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hybird >>strongest class??

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:38 am
by __Zeus__
hybird> the best class i heard many ppl said that
but how do i build str? int? to get the best
1:3? 1:5? or 1:8? i use sword, main:int+ knockdown
pros plx help me
And can we get balance 90 : 90 when do hybird?

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:11 am
by Ice771x
i seriously doubt that its possible to have both balances at 90. thatd take some serious alchemy. even so i dont think youcould do it.

i think hybrids are strongest personally. im not sure which ratio is best, but id keep lookin around if iwere you

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 12:33 pm
by vulperin
....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU

only if i could

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:45 pm
by VOID
if i had a video, i would show it,

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:50 pm
by Jazz
i think 1:2 is the strongest not sure tho.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:02 pm
by Priam
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU


People don't build Hybrids for nothing you know. They're not considered weak anymore. A lot of strong players are actually hybrids, *pointing at our mod: Sui*

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:16 pm
by Skitsefrenik
Priam wrote:
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU


People don't build Hybrids for nothing you know. They're not considered weak anymore. A lot of strong players are actually hybrids, *pointing at our mod: Sui*


yes, SUI is strong, but she far from STRONGEST, even at the cap.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:29 pm
by Priam
Skitsefrenik wrote:
Priam wrote:
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU


People don't build Hybrids for nothing you know. They're not considered weak anymore. A lot of strong players are actually hybrids, *pointing at our mod: Sui*


yes, SUI is strong, but she far from STRONGEST, even at the cap.


Not the strongest maybe, but she sure can kick ass. And is an perfect example of a hybrid not being weak.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:24 pm
by Troo
The main point here I think is that there is no strongers/superior/best/strongest class. They both have their own potentional and are good in their own way (maybe except str-hybrids :P). The main point of hybrids is that they have more hp then pure ints, and more atk power then pure str's. Video's of int-hybrids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj8KjP_Myyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvs0pO8yhHc
- note: none of these video's shows whether a build owns or not: just their fighting style

On-topic:
we actually have 2 sticky'd guides lol:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1746
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7853

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:29 pm
by vulperin
Troo wrote:The main point here I think is that there is no strongers/superior/best/strongest class. They both have their own potentional and are good in their own way (maybe except str-hybrids :P). The main point of hybrids is that they have more hp then pure ints, and more atk power then pure str's. Video's of int-hybrids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj8KjP_Myyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CgMQ8nRR44&
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvs0pO8yhHc
- note: none of these video's shows whether a build owns or not: just their fighting style

On-topic:
we actually have 2 sticky'd guides lol:
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1746
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=7853


EXACTLY. Yes hybrid is strong i admit. They can kick many people ass. But strong =/= strongest dammit. And yes they never build it for nothing. They want to be good and different from the rest at the same time. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN SAY HYBRID IS THE STRONGEST.

Yes it bothers me too much because some people get too cocky about being hybrid and began to show off. 1 second later BOMB!! nuked by some higher lvl people and died.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:29 pm
by Ice771x
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU



....yeah....cus im gonna sit around and waste my time frapsing people pvping....

in my opinion, and i say IN MY OPINION because i dont want someone saying z0mgZZ t4h7s n07 tR00 w17h 3veRy1!!!! because i dont say it is. in my opinion, if you build a hybrid right, and have good gear (gear makes the game. not 100% the build. unless youre some shitty 1:1. then no matter what gear youve got your flarked.), a hybrid can take a pure. ive beaten people with 98% balance around my level. its not that far fetched. it just takes good gear and some kind of knowledge about the game.

ive heard talk about people saying a 3:1 hybrid owns all. i dont really think thats true, but itd be nice to hear from people that have such a character or have had experience with one, weather it be a friend of whatever.

3:1, 2:1, 40:1, whatever. who has some input on int:str ratios?

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:34 pm
by vulperin
Ice771x wrote:
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU



....yeah....cus im gonna sit around and waste my time frapsing people pvping....

in my opinion, and i say IN MY OPINION because i dont want someone saying z0mgZZ t4h7s n07 tR00 w17h 3veRy1!!!! because i dont say it is. in my opinion, if you build a hybrid right, and have good gear (gear makes the game. not 100% the build. unless youre some shitty 1:1. then no matter what gear youve got your flarked.), a hybrid can take a pure. ive beaten people with 98% balance around my level. its not that far fetched. it just takes good gear and some kind of knowledge about the game.

ive heard talk about people saying a 3:1 hybrid owns all. i dont really think thats true, but itd be nice to hear from people that have such a character or have had experience with one, weather it be a friend of whatever.

3:1, 2:1, 40:1, whatever. who has some input on int:str ratios?


ok you got a point. And you don't have to waste time frapsing people PVP. There are so many already. It is obvious. It's like scissors paper stone. One can beat the other and another is weaker...

