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OK first off let me start by saying that I love SRO. Some aspects do get me pissed but I can throw those aside, and still enjoy the game.

But right now I need some help, advice really. I have been experimenting with different body types, and different builds, and different weapons.

As for the weapons the ones that seemed to be my liking are the spear, and glaive. I also want to stick to Garments. That being said I have tried different builds and different ratios to those builds. I cannot for the life of me find a good ratio. I want to dabbel in all of the 4 force trees. Little bit of this, and a little of that which would include Self-Breath Heal. So it would seem that a ratio leaning towards INT would be the way to go but I just cannot find a good one. Any advice would be appreciated. I have tried 1:4, 2:3

Also I did not notice any difference, but does Volume, and Height make any difference?

Dixie_Normus wrote:OK first off let me start by saying that I love SRO. Some aspects do get me pissed but I can throw those aside, and still enjoy the game.

But right now I need some help, advice really. I have been experimenting with different body types, and different builds, and different weapons.

As for the weapons the ones that seemed to be my liking are the spear, and glaive. I also want to stick to Garments. That being said I have tried different builds and different ratios to those builds. I cannot for the life of me find a good ratio. I want to dabbel in all of the 4 force trees. Little bit of this, and a little of that which would include Self-Breath Heal. So it would seem that a ratio leaning towards INT would be the way to go but I just cannot find a good one. Any advice would be appreciated. I have tried 1:4, 2:3

Also I did not notice any difference, but does Volume, and Height make any difference?

Its dixenormus!
Force is a waste of sp, think about 90 cap.
90 spear/90 fire or light / 60 cold / 60 fire or light....
If you want garms for pvp, str fire glaive....
If you want prot for pvp, int spear hybrid.

yea dont get force unless you REALLY like ressing ppl.

If your planning on using spear then go INT Heavy Hybrid wearing Armor or Protector.a good % to keep is anywhere from 83-90 MAGICAL.
if you plan on using glaive then go Pure str glaive.
When going Pure str you wanna go Main Fire( For all those nice buffs)and Sub Light( for the speed) and cold if u want aswell(For that nice defence bonus)

Making your Character taller or short Fat or skinny doesnt make a difference in th game.. its all just personal preference

Well the only part of Force I was even considering was the very first skill, the one that gives the user (me) HP. I want to take it to at least the first or second level. That way if I get in a bind with monsters, and I ran out of pots I still have that to fall back on. The only reason I say that is because it seems that unless I am pure strenth I end up sitting on my butt way to much.

I do want to stay in Garms, because of the less MP comsumption. Also I was leaning more towards fire anyway cause light doesn't seem to be as strong. And your saying 90 in my 2 primaries, and 60 in the others.

Also at what ratio should I spend my CP. I do want to be a INT hybrid, but I do not want to die easily either.

Dixie_Normus wrote:Well the only part of Force I was even considering was the very first skill, the one that gives the user (me) HP. I want to take it to at least the first or second level. That way if I get in a bind with monsters, and I ran out of pots I still have that to fall back on. The only reason I say that is because it seems that unless I am pure strenth I end up sitting on my butt way to much.

I do want to stay in Garms, because of the less MP comsumption. Also I was leaning more towards fire anyway cause light doesn't seem to be as strong. And your saying 90 in my 2 primaries, and 60 in the others.

Also at what ratio should I spend my CP. I do want to be a INT hybrid, but I do not want to die easily either.

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.


btw: amusing word play for your name ^^

Nocturjo wrote:I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

True.

Running out of pots = silly reason to get force. Thats what vigors are for. The few that have force on our server only use the heals in job wars, and they are desuited cause they are weak.

Nocturjo wrote:

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

I did not know this. I thought it was just for others.

Also again how should I distrubute my CP?
When I was trying to make a STR hybrid I kept putting the points into STR until it was 36 STR :24 INT. Then I switched over to a 3:2 distribution. Should I do the same with INT or just do 2:3 right from the start?

Dixie_Normus wrote:Nocturjo wrote:

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

I did not know this. I thought it was just for others.

