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I finished Farm i have 1.5 m sp now
i love blader so but confused will make me crazy plz help
which is better for pvp in blader build
Bicheon , Cold , Fire or
Bicheon , Light , Fire or
Bicheon , Force , Fire

I wish to respond quickly

Blader isn't really a pvp build...

Goseki wrote:Blader isn't really a pvp build...

Every character can pvp the same good depending on the player but since all the characters are made for different abilities you will have to learn how to accept those abilities to.

Bladers are damn hard to kill if you are a good blader but on the other hand they don't kill as fast as other builds but I would go Bicheon/Cold/Fire.

ps. I am making one of those builds myself right now. Hihi.

Best pvp build using a blade would be:

Bich/Heuk/Fire.

Bich to debuff, kd, stab, switch to spear, ghost spear, stun, spear toss.


Bladers alone though... yea they're hard to kill, but are you gonna have fun being a punching bag? You'll rarely die, but you probably only kill people that are lower lvl than you...

I'm a pure int and I can usually tank most bladers without needing snow. Bladers were pretty good at 100 cap, but at 110, I haven't really seen a blader "pwn".

If blader is not a PvP build, then what is it?
It's definately not a PvE build.

The most PvP oriented build is perhaps Bicheon/Fire/Force.

omier44 wrote:If blader is not a PvP build, then what is it?
It's definately not a PvE build.

The most PvP oriented build is perhaps Bicheon/Fire/Force.

Blader is a tanking build. PvP kinda implies that you kill someone or someone kills you. For blader, neither happens really...

MFA1486 wrote:which is better for pvp in blader build
Bicheon , Cold , Fire or
Bicheon , Light , Fire or
Bicheon , Force , Fire

Out of the 2 bolded, you got 2 choices:

A more rounded defensive build, while being not quite as helpful in group pvp

Then you got a more helpful build in group situations, slightly less defensive prowess (physical), but more dominant over the semi-immune or non-immune builds of the game. (3 types of builds: Immune (cleric sub), Semi-Immune (force / pills), or Non-Immune)

Then again, the Force Blader has more chances combating warlock / other force users than the fire / cold build.

Now become much more confused
plz i need I want a clear answer from the experts
i love blader for any way i will do it but Bich/Heuk/Fire I can't control it

Go force its cool

MFA1486 wrote:Now become much more confused
plz i need I want a clear answer

Eh, I'll go more into it ...

Ningyotsukai-san wrote:
Fire / Cold ~

A more rounded defensive build, while being not quite as helpful in group pvp:

I said "more rounded" because there's only 2 build types: Str & Int.

If you take both Fire (Gives magical defense buff) and Cold (gives physical defense buff) you'll be more rounded, defensively, for dealing with more builds in either category (str or int).

I say it's not as useful in Group PvP because it doesn't give buffs or anything else to your "team" and I figured most people would ignore you to attempt to take out the more pressing builds. The only thing this would have to offer is to knockdown people, put bleed on them, or stun (less chances to than force build)


Fire / Force ~

Then you got a more helpful build in group situations, slightly less defensive prowess (physical),

I say this is more helpful for "group pvp" since, with the Force mastery, you can heal, res people, get rid of debuffs on you or your team, and have more chances to debuff / stun targets.

but more dominant over the semi-immune or non-immune builds of the game. (3 types of builds: Immune (cleric sub), Semi-Immune (force / pills), or Non-Immune)

I brought up the 3 types of builds for PvP purposes if you go with the Force Tree.

Immune means that all will fail, besides a few of your debuffs (Vital Spot skills).

Semi-Immune means that the debuffs can succeed, but they (the target) have ways of taking them off of themselves.

Non-Immune means that your debuffs can succeed and that the target has no way of taking them off...

Then again, the Force Blader has more chances combating warlock / other force users than the fire / cold build.

Again... read above, it's practically the same thing. Fire / Cold will have a slightly harder time PvPing with opponents that have Warlock or the Force Tree, while the Fire / Force will have an easier time removing the debuffs casted on you using the Force Tree's "Force Cure" and "Cure Therapy" skills.

