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Help with making new char. What to choose?

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:40 am
by Soundwork
Heey, ok.. First.. I know there are 100'ds of topics like this. srry bout that.

Well, I'm looking for some advice..
I wanna make a new char. but know i dont realy know what char.
I'm thinking of full INT sword but.. Is that good? Will I be strong?
And.. what skills to to take in combination with full INT sword?
Or must i go hybrid INT? Plz someone help me =D Thnx!

Greetz, Soundwork

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:25 am
by vulperin
Up to you. There are so many combinations.

These are the build that will ensure that you're at a "good" range

1. Pure str Glaive
2. Pure str Blade
3. Pure str Bow
3. Int hybrid Spear
4. Int Hybrid sword

These are the build that is called "joke" by many players

1. Pure int Bow
2. Str hybrid glaive
3. Str hybrid bladers

If you want to go to full int sword, that's ok. As for what skills i can't really help you. But expect to die when mobbed because of your low HP (Even block won't help to save you sometimes).

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:18 pm
by Soundwork
Okay, thanks for youre advice :) What is normaly strongest char. in game?

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:13 pm
by LuCiDiTy
Hi if you wanna go pure int sword/shield is good because of the block and more defence from shield. You can either go spear skills to get the hp passive or sword for the knockdown and stab.

If you wanna be a strong char pure str is something for you. Pure str glavie/fire is strong because of the hp passive. Pure str blader is strong because of the sheild that gives more defence and block.

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:51 pm
by Soundwork
Hmm, ok.. But will INT sword be strong to? I dont like slow kills and things like that.. and pure STR dont like strong to me (srry?)

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:26 pm
by Soundwork
Its not that i want INT.. It looked good to me.
I'm siddering between a pure INT sword and a pure STR blade.. wich one is better?

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:15 pm
by eis39
i am a str blader and my friend is a int sword. he does 20% higher dmg than me but i have like 500hp more and were just lv16. i really like my blader becuz i die extreemely rarely when not bacause im afk or a npc thief one hit me... then again, i level slower than my friend since i does less dmg, but im a lot safer. in addition, i use more mp pots while he uses more hp pots.
Go Blade:) but really its your choice. do what appeals most to you:survivability but slow killing or fast killing and levling but you die more often.

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:49 am
by Soundwork
Hmm, yeah, but if u and ure friend PvP, who wins? xD
Anyway, i'm still siddering..

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:58 am
by Soundwork
Srry for double, but, must i go for sword/blade shield? Or is glavie and spear way better? New question -.-:P

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:41 am
by eis39
i win easily cuz he never takes my hp down below half(i have 1300hp). though we only fight nonpots duels because if we were potting it would take five years since we do low dmg as we are spfarming with 9 gap.

i like shield cos of defence and block, but my next char is gonna be str glaive or int spear though....

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:51 am
by Soundwork
Yeah ok, but thats normal. If u have a gap like that he can never hit good like a full INT max can hit. I think i go for Kitari's build, is that a good one?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:59 am
by Soundwork
I'm just thinking, IS the STR blade or the INT sword better? I really dont know xD I have 2-3 days left before i can make new char. Hope i know it then =(

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:43 am
by vulperin
Soundwork wrote:I'm just thinking, IS the STR blade or the INT sword better? I really dont know xD I have 2-3 days left before i can make new char. Hope i know it then =(


Ok i try to help you here.

So now you're hard to decide whether to choose Str bladder/ int sword?

Str Blader:

1. This is the build which is for hardcore people. Lvling is the slowest for this build.
2. This build also requires a lot of SP, thus making grinding an even tougher choice.
3. However you think this build sucks? NO! This build is the best tanker, rank #1 no doubt. Even the so-called best in dealing out dmg has a tough time bringing this brute down. Imagine, high hp with block.
4. In dmg wise, i think it is one of the weakest dmg but it can still kill people though

Int sword:

1. Levelling is far easier than str blader, however you need 2 nukes (not sure) to kill a monster.
2. Damage is higher than str blader no doubt
3. I am not sure if this build requires a lot of SP but in what i have read, yes you need a lot too
4. However don't expect this build to tank. Yes the block will help but not very much. This build requires you to kill your opponent fast enough before they kill you

Now the choice is yours

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:01 pm
by Soundwork
Hmm, well, i guess i'll take INT sword, however i'm not sure yet.
In PvP i think blade wins, but i dont like slow leveling and slow kills..
Like i said before i'm thinking of using Kitaris build.
I'm watching PvP in Downhang now, hope i can wednesday make the right decission (Thats bad english i know, but I'm only 12 years old and from The Netherlands.. My english is not so good yet ;-))
Anyway, thanks for ure help!