But did you see the threadstarter? He heard many people saying hybrid is the BEST. Wow...best? Sure they are strong i hands down, but so good till it is best? Wow... After lvling up my characters i want to see what hybrids got in their sleeve

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:12 pm
by Ice771x
well the question is crap to begin with. there is no BEST build. so therefore, any answer would be wrong. so lets just change the topic. lol

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:04 pm
by Jazz
Ice771x wrote:well the question is crap to begin with. there is no BEST build. so therefore, any answer would be wrong. so lets just change the topic. lol


hybrid immune to all abnormals.

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:47 pm
by DragOon
The best build is hybrid because its an all around, kills in pvp and kills mobs efficiently tries to combine the best sides of pures.

There are stronger builds, the word best doesnt mean strongest.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:55 am
by Ice771x
....yes it does.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:54 am
by JessicaYan
Builds nowadays are...not so important....items are the main factor...sadly

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:16 am
by dreyepatch
it is rummored that gm said hybrid is "best" build in later higher lvls with capped rised, if your going to go hybrid do a 2:1 int build(2ints and 1str), use either spear or sword. bow is not recomended. save your nukes for pve, or support in pvp, but not for 1v1 pvp. good luck

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:50 am
by __Zeus__
so sad :( the cap for balance is 80%def 90%mag
any way if u are a nuke hybird do u need 2 nukes ex: light+fire??
anyone know about this?

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 12:30 pm
by DotCom
Actually there is a video of a Hybrid owning a Pure STR :shock:. On server Athens: Icecool (hybrid-sword) VS Passion (pure str-glavie).

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YjP1npe1CoM (the video quality is really bad)

I think a good char is enough, then depends on how you play it.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:48 pm
by MapleFinale
ive only heard of int-heavy hybrid sword, how bout spear, do they do as well?

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:07 pm
by vulperin
I think spear is also good More damage in sacrifice for defense. In other words, you die easier but can do more damage

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:08 pm
by Anh_Hung_Rom
Skitsefrenik wrote:
Priam wrote:
vulperin wrote:....

Show me at least 10 different videos of hybrid owning other types of build and i will STFU


People don't build Hybrids for nothing you know. They're not considered weak anymore. A lot of strong players are actually hybrids, *pointing at our mod: Sui*


yes, SUI is strong, but she far from STRONGEST, even at the cap.


he* :roll:

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:57 pm
by Minerva
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cnYJmErCmqI

Blader vs Hybrid INT sword

Look at how many times the Hybrid INT messes up on her moves. And look at how precise the blader is when executing his, more like botting while pvping lol.

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:37 pm
by Kenshin
yes, we know taht the blader's KD, triple stab, repeat maneuver is superior in pvp. XD

ok this is my opinion. before we start talking about best build, we ahve to define what taht means. it basically means that this build has to be the best in every single; this build sadly (lol) does not exist. but there are superior builds taht excel in what they do. bladers excel in pvp; glaives do well in pvp and pretty well in pve; int hybrids do well in pve and do ok in pvp; and nukers excel in pve. tahts the little scale for ya. the best 4 builds so far i think. bows go into another category that i still dont fully understand.


THERE IS NO STRONGEST BUILD FOOLS, SO STOP MAKING THESE STUPID THREADS.

ppl like suicide girl can kick bladers' in the behinds and steal all our mobs but bladers will dominate pvp.

end of story. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:16 am
by dark shade
Isaw the blader was mostly using the turnover and backstabb skill. is that the best or its 4 combo or something like that skill good to?
Because that blader owned and i think i will mostly use stab skills too. 8)

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:46 am
by Troo
Stabs are great to use :twisted:, but combos/chains can be used from time2time to. Only the great thing about stabs is that:
- it can counter big attacks such as nukes when succesfull
- when succesfull the opponent is imobile, while you you can still atk him/her (with stabs)

While chains mainly go for the damage, don't ad any effects or anything.. but because of the damage you mostly use it for pve



P.s. ofcourse that was an unfair battle between the blader and hybrid xD..
- garment vs garment (blader has the advantage)
- triple*stab versus 2(?!)*stab (blader has the advantage)

butm.. you could clearly see the blader wasn't immune to ice.. so as soon as she saw the result of Frost Nova Series wasn't she better of switching to cold imbue?

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:08 am
by Resist
Every time im fighting a hybrid they have like half of my hp amount and does the same dmg as me, you can guess how that goes ;)

Unless they pumped almost every points into int.

But hybrids being the best - thats bullshit ;)

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:56 pm
by vanom
u guys are just retarded. think of a subject twice, b4 posting such a shit. no matter hybrid or full int using kd and tripple stabbing, they can't do shit to a full str glaive, equiped with at least +3 on each part of gear, maxed fire devine protection and maxed hp and mp with alchemy. and consider that good full str players switch to shield, when they have been knocked down. a lvl 64 shield +3 (or more) shield with high block ration give an additional magical denfense of at least 70. and u can pimp that mag. defense by alchemy too. so stabbing does nothing to them. and the dam of kd does not hurt that much, cuz u can recover, when ur on ur back.

so stop posting nonsense. 1st ice blader was best, then full str fire blader, now hybrid? people, the only build that has proven over the time to be really well balanced is full str glaive. so stop this shit -.-

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:47 pm
by Ice771x
vanom. just. shut up. before someone flames your ass off.