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The Secret Of The perfect build .........

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:29 am
by hitman47
Hi guyz

I know u all heard about the last GNGWC

and there is somethin about it really took my attention


i heard that they gave them 250 state point to distribute it the way they like

and the Top 5 builds who won the GNGWC

was all Hybrids ............. :shock:

and i have a pic too of GM crayon being asked about wut is the best build in high lvls pure int pr pure str ?

and he said Actually Hybrids do really good in high lvls

( i may get u that pic but it will take some time to search 4 it :roll: )

any way i wanna ask any1 who have a Hybrid Char lvl 6x

specially 2:1 Hybrid

i wanna know if it do really good in high lvls ????

if any1 have an idea about this... plz join the disscusion :? :?

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:19 pm
by killerkong
well the winner for the US contest has his build as a Hybrid...and he will start on a new char...using what he made in the compitition as his new char. no doubt in my mind his build to pwn.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:14 pm
by crazy death
Hmm... Im not quite 6x yet, but 56. And I am a hybrid, with 92% mag balance and 68% phys balance, and I gotta say in 1 on 1 hybrid really owns. Can easily take out str users at my lvl cuz if they dont have zerk (me neither that is^^) they are far from onehitting me, even a crit isnt enough. And a nuker cant onehit me neither cuz my mag defence is too high but I can oneshot a pure int nuker due to his lag of hp. So, as far as I have experienced it, a hybrid isnt that bad as I thought it would be.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:17 pm
by hitman47
killerkong wrote:well the winner for the US contest has his build as a Hybrid...and he will start on a new char...using what he made in the compitition as his new char. no doubt in my mind his build to pwn.


do u know if he was a hybrid int or str :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:18 pm
by hitman47
crazy death wrote:Hmm... Im not quite 6x yet, but 56. And I am a hybrid, with 92% mag balance and 68% phys balance, and I gotta say in 1 on 1 hybrid really owns. Can easily take out str users at my lvl cuz if they dont have zerk (me neither that is^^) they are far from onehitting me, even a crit isnt enough. And a nuker cant onehit me neither cuz my mag defence is too high but I can oneshot a pure int nuker due to his lag of hp. So, as far as I have experienced it, a hybrid isnt that bad as I thought it would be.


cool so i guess u r 2:1 hybrid int right ?

so u depend on nukes or phy skills :wink:

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:34 pm
by superblur
well all the balances were set at 75% so ive heard...

so its not fair to compare the GNG builds to the builds we have on our normal servers

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:45 pm
by vulperin
Huh...I have never believed in perfect build. There is no such thing in my opinion. Each has their own usefullness and weakness

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:43 pm
by JessicaYan
you have to keep in mind that GNG compt, they only got to use npc weps(crit 1). Therefore pure str would be very weak caused by thier 1 crit weps. On the real servers full str tips the scale wit thier crit. Don't get me wrong I think hybrid s/s are great builds, but I also think you need to consider the fact that items play a big role.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:52 pm
by Lance
and also they fight unqiues, not each other ?

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:10 pm
by hitman47
JessicaYan wrote:you have to keep in mind that GNG compt, they only got to use npc weps(crit 1). Therefore pure str would be very weak caused by thier 1 crit weps. On the real servers full str tips the scale wit thier crit. Don't get me wrong I think hybrid s/s are great builds, but I also think you need to consider the fact that items play a big role.


nooo u r wrong :D

the winner of the GNGWC had a full SoSun set and weapon

also most of the players got a set SoSun

cuz they said SoSun drops alot from Unique monster whice they are alot

there

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:12 pm
by hitman47
Lance wrote:and also they fight unqiues, not each other ?


actually u too are terriblly wrong :D

they can kill each other

actually they HAVE to kill each other to steal each others point

Unique = 50 point

Player = 20 point

:wink:

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:13 pm
by hitman47
superblur wrote:well all the balances were set at 75% so ive heard...

so its not fair to compare the GNG builds to the builds we have on our normal servers


nah u too wrong

in the last modifcation

they gave each player 250 state points to put where ever u want :roll:

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:18 pm
by Fadex
Aeges assistant .... has a 2:1 Str Spear fire acct, wich he rly ownz with in pvp.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:15 pm
by beav
wow...this really makes me wana become a hybrid XD. but then.. i would have to upgrade heuskal or bicheon, which would take up a shit load of sp..

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:34 pm
by crazy death
hitman47 wrote:
crazy death wrote:Hmm... Im not quite 6x yet, but 56. And I am a hybrid, with 92% mag balance and 68% phys balance, and I gotta say in 1 on 1 hybrid really owns. Can easily take out str users at my lvl cuz if they dont have zerk (me neither that is^^) they are far from onehitting me, even a crit isnt enough. And a nuker cant onehit me neither cuz my mag defence is too high but I can oneshot a pure int nuker due to his lag of hp. So, as far as I have experienced it, a hybrid isnt that bad as I thought it would be.


cool so i guess u r 2:1 hybrid int right ?

so u depend on nukes or phy skills :wink:


Mhhh.... would say 3:1 rather than 2:1. And in pvp I use a nuke+Imbue against nukers, maybe a Lionshout if they got too many hp and Nuke + KD+ Stab against str builds, in most cases thats enough to take them down.

