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a str bower can beat.......
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:52 am
by amazn
seriously speaking, what CAN a str bower actually kill. [regardless of pot]
of course i hear people ask why i stick to bow b/c of the long charge ups to atk, but i like bows, its all about the fun

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:54 am
by cuchulainn
If you like bow, keep it. Don't let others force you to choose something you don't like. Bows aren't great at 1v1 PVP, but they're deadly in large group fights.
When there's a bunch of chaos, you sneak up from behind and start picking off people before they even know what's going on. LanT is one of the best archers on troy and when his guild wars, the tanks go out and start trouble and then while the enemy is preoccupied, LanT starts sniping people.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:14 pm
by HertogJan
i am pretty new, but i totally love the bow
I also heard it aint the best/strongest weapon. But i prefer the fun above trying to be the best
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:20 pm
by ShizKnight
Bow isn't too flashy either, unfortunately.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:57 pm
by PB_and_J
But it has Anti-devil, imo one of the best looking spells in the game.,
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:42 pm
by IguanaRampage
dont let anyone dissuade you from what you want. The game is about having a good time, not listening to what the majority of people say. Just choose what you want and have a good time

But for the record, pure str bows can very often beat nukers of same lvl or lower
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:45 pm
by amazn
yes true it doesnt have any really flashy moves, but wth, all u have is a bow and arrows XD
yea being a bower is quite fun and i love it. my friend just told me, to be a sucessful bower, kill anything bfore it sees u XD
hehe iguana, you give me hope XD
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:56 pm
by IguanaRampage
glad to hear it.

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:23 pm
by Irukandji
come to think of it i've never seen 2 bowers pvp. But i guess its just whoever crits with AD first.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:42 pm
by NightShroud
I'm doing good at PvP vs blade, but I have a feeling 2-3 soul departs would kick my ass.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:58 pm
by Avalanche
Bow does good against INT's
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:00 pm
by badKarma
Bow..ers are one of the better builds in my opinion. They are unstoppable at low levels and can ks like a mother... i wont go any further.
Anyways, bowers are one of those builds where you dont have to sp farm or sp farm like a 1000 sp to become great >__>
<3 Bows
I'd like to hear some input on how bowers do at like lvl 5x+ (with average weapons), do the nukers steal the ksing crown?
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:52 pm
by amazn
hehheh yea it is easy to ks, not that i practice that.
i also wanna hear some higher lvl pure str bowers, are you good against specific pvpers, or just having the time of your life
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:06 am
by br0ken
Str Achers are basically the equivalent of Int Nukers. I think what mainly gives an advantage to nukers is their AOE Nukes which is usually a lot more than the bow AOE attacks
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:43 am
by NightShroud
br0ken wrote:Str Achers are basically the equivalent of Int Nukers. I think what mainly gives an advantage to nukers is their AOE Nukes which is usually a lot more than the bow AOE attacks
But STR bow has the advantage of more HP, so they can own nukes, and some blade/glaives.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:14 am
by twin8620
this is based off same lvl and plz leave msg if you disagree. 1on 1 vs int=bow wins. 1on1 vs blade=most of the time bow wins. 1on1 with a glaive= don't even try it.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:21 am
by kitary
NightShroud wrote:br0ken wrote:Str Achers are basically the equivalent of Int Nukers. I think what mainly gives an advantage to nukers is their AOE Nukes which is usually a lot more than the bow AOE attacks
But STR bow has the advantage of more HP, so they can own nukes, and some blade/glaives.
thay also have low mag defence , and no shield .. no disable except cold imbue
ow and win8620 my int hybrid has never lost to a bow my lvl yet
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:26 pm
by NightShroud
kitary wrote:NightShroud wrote:br0ken wrote:Str Achers are basically the equivalent of Int Nukers. I think what mainly gives an advantage to nukers is their AOE Nukes which is usually a lot more than the bow AOE attacks
But STR bow has the advantage of more HP, so they can own nukes, and some blade/glaives.
thay also have low mag defence , and no shield .. no disable except cold imbue
ow and win8620 my int hybrid has never lost to a bow my lvl yet
That's what garment is for, as for the shield..We're screwed ^.^
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:23 pm
by Shimohime
Which is why, bow does not do well in pvp. The good thing is, say if u're thieving or hunting, u can shoot ppl even if they try to run away. A bow with demon soul can shoot up to 21m, assuming u have grasswalk and phantom walk urself, even some1 who maxed phantom walk can't escape u without getting at least one hit in. Plus, bow is good in guild wars and very good in pve.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:29 pm
by hellsharpt
Bows aren't the best for 1 on 1. Can I kill a nuker of my level, yes if I crit him and he doesn't block. Can I kill another bow user, if I get the damage first, yes. Can I kill a blader or nuker of my level, probabaly not.
Knowing your weaknesses are important. For those reasons I'm a sneaky bastard in PvP. I attack those lower than me, attack from behind, and fight in groups, using focused fire on targets.
I like using a bow, its fun. Most PvP fights aren't fair to begin with. The sooner you realize it the better off you are.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:25 pm
by amazn
one more question, i have a lvl 32+5 bow, do i stick with it untill lvl 42, or start looking for lvl 35, 38 bows?
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:14 pm
by stimmedcow
amazn wrote:one more question, i have a lvl 32+5 bow, do i stick with it untill lvl 42, or start looking for lvl 35, 38 bows?
32 + 5 should last you through 38, so find a 38 + 3 or whatever you like. A 35 + 3 will do you no good unless it's crit is significanlty higher than the 32 + 5's, to which you'd get since bow crits are what makes the build. I'd save the money for a devent 38 + 3, but don't forget you want an awesome 42 + X

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:07 am
by reformat
and ya.. what type of bow is suitable for 42? sox? or +?
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:30 am
by Sun Wook
at lv 42.. because thats when it gets hard with no quests.. I would say SOS would be nice. If you're poor (like me) go +3...
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:07 pm
by amazn
reformat wrote:and ya.. what type of bow is suitable for 42? sox? or +?
w/e is cheap XD
i didnt even consider getting any ++ bows, until some random guy offered me the +5 bow for hecka cheap
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:52 pm
by hellsharpt
you can survive without a + bow, it will just take longer to kill stuff and you will use more pots, arrows, pills, and get less exp over time.
IMO get the best bow you can afford. Skimp on other stuff, if you can kill it before it hits you, thats good.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 2:54 am
by Pake1
Hey hellshaprt how do your jobbing if you theif.hunt.trade?
I know archers are generally used for support, and I can see you bringing a glavier with you while you trade, but how do you it?
Generally archers are not good for 1vs1, I mean, imagine a real life fight. The archer stands there while, it gets bombarded by glavie hits, come on now.
I think str/bows can fare against nukers, just so long as that they don't block an Anti-Devil or Strong bow

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:59 am
by amazn
well in real life, an archer would pwn the crap outta anything,
its like putting a fight b/n a g36 gunner and a guy with a taser
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:43 pm
by hellsharpt
I kill most people lower level than me easily. Nukers I can kill if higher level and I crit. If I zerk, I can kill higher levels. That and I'm sneaky and don't always fight alone.
Rarely are fights fair, people need to stop thinking they are. Why enter a fight you can't win, unless winning isn't your objective.
To answer the question I'm hunter 2 and thief 2+70% and my arrange are almost always over 2k.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:22 pm
by Ice_Warrior
i'm a fire/str glavier atma nd ia lways hunt alone, turning bow gud idea cz i love using dem but i also wanna do gud in hunting, and for the sake of it, glavirs are like bows worst nightmare. And do u think str bows can pwn hybrids with the firewall on?