Also again how should I distrubute my CP?
When I was trying to make a STR hybrid I kept putting the points into STR until it was 36 STR :24 INT. Then I switched over to a 3:2 distribution. Should I do the same with INT or just do 2:3 right from the start?

Look at balances. Don't be str hybrid obiously...
Just keep your mag balance between 85-90% with no gear on and you will be okay.

chaud wrote:

Dixie_Normus wrote:Nocturjo wrote:

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

I did not know this. I thought it was just for others.

Also again how should I distrubute my CP?
When I was trying to make a STR hybrid I kept putting the points into STR until it was 36 STR :24 INT. Then I switched over to a 3:2 distribution. Should I do the same with INT or just do 2:3 right from the start?

Look at balances. Don't be str hybrid obiously...
Just keep your mag balance between 85-90% with no gear on and you will be okay.

Can you please stop your poison for 10 minutes. A str hybrid is a viable build so screw off.

Yes a str hybrid is a good build IF made right.. if made wrong they dont do enough dmg and cant tank.. thats why most ppl think str hybrids suck. hybrids are also the most expensive char to make. for SP and gold..you gotta be patient when making a hybrid specially a str one .. but it does pay off in the long run

ZeroPheer wrote:Yes a str hybrid is a good build IF made right.. if made wrong they dont do enough dmg and cant tank.. thats why most ppl think str hybrids suck. hybrids are also the most expensive char to make. for SP and gold..you gotta be patient when making a hybrid specially a str one .. but it does pay off in the long run

all builds can be "good" IF MADE RIGHT. hehe.


but as for me i am 88% magic balance (naked) and 93% with my gear on...

and i love my build. so there is my suggestion.

PsYch008 wrote:

ZeroPheer wrote:Yes a str hybrid is a good build IF made right.. if made wrong they dont do enough dmg and cant tank.. thats why most ppl think str hybrids suck. hybrids are also the most expensive char to make. for SP and gold..you gotta be patient when making a hybrid specially a str one .. but it does pay off in the long run

all builds can be "good" IF MADE RIGHT. hehe.


but as for me i am 88% magic balance (naked) and 93% with my gear on...

and i love my build. so there is my suggestion.

Which is an awesome suggestion. Honestly this game is about what lvl of playing style you want to do. And he's right, the str hybrid is very costly, however, when I am grinding off greens at my lvl, I get nearly 130k gold, before selling the loot. One day with the loots and gold, I got 500k worth, and that was still not counting the 3 weapon elixirs.

Again, you have yet to answer my question.
Why sacrafice dmg, higher crits for more mp?

ZeroPheer wrote:Yes a str hybrid is a good build IF made right.. if made wrong they dont do enough dmg and cant tank.. thats why most ppl think str hybrids suck. hybrids are also the most expensive char to make. for SP and gold..you gotta be patient when making a hybrid specially a str one .. but it does pay off in the long run

No, your wrong, anything can be made "BETTER" with good gear, however pure str just owns hybrid str. Hybrid str does less dmg with crits, has less hp, only thing better is that you have more def, and you dont have much more anyway. Pure str with ALWAYS be better than str hybrid if they both have the same gear.

But the question in hand was not what was better, but what to try. There are viable builds, and yes, you CAN sacrifice hp, however those wonderful little tablets that give me 150 on each of three items, more then compensate.

Tatianasaphira wrote:But the question in hand was not what was better, but what to try. There are viable builds, and yes, you CAN sacrifice hp, however those wonderful little tablets that give me 150 on each of three items, more then compensate.

Your still ignoring me.
You can get 70 and have a 15k hp pure str.
Or a 12k hybird. The hybrid does less dmg, has more mp, dies faster, less phys def.

Why?

i guess the STR hybrid is probably best done with a blader, you aren't sacrificing as much damage due to the combos. the INT also adds some magical damage and gives mini nukes so characters like bladers have an opening move. It also gives some more magical defence, since bladers already have high defence, the small sacrifice on the physical and health aspect might be worth it to add and get more magic defence since high end garmets are not easy for everyone to get

chaud wrote:

Tatianasaphira wrote:But the question in hand was not what was better, but what to try. There are viable builds, and yes, you CAN sacrifice hp, however those wonderful little tablets that give me 150 on each of three items, more then compensate.