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:49 pm
by cl0aked
would 90% str build be of any good ?

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:34 pm
by ShizKnight
Str Hybrid sucks. Int Hybrid was very suited for GNG since you have to do both decent PvP, and decent PvE.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:17 am
by Trekker
i'm a hybrid ...
bascially in 1 v1 against pure str glaive my lvl i almost never lose before...and against blader shield... it usually ended in a draw or either one die due to block / crit etc....

my phy is 72% mag is 98% :)

Hybrid really shine at higher lvl .... wif 8k hp and 12k mana and wif fire and ice tree up to 60+ mastery u gonnna have alot of def against phy or mag atk

Ps yes i'm 2:1 since lvl 25 pure int from 1-24

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:46 am
by hitman47
Trekker wrote:i'm a hybrid ...
bascially in 1 v1 against pure str glaive my lvl i almost never lose before...and against blader shield... it usually ended in a draw or either one die due to block / crit etc....

my phy is 72% mag is 98% :)

Hybrid really shine at higher lvl .... wif 8k hp and 12k mana and wif fire and ice tree up to 60+ mastery u gonnna have alot of def against phy or mag atk

Ps yes i'm 2:1 since lvl 25 pure int from 1-24


u know u will make me think again about changing my Char from pure int sword into a hybrid sword

we may talk in game cuz i have alot of questions about the hybrid build :roll:

my IGN is : HiTmAn47

i will be so glad to talk to u :)

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:13 am
by white_knight
hitman47 wrote:
Trekker wrote:i'm a hybrid ...
bascially in 1 v1 against pure str glaive my lvl i almost never lose before...and against blader shield... it usually ended in a draw or either one die due to block / crit etc....

my phy is 72% mag is 98% :)

Hybrid really shine at higher lvl .... wif 8k hp and 12k mana and wif fire and ice tree up to 60+ mastery u gonnna have alot of def against phy or mag atk

Ps yes i'm 2:1 since lvl 25 pure int from 1-24


u know u will make me think again about changing my Char from pure int sword into a hybrid sword

we may talk in game cuz i have alot of questions about the hybrid build :roll:

my IGN is : HiTmAn47

i will be so glad to talk to u :)


:shock: don! don change hybrid sux big time so little HP and weak nuke it sux sux sux my dmg was so low that i only do 3k steb on my same lv str (^.^)V and kill him in 3 shot

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:13 am
by klaus
if u think someday u will have a full sosun set so go hybrid

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:47 am
by Megalomaniac
What weapon can a hybrid use though? lol
INT weaps i believe?

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:19 pm
by vulperin
Ok this is the reason why i THINK hybrid is a little weaker than pures

You can't attack using both magic and physical skills at once (Exception imbues + skill). In other words you can't nuke and use soul spear at once. Since hybrid has a lower % in physical compared to pure str and lower % in magical compared to pure int, the rate of damage output is less.

And to make it a point. You can make a hybrid from pure but not the other way round. Lol, you if you're thinking to change to hybrid, be sure you're not going to back out.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:04 pm
by Megalomaniac
vulperin wrote:Ok this is the reason why i THINK hybrid is a little weaker than pures

You can't attack using both magic and physical skills at once (Exception imbues + skill). In other words you can't nuke and use soul spear at once. Since hybrid has a lower % in physical compared to pure str and lower % in magical compared to pure int, the rate of damage output is less.

And to make it a point. You can make a hybrid from pure but not the other way round. Lol, you if you're thinking to change to hybrid, be sure you're not going to back out.


A hybrid with 90% mag balance PWNS. :P
I had a hybrid and i still do on my 1st account.
And i never lost to anyone my lvl if i was potting but thought i was weak because took me longer than others to kill mobs.
Now i realize i wasnt weak at all... :banghead:

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 4:22 pm
by Kew
what to say? im more scared of a good built hybrid then a pure int.

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:17 pm
by Aya
coz you oneshot pure INTs but not hybrids :wink:

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 5:25 pm
by Megalomaniac
OMG lol this thread has totaly opened our eyes! :shock:

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:16 pm
by Sunita
Most of it is in the gear and weapons...

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:59 am
by hitman47
Guyz

Look in the last GNGWC

only hybrids survived the non ending fight between all builds

Hybrids tokk al the top places in the GNGWC :banghead:

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:44 am
by vulperin
Hmmm when i came to think of it this is what i conclude

If your physical+magical balance is very high, your damage output is high. This is because magic and physical are equally matched (E.g. Imbue + skills) Anyway i am gonna make a new topic on 4 builds and wanted to know each of the advantages