Ningyotsukai-san wrote:

MFA1486 wrote:Now become much more confused
plz i need I want a clear answer

Eh, I'll go more into it ...

Ningyotsukai-san wrote:
Fire / Cold ~

A more rounded defensive build, while being not quite as helpful in group pvp:

I said "more rounded" because there's only 2 build types: Str & Int.

If you take both Fire (Gives magical defense buff) and Cold (gives physical defense buff) you'll be more rounded, defensively, for dealing with more builds in either category (str or int).

I say it's not as useful in Group PvP because it doesn't give buffs or anything else to your "team" and I figured most people would ignore you to attempt to take out the more pressing builds. The only thing this would have to offer is to knockdown people, put bleed on them, or stun (less chances to than force build)


Fire / Force ~

Then you got a more helpful build in group situations, slightly less defensive prowess (physical),

I say this is more helpful for "group pvp" since, with the Force mastery, you can heal, res people, get rid of debuffs on you or your team, and have more chances to debuff / stun targets.

but more dominant over the semi-immune or non-immune builds of the game. (3 types of builds: Immune (cleric sub), Semi-Immune (force / pills), or Non-Immune)

I brought up the 3 types of builds for PvP purposes if you go with the Force Tree.

Immune means that all will fail, besides a few of your debuffs (Vital Spot skills).

Semi-Immune means that the debuffs can succeed, but they (the target) have ways of taking them off of themselves.

Non-Immune means that your debuffs can succeed and that the target has no way of taking them off...

Then again, the Force Blader has more chances combating warlock / other force users than the fire / cold build.

Again... read above, it's practically the same thing. Fire / Cold will have a slightly harder time PvPing with opponents that have Warlock or the Force Tree, while the Fire / Force will have an easier time removing the debuffs casted on you using the Force Tree's "Force Cure" and "Cure Therapy" skills.

Dear you relied on semi-immune or non-immune builds i talk about total in the end my dear forget the team The most important thing for me Pvp Which is better in your opinion I want one sentence and I trust you now

If i understood your run on sentence, I think you said you wanna know what works vs people totally immune? Not everyone is, but if you wanna know, it wouldnt be force. And group/team is pvp. Pvp = player vs player. If you want 1 on 1, say so.

For the 2 builds vs people 100% immune in 1 on 1, its of course fire/cold.

MFA1486 wrote:Dear you relied on semi-immune or non-immune builds i talk about total in the end my dear forget the team The most important thing for me Pvp Which is better in your opinion I want one sentence and I trust you now

I'd just go with the Fire / Cold one. As I said in the post above, you'll have more defense (both physical / magical) to deal with a wide range of builds in PvP.

If you take Cold, you'd have 237 physical defense from the "Frost Guard" skill, and another 237 physical defense from the passive "cold armor", giving you 474 physical defense more than the Fire / Force build. Not to mention it'll be able to use Snow Shield (not maxed) to tank a bit better.

thx hitokiri



Ningyotsukai-san
Excuse me on the urgency to know this
i don't have more money to down skill's by silk and i love one word fro pro like ur

if your going for cap then option 3 otherwise option 1. Force builds are better at late game tbh unless u like being the support tanker in ba/ctf

aishsharma wrote:if your going for cap then option 3 otherwise option 1. Force builds are better at late game tbh unless u like being the support tanker in ba/ctf

heheh sry i'm smaller noob what is tbh and ba/ctf

MFA1486 wrote:

aishsharma wrote:if your going for cap then option 3 otherwise option 1. Force builds are better at late game tbh unless u like being the support tanker in ba/ctf

heheh sry i'm smaller noob what is tbh and ba/ctf

TBH - to be honest.
BA - Battle Arena.
CTF - Capture The Flag.

omier44 wrote:

MFA1486 wrote:

aishsharma wrote:if your going for cap then option 3 otherwise option 1. Force builds are better at late game tbh unless u like being the support tanker in ba/ctf

heheh sry i'm smaller noob what is tbh and ba/ctf

TBH - to be honest.
BA - Battle Arena.
CTF - Capture The Flag.

aha u mean cold good for those or contrary force is settable for it