Your still ignoring me.
You can get 70 and have a 15k hp pure str.
Or a 12k hybird. The hybrid does less dmg, has more mp, dies faster, less phys def.

Why?

But can be more fun...and isn't this what the game is all about? Its fun to play something different then constantly doing what everyone else is doing.

Tatianasaphira wrote:But can be more fun...and isn't this what the game is all about? Its fun to play something different then constantly doing what everyone else is doing.

You have fun losing. It must bring joy to your heart and tears to your eyes seeing yourself dead to an int hybrid, pure int, or str hybrid.

People Please! I do not want to turn this into a discussion about which build is better. There are enough of those already on this forum. The main reason why you guys fight over it is because the game is so flexible in character development. Everybody can make their character to their liking.

The main reason I started this thread is because after a month of trying different builds, and such I cannot find the build that best suits me.

Please do not derail this thread with your opinions. I need facts, and advice.

Fact: Str hybrid = less dmg, more mp. Bad.

chaud wrote:

Str hybrid = less dmg, more mp

Thank you captian obvious

what is a freaking hybrid......u guys useing all these technical term gets me really confused

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1746

P.S: try using the search button (alot of your questions will be handled in other topics).

Obviously Chaud hasn't met a well farmed str hybrid on his server. Str hybrid is probably the hardest build to perfect. Yes, str hybrids have less hp, less crit dmg but we do more damage than pure str builds minus the crit. I'm about 1k under the HP I'm suppose to have if I was pure str. I was duelling my guild leader who's lvl 70 and pure int spear user. I could tank him long enough to kill him, and I'm lv 65. For those of you who don't know, the difference in gear between a lv 65 and lvl 70 is substantial. He was wearing armor and I still killed him. I don't think hybrids are meant for duelling 1v1 anyways. Do you 1v1 people while jobbing? I don't think so. You call for backup or the other side calls for backup.

Here's another example. Our guild had a mini in-guild war amongst each other. At one point it was 5 v 5. My team had a capped nuker, capped archer, lv 65 nuker, lv 57 blader and myself, a hybrid str archer. The other team had a capped archer w/ SoS bow, capped nuker, 62 blader, 68 nuker and a capped blader. Now I don't know about your strat but if you were playing against my team, you would probably take out the capped players first if you didn't know my exact build. But my guildies knew my exact build, somebody who's got HP, who can do damage and someobdy who can crit like a str build. Every single round we fought, they would try to hit me first. Okay, so they kill me first, they need 2 ppl to kill me, that leaves 2 of them attacking me and 3 doing whatever else. The two that attack me are the nuker and SoS bower, that allows my other guys to hit the SoS bower, eliminating him. That's a hell of a good trade for us. We won the fight 7-3. I wouldn't underestimate any hybrid whatsoever. The reason why alot of people don't think hybrid builds are any good is because they are misrepresented. How can you compared 1000 pure builds to only 10 hybrid builds? It's just not statistically sensical. I would say most pure builds are mediocre and only the rich ones prevail because of better gear and weapons. If there are 10 "perfect" pure builds in the 1000, how many "perfect" builds are in the hybrid category? I know my example is kiltered, but the principle is there.

JianMin wrote:Obviously Chaud hasn't met a well farmed str hybrid on his server. Str hybrid is probably the hardest build to perfect. Yes, str hybrids have less hp, less crit dmg but we do more damage than pure str builds minus the crit. I'm about 1k under the HP I'm suppose to have if I was pure str. I was duelling my guild leader who's lvl 70 and pure int spear user. I could tank him long enough to kill him, and I'm lv 65. For those of you who don't know, the difference in gear between a lv 65 and lvl 70 is substantial. He was wearing armor and I still killed him. I don't think hybrids are meant for duelling 1v1 anyways. Do you 1v1 people while jobbing? I don't think so. You call for backup or the other side calls for backup.

