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Q. The Fire Force Masteries... Should I Use Them All?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:32 am
by Dainte
Hello, i have a lvl 20 pure STR Fire Glaive Char and was wanting to know if i should, or should not use all of the fire force masteries
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:41 am
by Twisted
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:25 pm
by Sin
Yes, the Fire Force tree has many good skills a pure str character should have. Flame Body, Fire Shield, Imbue, magic buffs and passive for example can help out a lot.
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:27 pm
by AoENuker
Sin wrote:Flame Body, Fire Shield, Imbue, magic buffs and passive
fire shield wouldn't help a str glaiver.
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:13 pm
by isight
AoENuker wrote:Sin wrote:Flame Body, Fire Shield, Imbue, magic buffs and passive
fire shield wouldn't help a str glaiver.
Yeah i mean being immune to cold would never help a str glaiver...
are you stupid?
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:46 pm
by Dainte
so what youre saying is fire shield is a must have bcus of it making you immune to cold? lol im gunna feel stupid saying this but i thought u had to posses a shield for that skill to take effect!
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:03 pm
by Sin
Switch to shield, use skill, and switch back. Easy.
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:09 pm
by AoENuker
fire shield doesn't mean ur immune to cold... it just reduces the effect that the imbues do.
and that switching to shield, use skill, and switch to glaive doesn't work...
ive tried it and the skill goes away once you take off the shield. you give lousy advice
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:27 pm
by Sin
AoENuker wrote:fire shield doesn't mean ur immune to cold... it just reduces the effect that the imbues do.
and that switching to shield, use skill, and switch to glaive doesn't work...
ive tried it and the skill goes away once you take off the shield. you give lousy advice
Fire Shield is actually a percentage reduction of status effects, which can help get you immunity to cold, along with jewelry.
I just now switched to a shield, activated the skill, switched back to a glaive, and guess what? The skill was still active. Please check your information before you go and tell somebody they give lousy advice. GG.
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:38 pm
by AoENuker
Fire Shield is actually a percentage reduction of status effects, which can help get you immunity to cold, along with jewelry.
i just said that. and even if the skill does remain. have you seen any chance? if some1 used fire on you? post a screen shot of you with fire shield, and a glaive on, with burn, and one without, with burn.
i wanna see this...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 11:38 pm
by isight
You truly are an idiot arn't you. how do you think glaivers get immune to cold. Watch any good capped glaiver and they will be cold immune, explain how they do this with fire sheild...
Dainte: Fire sheild gives a % reduction in all status. That plus a % immunity blue you can put on jewlery can make you immune to cold/burn/shock etc
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:15 am
by IguanaRampage
AoENuker wrote:Fire Shield is actually a percentage reduction of status effects, which can help get you immunity to cold, along with jewelry.
i just said that. and even if the skill does remain. have you seen any chance? if some1 used fire on you? post a screen shot of you with fire shield, and a glaive on, with burn, and one without, with burn.
i wanna see this...
The fire shield effect does stay on even if you un-equip the shield
. isight is right.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:38 pm
by Chaud
Last I played the shield switch worked. Being immune to all status effects ftw.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:48 pm
by AoENuker
yeah but guess what ...
would you rather get 60+ bicheon, for fire shield or cold buffs? geting bicheon just for fire shield is a real wats eof mastery.
i would suggest cold for the buffs.
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:07 pm
by isight
Fire sheild is in the fire mastery, please stop filling all the noobs heads with bs, your confusing people
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:28 pm
by AoENuker
lmao ... woops my bad.
i thought fire shield was in bicheon skill tree lol, im trippin.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:51 pm
by billgeta
AoENuker wrote:fire shield doesn't mean ur immune to cold... it just reduces the effect that the imbues do.
and that switching to shield, use skill, and switch to glaive doesn't work...
ive tried it and the skill goes away once you take off the shield. you give lousy advice
wtf....are we playin the same game??? fire shield WORKS when u switch to shield and switch bck to glaive......it works for me and everyone else.....
you give noob comments, noob.
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:04 pm
by matronyx
........omg.
I'm laughing so hard right now..... its like: "I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT".
Yeh fire shield is great. Im lvl 46 now and immune to poison,fire,zombie.
When I start fighting ishades and white face spiders I worry about ice immunity.
As a nuker however the phys related skills aren't not that unnecessary especially if you're sp starved. The phys boosting skills in fire tree are:
Flame Body series (phys dmg temp buff)
Flame Devil force (phys dmg passive)
Combined you get a 12% phys dmg boost at lvl 52.
Maxing the skills at 64 gives you 13% boost.
As a str build you might not need firewall either since you are stationary when its activated.
a bit off topic...
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:39 am
by ganre
Are the immune affects on various pieces of eq and fire shield additive, or multiplicitive?
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:41 am
by Drachenklaue
Is there any chance that they will fix this fire shield skill?
I don't think that it was supposed to work for characters using two-handed weapons.
It would suck when you have to delevel the skill if they fix it because it will become useless.