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More Efficient STR Archer Build

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:12 am
by ginny
I am working on a STR Archer and am trying to choose trees that have some synergy.

Issue #1 - Grass Walk

This skill seems very important but it is driving me bonkers that this is the only Lightning skill I have to take. If it were not for this, I would not take lightning at all. Is there anything else in Lightning that is very useful to STR Archers?

Issue #2 - Build

How does this look and can anyone make it better? Any way to squeeze out some more damage? Bow damage is extraordinarily unimpressive :O

FIRE: Fire Force (MAX); Flame Body (MAX); Flame Devil Force (MAX)

LIGHTNING: Wind Walk (MAX)

PACHEON: Everything (MAX) Except Autumn and the 2nd book for Black Hawk (just 1 to get to blue hawk)

TOTAL: 155,708 SP: I wish I could get it down somewhat, but this seems a pretty no frills build.

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:17 pm
by FK47
Get passives. Also, the buffs in lightning may prove useful... the bow has a higher magic attack than sword, so it may contribute a noticeable bit to your damage output. Don't quote me on that though.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:50 pm
by icedrevolution
im working on one right now, lvl 51, i did farm, and this is what i have

Pacheon lvl 47:
Anti Devil Bow Wave lvl 9
3 Arrow combo lvl 3
White hawk summon lvl 12(No need to get the black hawk, save up for the blue)
Bloody soul arrow lvl 3 (dont need the autumn wind series)
Demon arrow lvl1
Strong bow-Spirit lvl 9
mind concentration 4

Fire lvl 47:
Poison fire force lvl2
Flame body-Power lvl 3
Divine fire protection lvl 6
Flame devil force lvl 4

Lightning lvl 47: (need lightning because you want the concetration and grasswalk)
Flow-Piercing force lvl 3
Grass walk-Flow lvl 12
Ghost walk-phantom lvl 6
Concentration-2nd lvl 2
Heaven's Force lvl 4

Cold lvl 47:
Soft guard of ice lvl 9
Cold Armor lvl 4

No force, this build is very strong as long as you have sos GARMENTS and weapons. Trust me, at lvl 47 i was beating lvl 52 bladers and glaviers.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:00 pm
by hellsharpt
It's nice to have all the bow skills but I'd recommend picking either strong bow or berserker arrow not both.

As for lightning, the passive, must piercing, and perhaps concentration are helpful. If you get int on your gear your magic bal will increase and not affect your phys balance. This will increase your damage.

The skill points seem high though are you maxing black hawk? you only need 1 in it. blue hawk I just put 1 into as well. Also demon soul (the distance).... not so useful in my opinion.

archer

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:01 am
by icedrevolution
i am not going to be getting any of the black hawk, mainly becuase i dont see any use for it, it is just for damage and i have a wolf for that. I am just going straight to the blue hawk. I think that the demon soul arrow is needed only because we as archers dont pack much of a punch, so when you are off lvling your char against higher lvl mobs its best to be able to attck from a distance mainly because you wont take as much damage, it will take longer for the mob to run to get to you and engage you. This is purely my opinion. As for skill points, yea it takes quite a few skill points but if you are worried about that at all just do 4 lvl gap, because you will then gain enough skill points to lvl up your skills each time you lvl up.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:29 am
by ginny
Thank you for the replies.

Coming up on level 30 and the damage is absolutely atrocious!

Is there another direction I can go to squeeze out some more damage PvE? (even lightning pierce doesn't seem to make too much difference, a little maybe).

Since I enjoy PvE mainly, maybe I should scrap fire and go cold? But then my damage would be even less. Ick, not sure how to make this work better.

EDIT: honestly the only advice I keep hearing in game is to get sos +zillion, +zillion to high crit and a long list of 'uber eq.'

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:54 am
by Pake1
I personally stopped lvling strong bow. I'd rather hit with an anti-devi + a zerk arrow instead of 1 SB that capable of getting blocked.

I stopped lvling demon arrow at about 3.8m, i think book3 maxed. While small things do matter in this game, my sp doesn't go well with adding an extra 0.6 meters of distance.

Same with hellsharpt I just left the Blue Hawk at lvl 1, the extra 2 attack rating points can be off-setted by alchemy, gear, or just not caring for 2 points.

But me I just did lots of Sp-friendly tweaking on my part in rder to lvl up to 70 w/0 gap. Leaving the arrow passive at 5 instead of 6.

Basically when you think about your build conisider if that extra 1 or 2 points is really worth the sp farmed.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:51 pm
by hellsharpt
you have to get 1 in black hawk and all of the white to get blue.

ginny, you want gear with as much strength AND int as possible. I'm talking about at least 2 str on EVERY peice of gear in cluding your weapon. Remember every 3 str or int is like another level.

Also your bow is the single most important piece of equipment you will use. Get a really good one with 8+ crit and +3, an sos if you can afford it. You also want the physical damage % to be good as well as the physical reinforce %.

ensure you have flame body wisdom cast and have the passive as high as you can. Put up the must piercing flow buff, imbue your weapon (don't use cold), hit anti devil then arrow combo. If you are still having trouble killing mobs of your level then something is very wrong.

and what server are you on?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:17 pm
by ginny
Thank you for the suggestions.

hellsharpt wrote:you want gear with as much strength AND int as possible. I'm talking about at least 2 str on EVERY peice of gear in cluding your weapon...Get a really good one [bow] with 8+ crit and +3, an sos if you can afford it. You also want the physical damage % to be good as well as the physical reinforce %.


Yes, I imagine this is the problem. I do not have good equipment and I certainly do not have a good bow. Though, I doubt I ever will as I play pretty casually. Unless I get really lucky and start looting good items, but that is pretty unlikely :O

I am on Olympus.

So I really have two issues as an archer:

1. Lack of equipment (this will never go away, I just do not play enough to make anywhere near the money necessary). This does not bother me much, though I imagine it should :)

2. This worries me a lot though! High SP Requirements ;even with just basic offense oriented skills and no defense I am at 160k SP. That will not allow fast leveling with 0 gap. I am probably unusual in that I think leveling is painful enough at 0 gap and the thought of increasing it to 4 or 5 just to keep up with the basics is horrifying :O

FIRE: Fire Force(MAX); Flame Body(MAX); Flame Devil Force(MAX)
LIGHTNING: Wind Walk(MAX); Pierce(MAX)
PACHEON: Everything(MAX) Except Autumn and Black/Blue (1 point each) Hawk. I could pull strong bow too to save a little. But it doesn't matter much. The problem is having to max 3 masteries even only taking 3 skills from fire and 2 from lightning. Very expensive SP wise and will probably spell doom for the character eventually. I enjoy playing, but I would rather go to work than farm.

NOTE: Zero defense is included in this build, no shields or +parry or anything. All skills were taken to increase damage. It is pretty stripped down as it is and still requires so much :O

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:35 am
by Dhrag
I personally do not suggest pure STR for bow. Go pure INT with Cold is what I would do.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:53 am
by FK47
Dhrag wrote:I personally do not suggest pure STR for bow. Go pure INT with Cold is what I would do.

This is bad advice.