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Hawk + Sword. Good? Bad? Ugly?

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 8:13 pm
by LuV3r8o1
Is the hawk worth getting for a swordsman?
I know i'll need a bow to summon it, that's not a problem. And the extra attack rating couldn't hurt.

If you've tried this, i'd like to know how you felt about it.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:40 pm
by zexy
Yeah its worth it.

How it looks is up to you to decide, we cant all have the same taste o.0

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:22 am
by 0Kelvin
I switched from bow to sword at level 22 so I've got a level 5 hawk (increases attack rating by 14) that I always summon when I'm grinding. I haven't really compared how I go without it, but I figure every little bit helps. As for looks, my pets match becaue they're both white. Now all I need is a white bunny and I'll be set. :D

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:02 pm
by wildwolf111
Hawk don't work on sword.
It requires a bow to use the skill.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:21 pm
by 0Kelvin
Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:42 pm
by oktaytheazer
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.


may b it helps on a bow more may b not just but dats ok de real question is does it help ne ? lol

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:04 pm
by Ell
Some nukers get the hawk because magical damage(which is what a nuker deals) varies greatly with each attack. So the hawk helps you deal your highest possible damage.

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:20 pm
by LuV3r8o1
thx guys!

I'm going for the hawk! :) 8)

Now i just need to get iSRO working with kSRO again. :banghead:

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:17 am
by phoeniXofury
personally, i would rather stick the points (because you have a 300 mastery cap) into another skill tree (ex. ice) for another nuke.
because, unless you lvl pacheon to 70 and get the blue hawk, IMHO, its not worth it. 19 AR hardly does too much difference when you have 200-300 something on your weapon, right?
thats just my opinion though.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:17 am
by LuV3r8o1
I think i'm gonna skip over ice nuke. It doesn't do as much damage as fire and lit.

Question to the people that use hawk + sword...should I get blue hawk or black hawk? I have a wolf, so if I get the black hawk, it'll be like 2 pets. BUT the blue hawk gives the attack rating increase. :?

AHHH!! The choices!!! :banghead:

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:08 am
by Penguin13
Um, Don't get the hawk that does damage, because that defeats the purpose of getting a hawk (your nukes should be killing mobs in 1-2 hits anyway, and you need the AR increase.)

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:07 am
by Troo
It is deffinitally worth-it at lower lvls but at higher lvls:
- you might get in trouble with masteries..
- you can use alchemy to pimp up your ar, becomes less 'worth-it

I dunno.. i'd say if you got pacheon already to 7 because you've farmed at the bandit den you might as well get it for 10.

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:53 am
by zexy
You wont notice a difference with the hawk + pacheon passive before lv 60+ where you start to deal massive damage ;)

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:55 pm
by wildwolf111
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:17 pm
by Ell
wildwolf111 wrote:
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???


Actually it is quite useful and i know many people who do this. And almost every single high level player uses a shield to add fire shield. It can only help you right? How could it be not useful?

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:45 am
by zexy
wildwolf111 wrote:
0Kelvin wrote:Yeah it does. You only need a bow to summon it, then you can switch back to sword. Trust me, I do it all the time.

Erm... Bring a bow just for summoning a lvl 1 hawk... How useful is that???


Im sure you can spare a slot for it.

And how high you choose to level the hawk is up to you.

I carried a shield in my inventory since lv 50 (now instead of pills), to make myself immune.

Other people a bow to increase overall damage :P

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:09 pm
by Dempster
ive seen many successful glaive chars with the bow skills up to 54 for the blue hawk, but i think its ugly XD

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:23 pm
by imporkchop
ur gonna run outta mastery lvl.

i assume u probly gettin heuskal passive for hp boost..

right now @ lvl 70 cap u probly spare some mastery for it . when cap rises ur gonna run out and hve to delvl it.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:38 am
by muhkuh
well in theory the plus AR from white or blue hawk is a fine thing.
i was a huge fan of this once. Till i found out for myself that you dont benefit that much from it as you should.

as 6X pure int nuker i thought it would be nice to have some additional AR so i skilled pacheon up to 54 to get the blue hawk and the passive.

Additonally i also tested the Scroll from Event to gain 4XX Hit Ratio.
Sadly, after hours of grinding i realize that there was absolutely no difference compared to killing with no Hawk & Scroll and Hit Ratio of 29X. Hard to believe but true.