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BOW- Cold Or Fire?
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:13 am
by Skull Rider
I started a new account pure str bow and im lvl 14, i trained fire (lvl 8 now) because people say fire is the best for bow, but most people that i see that use bow use cold as their main skill instead of fire. Should i keep training fire or should i make cold my main skill?
Dont say stuff like well this is good for pvp and this isnt, just say which one would u rather choose.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:56 am
by Pake1
I used fire from 1-67. Its great for both pvp and pve.
Cold is great for pve and pvp only if you dont plan to play to the higher lvls, where there is ice immune.
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:51 pm
by zexy
There's missing the option "both"
That "everyone is immune at the cap" is bullshit.
3/4 of the 64+ i duel is not immune.
And if youre reaseonable enough to keep a open mastery gap, getting both imbues should be the smallest problem
Its also fun to experiment around with, see what you like the best at higher lvls.
Remember its just a game, youre supposed to have fun, not take everything so seriously

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:30 am
by timtam
IMO, fire is better than cold... damage is better later than freeze because i think higher levels have resistance.
But don't base yur character on what other people think, do whatever you feel. Its a game, have fun and dont take it seriously.
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:47 am
by Pake1
I didn't say everyone is immune, I'm just saying its more evident in the higher lvls anyway.
Yes, and I'll agree with you that 3/4s of the 60+ are not ice immune, the low 1/4 are most likely SOS'ed out any way.
Both cold and fire are fun imbues
Fire Kills faster
Cold freezes, saves you pots.
You decide.
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:27 am
by Hemlock
currently i use fire because it kills faster and saves me arrows, altho i'd rather use cold cos i like the element better.

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 5:22 pm
by zexy
For grinding i use fire, since it kills faster.
Archers already have range and doesnt really use a lot of hp pots when grinding, so ice is not that nessesary.
However for pvp i always have ice imbue ready. If i encounter someone thats immune it takes me less than a second to switch the icons in the quickslot, so im hitting with fire arrows instead
And no worries pake, wasnt referring to you.
Just in general on this forum, i hear so much talk about "everyone is immune"

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:08 pm
by oktaytheazer
soz i g2 say dis cose im pure str cold bow. peps shat so much shit about ice beening de worst imbue.. wtf i got both fire and ice i used fire for a bit and den tought wtf dis imbue is shit ! for me cose i get hit more. for example dere is a mob for away from me i atack it it runs up 2 me nad starts to hit me and den only dies but wid ICE i hit de monster and shoot shoot shoot till it runs up 2 me and b4 it even hits me it dies ! so i save my hp's. IN PVP. i dunno y ice but here goes.. ok in pvp when u atack some1 wid fire and dey have iniversal pills it will hill dem and it wont do nemore damage so ull jsut continue on fighting and de fire wont b doin ne damage nemore.. wid ICE if u shoot an enemy dey freez for about 0.5sec but it still holds dem away from u so u can live for 0.5 sec longer.. OVERALL ICE IS BETTER DEN DE DANG FIRE !!!!!!!!! i dont realy care wat kinda a shitty fings peps say about ice but fire is to commen and light aswell.. i even seen some glaives wid ice.. hows dat huh HUH ???????
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:27 pm
by zexy
oktaytheazer wrote:soz i g2 say dis cose im pure str cold bow. peps shat so much shit about ice beening de worst imbue.. wtf i got both fire and ice i used fire for a bit and den tought wtf dis imbue is shit ! for me cose i get hit more. for example dere is a mob for away from me i atack it it runs up 2 me nad starts to hit me and den only dies but wid ICE i hit de monster and shoot shoot shoot till it runs up 2 me and b4 it even hits me it dies ! so i save my hp's. IN PVP. i dunno y ice but here goes.. ok in pvp when u atack some1 wid fire and dey have iniversal pills it will hill dem and it wont do nemore damage so ull jsut continue on fighting and de fire wont b doin ne damage nemore.. wid ICE if u shoot an enemy dey freez for about 0.5sec but it still holds dem away from u so u can live for 0.5 sec longer.. OVERALL ICE IS BETTER DEN DE DANG FIRE !!!!!!!!! i dont realy care wat kinda a shitty fings peps say about ice but fire is to commen and light aswell.. i even seen some glaives wid ice.. hows dat huh HUH ???????
The damage difference from fire - ice, is not that big until you reach higher levels.
I can see youre only lv 42 at the moment, so no wonder you cant see the difference. At 64+ you will
But you know, people should use what they like.
However imo ice is not overall better. True it saves you pots, but fire will make you grind faster. And unless youre an uber weaksauce of an archer its not needed for grinding. You already have 20m+ range.
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:36 am
by oktaytheazer
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:38 am
by oktaytheazer
dang i h8 silkroad aswell now..