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:09 pm
by Soundwork
Hmm, i think i've maded my decision (or however u write that)
INT SWORD xD And i think with Kitaris build! Yeah, thats it gonna be :D Hope u guys agree with my choice? I mean, u guys think its good to huh?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:21 pm
by vulperin
Kitary build is :D . LOL...seriously yes it is good. But the question is: WIll you feel comfortable with it?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:20 pm
by Soundwork
Comfortable? What the hell does that mather xD As long as i will be good its comfortable ;-)
But, i will be chased down like a innoying bug by STR bladers? Hope not xD
Ow, but erh.. Some people said Mkaaru (or something like that) guild is better? Hmm, i think i take Kitari's guild.. Let the training begin! (over 3 days -,-)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:21 pm
by Soundwork
Lol, i have another question (when it stops? :P )
mKaaru's or Kitary's build? Wich one is better?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:56 pm
by Priam
the one that suits you best. There is no 'better' build, it will come down on the way you play it. Eventually you will follow your own imagination.

And hurray btw, another dutchie playing :)

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:28 pm
by Soundwork
I can't make that decission on my own, i need experienced help ;-)

I just wanna know; Wich build has the most damage? Or, just, wich one is the best xD

Tough i wanna thank all people who helped me to here, finally we are by the last question ;-)

I just wanna know; Wich build has the most damage? Or, just, wich one is the best xD


About that: I mean, the Kitary's or the mKuura, dont come with glavie STR, that decision is already maded ;-)

I hope i did make the good choice with almost full INT sword.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:01 am
by IguanaRampage
i like int sword a lot, because unless you play a lot the int ends up better at pvp since it lvls so fast. Just remember to train with bow at least until lvl 24, (i woulds go til 30) then train by nuking with spear unless you get an awesome sword. Good luck on that. :D

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:21 am
by Chaud
IguanaRampage wrote:Just remember to train with bow at least until lvl 24, (i woulds go til 30) then train by nuking with spear unless you get an awesome sword. Good luck on that. :D

Lawl? Bow skills to delvl later, bad idea ftl?
Ints either gets sword or spear skills...int bow is a joke

IguanaRampage wrote: int ends up better at pvp since it lvls so fast.

Let me know when fast lvling = good at pvp. Bots with gold tickets level fast, are they good at pvp?

Don't give advice till you have played to 64+, or at least 52+...

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:32 pm
by Soundwork
Glad that you say INT is good:D
But i still dont know what build to take? Kitary's or mKaaru's, or even a better build i dont know?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:51 pm
by vulperin
mKaaru? Well i don't know him...

As for your second last question on which do most dmg. Pure int spear did the most. But i thought you want int sword?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:08 pm
by rangah
Isn't Kitary a glavier? mKaaru is int sword iirc.

btw, I'd go with the str blader. look waaaay cooler at 7th/8th/9th degree (both blade/shield looks hawt)

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:11 pm
by Soundwork
Look doesnt matter, and no, Kitary's build is sword xD
Somebody have the answer? Kitary's build is nuker mixed with sword melee. Is that good? Or is it better to be PURE NUKER? Whats the right build for INT sword?

Dont come with choose what u want and what u like xD Srry

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:11 pm
by ShizKnight
Pure Int Spear. Or Hybrid Int Spear. Amazing DPS.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:26 pm
by Kayson
Do a pure str blader. Farm 100k sp. Max out all the bicheon masteries, and max out the lighting buffs/passives. That would be pretty tight build right there.



Realisticly, I like the pure int spear. That's what my build is. I farmed 1.3k sp (not very much in the world of sp farming). At lvl 17 I don't use a single hp potion grinding tigers (black or white) because I deal so much damage (I can crit @ 1200 dmg already {with zerk}, I get around 600 dmg on avg).

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:45 pm
by Soundwork
But i like shields, and have already bought SoS+4 sword xD
But if pure INT spear is better.. O darn, i keep siddering.. it never stops..
Sword int? Spear int? Blade str? I can't make a choice between this 3..
People, please all answer, and help me out!

Owh, and if u say something like: Str blade! Tell me why, and perhaps u can give me the URL of a good build for that.

PS: I think i liek pure INT sword the most i think.. Perhaps someone can advise me in a pure INT sword build? So please tell me what u like, a build, and if pure INT sword is good+build? Plz!

Pure Str?

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 2:34 pm
by stormstorm
Im pure str blader...fire/light buffs..
I think the main points are listed but..anyway

BAD POINTS OF A BLADER
1. U dun own pvp unless u get AT LEAST ur 2nd stab
(i think..coz tts wad im experiencing now)
And tt 2nd stab comes at lvl45
2. U can see ur guildmates lvls fly past urs as u
have ur fun grinding as the SLOWEST possible
class in terms of lvling.
3. A shield is an extra piece of equipment = extra spendings if u dun wanna compromise survivability for gold

GOOD POINTS OF A BLADER
1. I think blade/shield gotta be the COOLEST
looking equips u can get...(yea yea i noe "looks dun matter" to u..but hey...it makes my day to zoom in and enjoy the aesthetics")
2. U get to maximise a wolf's potential.
3. 3 stabs looks gay
4. I havent died to most pplz my lvl with pots in a
long time..least mobs
5. A br 19/20 shield will get u tt "wtf" everywhere u PvP
6. A crit on stabs really hurts
7. The chains series gotta be the coolest looking
skill set in the game..IMO

I heard u want visual persuasion...Here u go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvgxm1-0wMI
This video reaffirmed my choice..while i was wondering " WTF..i cant do no shit with one stab!!!! BLADES SUX"

Kudos...i hope u join the KD kind