Silkroad Online Forums

This test was done on a full STR character, results for hybrid or full INT will be different.

I wanted to know what the difference was between the 3 imbue's, will a higher value magic attack differ alot on a full STR using physical skills? You're about to find out...

I was using:
Ice jade force lvl 1
Thundersky force lvl 1
Extreme fire force lvl 1
Soul-Spear Move lvl 7

I used this skill 30 times for every imbue, killing nothing but hyungo soldiers.

Average DMG
Ice jade force 954 - 96%
Thundersky force 972 - 98%
Extreme fire force 992 - 100%

Lowest DMG
Ice jade force 846 - 97%
Thundersky force 823 - 94%
Extreme fire force 874 - 100%

Highest DMG
Ice jade force 976 - 96%
Thundersky force 1001 - 99%
Extreme fire force 1014 - 100%

Damage per attack power
Ice jade force 15 - 125%
Thundersky force 14 - 117%
Extreme fire force 12 - 100%

Ok, well done, but what can I do with these results?
Let's take the lightning imbue with an average of 69 mag attack, and the fire imbue with an average of 83 mag attack.
As you can see the fire imbue has 14 mag attack more, and if we take a look at the raw data you will see that the lightning imbue conflicts 2% less damage than the fire imbue, which means that every 1 mag attack difference on the imbue's will give 0,143% more damage.

Now we take the lvl 45 imbue's, there is a difference of 30 mag attack. Now we multiply 30 with 0,143 which means the lvl 45 fire imbue is 4,29% weaker than the lvl 45 fire imbue.
Let's say a lvl 45 with a lvl 45 fire imbue does 2000 dmg on anything, this means he will do 1914 dmg or 4,3% less dmg with the lvl 45 lightning imbue.
A quick calculation made clear that a lvl 45 cold imbue will do 1868 dmg or 6,6% less dmg.

You didn't expect the difference to be that small did you? 132 less dmg on a total of 2000 dmg may look like alot, but you won't notice it!

So what are the pro's on each imbue except dmg?

Fire has a burn effect, the probability of the effect is 25%.
This dmg is so low, you wont notice any difference when fighting normal mobs.


Lightning has a parrio ratio decrease effect, the probability is 20%.
Parrio ratio decrease increases the chance of doing max dmg on a monster, so after the effect of lightning imbue you will probably do the same dmg as when using the fire imbue or even more!


Lightning has another nice feature, it transfers dmg to mobs next to the mob you are attacking.
The distance depends on the lvl of the imbue (seen here with a maximum transfers of 2.
The damage is very low, but it will give the other mobs the parrio ratio down effect!


Cold also has 2 effects, the first effect is the frost bite effect, this will cause the enemy to attack very slow, click here to see a movie.
The probability of this effect is 25%.


Cold' 2nd effect is freezing, this will cause the enemy to freeze (the enemy won't be able to move at all) for a few seconds, the probability of this effect is 5%.


Pretty cool, so which imbue should I choose?
The other skills your main imbue force brings will be very important, which one you want depends on your personal choice. Here are the facts of each imbue (for more info check this, this and this):

Cold:
Frost bite probability.
Freezing probability.
High physical defense becouse of defense buff and defense passive.
Frost nova series, freeze (50% probability) or frost bite (100% probability) up to 5 enemies at once.
Cold wave series, frost bite an enemy over a distance (100% probability).

Lightning:
Damage increasement becouse of parrio ratio decreasement effect.
Imbue up to 12% powerfull (more dmg than fire) with maxed Piercing series.
You will be super fast becouse of grass walk series.
You will have a high parrio ratio becouse of Concentration series and Heaven's Force passive.

Fire:
Burn effect, not that powerfull.
When using shield you can have abnormal status' effect decrease.
Physical damage up to 7% increased (up to 5% should be possible if you choose an other main force)
Higher magical defense becouse of fire protection series.
Even more physical damage increasement due to Flame devil force passive (up to 6% more).

As you can see you could give up just a little bit of power to have a very speedy character or one with a very high def, like I said before, it's your personal choice!

Did you like this guide or did you hate it? Please vote here!

MAN ! THANX A BUNCH !
I think I'll stick 2 lightning cuz I'm a blader and the parry increase and the higher probability of a crit is just what I need

dunno but does this deserve a sticky ?

Jeronimo wrote:
dunno but does this deserve a sticky ?

I believe so.

