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is bow better than nuker so plz reply i thnk it is, nukers can be killed easily in pvp or guild wars so is bow better or not and i know bow is good in pve. PLZ OPINIONS

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rofl, pick one weapon and just keep with that tree.

if u want int go nuker.. if u want bow str go bow, but DO NOT use a bow on an int based character

not true, the bow is a int weapon. I wouldnt go pure, unless you also want to be a nuker, maybe hybrid INT.

STR Bow is one of the worst builds in my opinion.

As far as your question, I think it would depend on the bow. A fully farmed lvl70 nuker is pretty strong, but an equally strong bow user with a mag balance around 95% could match the nuker for damage. Maybe not a off the shelf bow, but you get a SOM with some pluses you should be a close competitor. That would be a PVP I'd like to watch.

But with your Mag balance that high anyway, you could actualy be both bow and nuke IMO, that might be a pretty good build

Dempster wrote:if u want int go nuker.. if u want bow str go bow, but DO NOT use a bow on an int based character

I'm using one on my nuker build till I get my nukes at lvl 30(actually going to keep it till lvl32) then i'm switching to sword/shield and delvl my bow skills(which are few and only lvl 17)

If I'm correct (could be wrong on this) bow has a high crit which would make it better suited for a strengh build.I think it even has a skill that gives a + to crit. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

my wife is currently building a pure str character and she's using a bow for farming,( she's lvl 15 ). She was planning on switching to glavie but she likes the bow so much I think she is going to stay with bow. I'll let you know how it works out for her after she gains some levels.

Onuon wrote:not true, the bow is a int weapon. I wouldnt go pure, unless you also want to be a nuker, maybe hybrid INT.

STR Bow is one of the worst builds in my opinion.

As far as your question, I think it would depend on the bow. A fully farmed lvl70 nuker is pretty strong, but an equally strong bow user with a mag balance around 95% could match the nuker for damage. Maybe not a off the shelf bow, but you get a SOM with some pluses you should be a close competitor. That would be a PVP I'd like to watch.

But with your Mag balance that high anyway, you could actualy be both bow and nuke IMO, that might be a pretty good build

bow damage depends on the crit and not magical attack, look at the bow skill tree itself, they have additional crit bonus and crit damage comes from physical attack so you need to be full str.

any char which is full farmed is strong the only make difference is their gear and your skills in pvp, guild war, job war, etc

who ever said to use bow as an int based char is pretty dumb... if your goin pure int or int based then use sword/spear..

why the hell would u use a bow if ur int based.. if your a nuker you already have far ranged attacks .. so why use a bow ?? id be way better to use spear for more damage or sword/shield for more defence

Onuon wrote:not true, the bow is a int weapon. I wouldnt go pure, unless you also want to be a nuker, maybe hybrid INT.

STR Bow is one of the worst builds in my opinion.

As far as your question, I think it would depend on the bow. A fully farmed lvl70 nuker is pretty strong, but an equally strong bow user with a mag balance around 95% could match the nuker for damage. Maybe not a off the shelf bow, but you get a SOM with some pluses you should be a close competitor. That would be a PVP I'd like to watch.

But with your Mag balance that high anyway, you could actualy be both bow and nuke IMO, that might be a pretty good build

thats just stupid. BOWS ARE USED FOR THE HIGH CRIT! they have the highest crit of all the weapons, and like 4agze said, the skills give crit boosts!
if u have a high physical attack power, then the crit will hit more
bow is NOT AN INT WEAPON! mainly because of the fact that if its int, then u would be using long range attacks that are weaker than nukes, so say the nuke does 2500 damage and your little strong bow does 1500-its simple logic, either be pure str with a bow and be stronger with crits or go pure int with spear and hit hard with nukes, cuz 1-2 nukes the the mob is DEAD!, theres no time for your petty bow skills

if it aint an int wep wat exactly is it?

BlazenDynamo wrote:why the hell would u use a bow if ur int based.. if your a nuker you already have far ranged attacks

ROFL if you call that distance "far range"

San wrote:

Onuon wrote:not true, the bow is a int weapon. I wouldnt go pure, unless you also want to be a nuker, maybe hybrid INT.

STR Bow is one of the worst builds in my opinion.

As far as your question, I think it would depend on the bow. A fully farmed lvl70 nuker is pretty strong, but an equally strong bow user with a mag balance around 95% could match the nuker for damage. Maybe not a off the shelf bow, but you get a SOM with some pluses you should be a close competitor. That would be a PVP I'd like to watch.