Here's another example. Our guild had a mini in-guild war amongst each other. At one point it was 5 v 5. My team had a capped nuker, capped archer, lv 65 nuker, lv 57 blader and myself, a hybrid str archer. The other team had a capped archer w/ SoS bow, capped nuker, 62 blader, 68 nuker and a capped blader. Now I don't know about your strat but if you were playing against my team, you would probably take out the capped players first if you didn't know my exact build. But my guildies knew my exact build, somebody who's got HP, who can do damage and someobdy who can crit like a str build. Every single round we fought, they would try to hit me first. Okay, so they kill me first, they need 2 ppl to kill me, that leaves 2 of them attacking me and 3 doing whatever else. The two that attack me are the nuker and SoS bower, that allows my other guys to hit the SoS bower, eliminating him. That's a hell of a good trade for us. We won the fight 7-3. I wouldn't underestimate any hybrid whatsoever. The reason why alot of people don't think hybrid builds are any good is because they are misrepresented. How can you compared 1000 pure builds to only 10 hybrid builds? It's just not statistically sensical. I would say most pure builds are mediocre and only the rich ones prevail because of better gear and weapons. If there are 10 "perfect" pure builds in the 1000, how many "perfect" builds are in the hybrid category? I know my example is kiltered, but the principle is there.

Your build would be x2 if you were pure str, you never actually stated how str hybrid was better than pure str, you just said supposedly how you "pwned" others. And yes, there are str hybrids fully farmed on our server, and they suck balls (Kurorin).

chaud wrote:

Tatianasaphira wrote:But can be more fun...and isn't this what the game is all about? Its fun to play something different then constantly doing what everyone else is doing.

You have fun losing. It must bring joy to your heart and tears to your eyes seeing yourself dead to an int hybrid, pure int, or str hybrid.

Actually I don't pvp very often, and usually I die to a double crit. Most of the time, I don't.

And you were asking why sacrifice for more sp. I wasn't doing to for that, I was doing int so that when I am using my imbue it hits for more. The extra sp was just a bonus.

Tatianasaphira wrote:

chaud wrote:

Dixie_Normus wrote:Nocturjo wrote:

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

I did not know this. I thought it was just for others.

Also again how should I distrubute my CP?
When I was trying to make a STR hybrid I kept putting the points into STR until it was 36 STR :24 INT. Then I switched over to a 3:2 distribution. Should I do the same with INT or just do 2:3 right from the start?

Look at balances. Don't be str hybrid obiously...
Just keep your mag balance between 85-90% with no gear on and you will be okay.

Can you please stop your poison for 10 minutes. A str hybrid is a viable build so screw off.

yes. having less damage and less hp then a pure build is so awesome.

im not chauds biggest fan, but he knows more about builds then you ever will. he posts FACTS

Fly wrote:

Tatianasaphira wrote:

chaud wrote:

Dixie_Normus wrote:Nocturjo wrote:

I'v heard that it's better to get the force skill that lets you heal others, cause it heals a lot more and you can also use it on yourself.

I did not know this. I thought it was just for others.

Also again how should I distrubute my CP?
When I was trying to make a STR hybrid I kept putting the points into STR until it was 36 STR :24 INT. Then I switched over to a 3:2 distribution. Should I do the same with INT or just do 2:3 right from the start?

Look at balances. Don't be str hybrid obiously...
Just keep your mag balance between 85-90% with no gear on and you will be okay.

Can you please stop your poison for 10 minutes. A str hybrid is a viable build so screw off.

yes. having less damage and less hp then a pure build is so awesome.

im not chauds biggest fan, but he knows more about builds then you ever will. he posts FACTS

Just a question. How would you feel if someone told you that a build you have been playing over half way, have had no trouble leveling, apparently is a joke, waste of space etc...just a thought. Most likely I will be 45 tomorrow so I just don't understand how you can just blindly trash it. I know that I made a lot of mistakes, thats what curst hearts are for, but really, I have had no issues, and for the most part I can beat up things nearly 6 lvls higher then me

Low lvl pvp doesn't matter.
I don't care if you grind it up to 70 and farm, str hybrids are right up there with int bow.