show how "shity" my character is, but you dont war naked do ya?
The truth is, that andy build can rule ass if you know how to use it and if you have the gold.
Dont sound so offended...Your balance naked would show how many stats points you put in for each and how hybrid you are. And since your so "kick ass" and STR hybrid is usually crapped upon, I'm sure Alfred as am I are curious to know how STR hybrid is working so well for you.
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:00 pm
by Blackchocob0
Sigh.....
Who to believe...two high lvls arguing. It's like one scientist is saying A and another scientist is saying B. You'd like to believe both of em, but you clearly can't.
Make up your minds please.

I'd just make a new char and test this myself, but I hardly have enough time to devote to Mugetsu_ as it is.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:39 pm
by lilchris
cold vs fire
pure vs hybrids
glavie vs blade
garment vs armor
notice something with those?
every1 will have there own opinion, at the end its ur choice that matters
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:37 pm
by PimpC
heres my suggestion: go pure str, then add tons of int to gears to hit very hard(if you have the money that is)
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:48 pm
by Lance
gear > build
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:15 am
by lilchris
Lance wrote:gear > build
pure int blader with chains no imbue
with sosun 64+7
good luck

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:43 am
by Alfred
Ell wrote:LTB wrote:Alfred wrote:LTB wrote:im lvl 73 str hybrid-very hibrid i have 14.6k hp and 8.3k mp(mp with no Mp+ on gear) and its basically a pure str glaiver with more dmg and less hp.
Thats it end of story, go for it.... i kick ass.... so can you....
and you get random pms from ppl sayin " how the f*** do you hit so harder than me.
Not sure how hybrid i am but i have like 300 str and 200 int on added stats.
would be helpfull if you checked your int and str stats without any gear on

im fully farmed lvl 73
by this lvl if you go around wearing white gear your a dumbass, so this is not a real choice for me.
I could take my gear off and show how "shity" my character is, but you dont war naked do ya?
The truth is, that andy build can rule ass if you know how to use it and if you have the gold.
Dont sound so offended...Your balance naked would show how many stats points you put in for each and how hybrid you are. And since your so "kick ass" and STR hybrid is usually crapped upon, I'm sure Alfred as am I are curious to know how STR hybrid is working so well for you.
yeah, I'm interesting to hear about different builds that people use
but I guess that was too much to ask...
don't go naked for me please, with that attitude I lost my interest
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:59 am
by ziddy1232
Im a lvl 54 hybrid str bowman.
I have 5 levels into int.
I hit harder than my lvl 56 pure str friend and also dont die as easy as an int build.
Thought i would stick in my bit.
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:26 am
by wildwolf111
Blackchocob0 wrote:Care to elaborate?
How come adding STR to an INT based char is beneficial, while adding INT to a STR based char is bad? Granted the HP benefit from adding STR to an INT is probably huge...but what about the added imbue damage for adding INT to a STR?
Sorry if that's confusing.
My personal view is this:
When you add STR to a INT based, you are going for the hp. So a INT based character won't die in just a few hits. The damage increase isn't much of a concern.
However, when you add INT to a STR based character, there is no point at all. The amount of mp added is pointless (a STR based character don't really care about mp, they don't consume a lot). On the damage, it don't increase but decrease. Since when the magic balance increase the physical balance decrease. For a STR based character, your base physical damage is definitely higher your base magic damage. So by adding INT your damage actrally drop.
That's y I think most people feel that adding INT to a STR based is not worth it.