But with your Mag balance that high anyway, you could actualy be both bow and nuke IMO, that might be a pretty good build

thats just stupid. BOWS ARE USED FOR THE HIGH CRIT! they have the highest crit of all the weapons, and like 4agze said, the skills give crit boosts!
if u have a high physical attack power, then the crit will hit more
bow is NOT AN INT WEAPON! mainly because of the fact that if its int, then u would be using long range attacks that are weaker than nukes, so say the nuke does 2500 damage and your little strong bow does 1500-its simple logic, either be pure str with a bow and be stronger with crits or go pure int with spear and hit hard with nukes, cuz 1-2 nukes the the mob is DEAD!, theres no time for your petty bow skills

int bow skills does damages that are comparable to nukes because of the imbue. Int bow's damges do less damage than a full nuke (like 300-400 dmg) but imo the range of the bow makes up for more that.
Bow's dont have the highest crit of all weapons, they just have the anti-devil bow skill series that increase the chances of striking a critical hit.

thats crap bow is int weapon people get int because of the magic damage is higher ? blade has higher magic attack y not blader get int lmao.
nuker are c rappy full str bow are better than nuker at least u can own them since u crit a lot and they can own u but theres no way they can run away from u unlike blader and glave they cant chase them.with demon series ur range + 4 m

int bow and int nuker are good at playing sissy ... run and run if u do not wish to be a sissy get full str bow since some pro bow users ownz

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Ell what he's trying to say is, bow users are shit and die to nukers in 2 hits.

what im trying to said is int nuker sure own int archer anyway int archer are useleSS

XxpeddyxX wrote:Ell what he's trying to say is, bow users are shit and die to nukers in 2 hits.

eh? pure str/bow/fire can 1-2 hit a full int too. so they both suck? rofl.

Common knowledge is that a sword or spear nuker is "better" than an archer. Everyone says so ...

Personally I think its just that no one knows how to build a proper archer yet. I really suspect that archers are meant to be some sort of high int hybrid. An int bow can hit almost as hard as a regular nuker but from a farther distance. The nukes bring you in much closer than a bow does ... fire nukes hit from sort of far away, cold nukes are closer, and lightning nukes bring you almost right on top of the target. You have to play an archer differently than a regular nuker ... archers are definitely meant for "hit and run" attacks.

Actually I have two archers, one is an int bow and the other is a str bow.

The int bow is also a nuker and more fun to play. However I don't use her to pvp cape fight at all. She is meant for group fights and I am partnered with a pure str blader who tanks for me when needed. I in turn help him out with a finishing blow when he ends up in a "pot war" with someone. He tanks monsters with physical attacks ... I can tank the ones with magic attacks that give him problems. I one and two hit monsters just like regular nukers do but I typically can get the kill before the monsters even hit me once unlike regular nukers that have to attack closer to their target.

The str bow character does fine pvp in cape fights. If the int bow char I have fails to work out I can always fall back to this char and go the more typical route for archers. Btw I use the anti-devil bow series on the str char but use berserker arrow in its place on the int char. The multi arrow attacks are really important on both chars and always, always imbue!

I have no real conclusions to make yet about this situation though because the int bow is only 42 and the str bow charaction is only 30, except that it is fun to be doing something a bit different than most people. Perhaps when I get both to 70 or 80 then I will know more.

And one final thought ... this game isn't even finished yet ... The supposed final cap of 150 is a LONG ways away. So making final judgements on what is the "best" build is foolish. The thing to do is find the build you love the most and work out how best to play it.

^Thanks for your insight Yamataka. ^___^

From my perspective, as a pure STR archer, I think this build sucks at killing. I have a lvl 42 +6 bow and I can't even 1-hit kill the highest white-name mobs without a crit hit. I get KS'ed by nukers all the time and they end up getting most of the exp. The main problem with archers is that our skills take longer than others to launch and the damage can be lame. To be a good archer you need a bow with very high crit which means you need to be uber rich to afford one or make one through alchemy. If you want to lvl up fast then go with nuker, but I only stick with bow because there's not much of them around (every other player is a nuker and that tells you what the general opinion is on who's better) and I love being archer for some reason. I also have hope that maybe in the future updates they will enable us archers to be more powerful.

yamataka wrote:Personally I think its just that no one knows how to build a proper archer yet. I really suspect that archers are meant to be some sort of high int hybrid. An int bow can hit almost as hard as a regular nuker but from a farther distance. The nukes bring you in much closer than a bow does ... fire nukes hit from sort of far away, cold nukes are closer, and lightning nukes bring you almost right on top of the target. You have to play an archer differently than a regular nuker ... archers are definitely meant for "hit and run" attacks.