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:37 pm
by hellsharpt
fire > cold. I was ice until the 50's on my archer. The best thing I ever did was delevel it.
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:35 pm
by Dempster
zexy wrote:There's missing the option "both"
That "everyone is immune at the cap" is bullshit.
3/4 of the 64+ i duel is not immune.
And if youre reaseonable enough to keep a open mastery gap, getting both imbues should be the smallest problem

Its also fun to experiment around with, see what you like the best at higher lvls.
Remember its just a game, youre supposed to have fun, not take everything so seriously

the shield skill prevents 78% reduce meaning you only need a total of 22 % on your jewelry. If someone at lvl 70 is not imune he shuold be burned alive.
Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:46 pm
by ShadowFang88
so ice is weaker but has the probability of freezing and the chance that you might kill the mob b4 it reaches u
BUT! fire is stronger, and if it hits harder on mobs, then you could also kill it b4 it reaches u
but fire is always good in PvP
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:05 am
by zexy
ShadowFang88 wrote:so ice is weaker but has the probability of freezing and the chance that you might kill the mob b4 it reaches u
BUT! fire is stronger, and if it hits harder on mobs, then you could also kill it b4 it reaches u
but fire is always good in PvP
Negative
I say both imbues ftw.
Frostbite in pvp is worth gold for an archer. Dont worry about damage, anti devil crits will get your opponent sooner or later.
And if you encounter somebody who's immune like i stated above it takes less than a splitsecond to switch imbues in the quickslot.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:05 am
by IguanaRampage
both definitely.
However, when in doubt invest sp in fire I guess... because of frost immunity nowadays and fire helps one train faster, though you may take more dmg.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:06 am
by AdamantWinds
it'd be nice to go both, but i think that lightning mastery is almost a definite requirement because of grass walk. therefore, that only leaves enough for one other element mastery. since most archers are pure str, fire seems to be better in terms of buffs. the physical damage boost and magical defense help out. then again, ice has freezing, which is definitely helpful. also, when your archer is pure str and relies on crits and str damage, does the imbue make a significant difference? i'm thinking about starting a bow character, so it'd be nice to hear some opinions.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:28 am
by Stress
i think cold bow is the best. MOnsters who don't attack from range won't even get to u if you're far enough. Besides, in PvP freezing or even frostbiting an opponent is annoying even if he uses pills. For example using the cold wave arrest books with bow is excellent, because on higher levels, u freeze them instantly(believe me i've tried it...

)So that's why cold bow is the best.
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:44 am
by lilchris
ice vs fire, will alwayz be threads bout this lol
my opinion i love ice, its fun freezing mobs and not being touched
and also ppl who are not immune, best times is when they forget pills
but at 55 i guess since im pure str, the damage diff with imbue isnt so big.
im sure int will see a big diff between ice and fire imbue.
just go with w/e your having the most fun with.
if you dont like it cuz of pvp, just switch it. thats why jm was nice enough to give us curse hearts and skill thing on item mall
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:51 am
by AdamantWinds
what about the fire buffs that especially benefit pure str?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:02 am
by phresh
Fire is definitely stronger but both have their advantages. If you're only doing 2 skills (weapon & fire) it's not a big deal to add a third, you might end up having to farm some SP to get them all way up but 3 skill trees is pretty normal, I'm doing 4, argh. But yeah I'm with zexy -> both imbues and just switch em as needed. Personally I have one of my F-bars setup for PvE and one for PvP.. works out imo.
-phresh
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:33 pm
by oktaytheazer
i got 5 trees 4 forces and a bow skills so i cant realy b bothered to get both of de embues

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:46 pm
by Dempster
AdamantWinds wrote:what about the fire buffs that especially benefit pure str?
Very, very good point. for a str based char you
NEED those buffs, and the passive.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:46 pm
by EwwBabel
well my newb account is a ice/force archer

, but thats only cause this account's purpose is for helping guildmates and stuff -.-
still very fun to use though
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:46 pm
by zexy
Dempster wrote:AdamantWinds wrote:what about the fire buffs that especially benefit pure str?
Very, very good point. for a str based char you
NEED those buffs, and the passive.
Every good sro player has ALL buffs in the game.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:47 am
by 1llu51on
Get both fire and ice imbues.
Because not everyone is immune to status ailments, first you try using cold, if they're immune, switch to fire to deal better damage. If they can be freezed, it's your advantage. That's the trick.
Imbue
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:53 pm
by migue516
Just a question... Why not to go light?...
I can see that every NPC thief Archer in the game is light. Must be a reson for it. Pls just want the know why light is not an option as I can see in this forum.