I'm a str archer (stuck at lvl 39 for now...not going to be playing for a while), but I've been thinking that for a some time now. I have a sneaking suspicion that an int archer's 4-3-2 arrow combo with a maxed imbue would be strong enough to kill just about anything in less than a couple seconds.

The general consensus has been that weapon skills affect and are affected by the STR stat only. If that's the case, each arrow from the arrow combo should land a full imbue's worth of damage, right? Getting smacked with seven full fully imbued weapon hits in such a short amount of time should wreck havoc on ANY build. Of course, there could be something that I'm missing in this equation. Feel free to let me know.

Alas, I've been playing on and off for months, and my first character is still only at 39, so I've been reluctant to try this out. Is anyone else hard core enough to give it a go?

ah now that you have edited i actually have a clue wtf you are talking about. I thought you were saying should you have two weapon trees.


Bows are able to shoot things that are running away, which is pretty useful, but the dmg they do is not great. INT's can end a battle pretty quick, but often they are the one dead. Once again, personal choice.

i tried a full int before but it die easier than i expected.
other characters like glavie .if u are lvl 35 for example. u only had 1.5 k hp all they need to do is to use their range skill and then half of ur health bar is gone.and glavie's damage is the strongest among full str.if they crit in 1 soul series u are dead.

mushrooms wrote:^Thanks for your insight Yamataka. ^___^

From my perspective, as a pure STR archer, I think this build sucks at killing. I have a lvl 42 +6 bow and I can't even 1-hit kill the highest white-name mobs without a crit hit. I get KS'ed by nukers all the time and they end up getting most of the exp. The main problem with archers is that our skills take longer than others to launch and the damage can be lame. To be a good archer you need a bow with very high crit which means you need to be uber rich to afford one or make one through alchemy. If you want to lvl up fast then go with nuker, but I only stick with bow because there's not much of them around (every other player is a nuker and that tells you what the general opinion is on who's better) and I love being archer for some reason. I also have hope that maybe in the future updates they will enable us archers to be more powerful.

just to let u know berserker series take shorter time to lauch than anti devil bow.try it urself if u do not believe me.

X20AFreedom wrote:i tried a full int before but it die easier than i expected.
other characters like glavie .if u are lvl 35 for example. u only had 1.5 k hp all they need to do is to use their range skill and then half of ur health bar is gone.and glavie's damage is the strongest among full str.if they crit in 1 soul series u are dead.

Dont say u have tested out an int char. To what lvl? 17?
Everything u say is TOTALLY wrong. Leave the skill forum newb.

to make it simple,

full str bow - >12k hp, anti devil bow book 3 >5k dmg and crits >10k

full int bow - >6k hp, anti devil bow book 3 >5k dmg and crits <8k

i'll let you choose..

a fully farmed str bow can 1 hit kill any int with full armor easily with >10k dmg only if the crit is successful.

im building a pure int bow..now is lvl 26 using 24 sos bow+3..wearing armour..
i think that int bow would not make less damage than pure str bow..
pure str bow based on cri to kill ppl..but pure int bow has its high and constand damage to kill..
By bow far ranged and maxed phantom walk..pure int bow is a nice build to play i think..
PS i hv a int heavy hybrid sworder lvl 63 now..i feel that the bow skill with imbue will be more or less same wif one nuke..but dun forget the combo arrow which a nuker dun hv

ilsyk wrote:im building a pure int bow..now is lvl 26 using 24 sos bow+3..wearing armour..
i think that int bow would not make less damage than pure str bow..
pure str bow based on cri to kill ppl..but pure int bow has its high and constand damage to kill..
By bow far ranged and maxed phantom walk..pure int bow is a nice build to play i think..
PS i hv a int heavy hybrid sworder lvl 63 now..i feel that the bow skill with imbue will be more or less same wif one nuke..but dun forget the combo arrow which a nuker dun hv

If it isn't too much trouble, when you get 3 arrow combo, could you give us a comparison of the damage your imbued 3-2 arrow combos gives and that of the fire nuke of the equivolent level?

W3GAN wrote:Everything u say is TOTALLY wrong. Leave the skill forum newb.

+100

It depends on how you use the build. If you're an archer who stands around trying to tank everything, you have the wrong build. Archer is, from my experience, the biggest damage dealer in the STR build class when you take crits/eagle/devil arrow into account. 2-3 hits then grasswalk and hit again is the method I use.