Well i am a full str blade. i went with fire because bladers dmg is pretty low so 1 extra dmg for me is great..
Plus the mage defance you will get is pretty usfull for full str people.
also the buffs/passive from fire ment to be for phy builds.. more phy dmg.
I think lighting is for nukers or people that do dmg with their imbue. because they will do more dmg with lighting buffs.
Ice imo is usless even the high level buffs, a better armor will give you the same phy defence you get from ice. no more dmg buffs like in lighting and fire.
and everyday more people getting immune to ice.
I am blade a build for pvp so i car more about pvp than pve..
maybe lighting or ice is better than fire in pve but i don't care much about pve..
Edit:i think you are using low level imbus the higher level the imbue the more diff there is...
check the fire last book level 3 and ice last book level 3
Ice: 286~429
Lighting: 286~429
Fire: 351~584
While the 2nd book level 1 like you are using:
Ice: 50~76
Lighting:49~91
Fire: 62~103
No big dif there like when you get the last book.

Good guide dude. Job well done. Never expected to see so little difference in dmg. Makes me think about my fire imbue.. But then again, the burn effect will pay of in three digits later on.

Thx for the positive reply's

I would like to add this...

I think it's only worth upgrading your imbue becouse it will last 1 second longer every book. The dmg increasement is very, very low. I only gained an average of 20 dmg from upgrading lightning imbue book 1 lvl 1 to lightning imbue book 2 lvl 1...

@Priam true... but take a look at this (im giving examples...)

Lets say a hyongno ghost has 2500 hp, and burn does 40dmg per second to it, which is pretty useles becouse 40 hp is only 1,6%...

Now a bungwang has 7500 hp, and burn will do 200 dmg per second to it, still useless! The burn only does 2,6%!

Priam wrote:Good guide dude. Job well done. Never expected to see so little difference in dmg. Makes me think about my fire imbue.. But then again, the burn effect will pay of in three digits later on.

The difference will be bigger the higher level the imbue is..
So later on you will do more dmg than ice/lighting

chrissy wrote:Thx for the positive reply's

I would like to add this...

I think it's only worth upgrading your imbue becouse it will last 1 second longer every book. The dmg increasement is very, very low. I only gained an average of 20 dmg from upgrading lightning imbue book 1 lvl 1 to lightning imbue book 2 lvl 1...

Lighting imbue book 1 level 1 : 12~23
Lighting Imbue book 2 level 1: 49~91
Lighting imbue book 3 level 1: 118~220
Lighting Imbue book 4 level 1: 243~452
Do you think the lighting Imbue level 1 book 4 will do like 80 dmg more than book 1 level 1?
Like i said its not a fixed amount to add to your dmg each level..

Deadly EYez wrote:

chrissy wrote:Thx for the positive reply's

I would like to add this...

I think it's only worth upgrading your imbue becouse it will last 1 second longer every book. The dmg increasement is very, very low. I only gained an average of 20 dmg from upgrading lightning imbue book 1 lvl 1 to lightning imbue book 2 lvl 1...

Lighting imbue book 1 level 1 : 12~23
Lighting Imbue book 2 level 1: 49~91
Lighting imbue book 3 level 1: 118~220
Lighting Imbue book 4 level 1: 243~452
Do you think the lighting Imbue level 1 book 4 will do like 80 dmg more than book 1 level 1?
Like i said its not a fixed amount to add to your dmg each level..

I didnt say that i was only talking about book 1 vs book 2

chrissy wrote:

Deadly EYez wrote:

chrissy wrote:Thx for the positive reply's

I would like to add this...

I think it's only worth upgrading your imbue becouse it will last 1 second longer every book. The dmg increasement is very, very low. I only gained an average of 20 dmg from upgrading lightning imbue book 1 lvl 1 to lightning imbue book 2 lvl 1...

Lighting imbue book 1 level 1 : 12~23
Lighting Imbue book 2 level 1: 49~91
Lighting imbue book 3 level 1: 118~220
Lighting Imbue book 4 level 1: 243~452
Do you think the lighting Imbue level 1 book 4 will do like 80 dmg more than book 1 level 1?
Like i said its not a fixed amount to add to your dmg each level..

I didnt say that i was only talking about book 1 vs book 2

Its totaly worth it to level up your imbue even if you are str build..
Now you may not notice the difference but later on you will feel it..
Once i saw 2 bladers both level 70 wearing garment The last stab skill for bladers is only 1 level so they both have it maxed.
The fire blader your to do like 400 dmg more in it from the ice bladers..
400 dmg for bladers is a big deal =P

@Deadly EYez ofcourse the difference will be larger at higher lvls. But if your not planning to be lvl 70 (alot of ppl will but they won't reach this lvl) I think you can better save those extra sp's and use them for something else (READ: i said I think).

About the lvl 70 blader story... This says nothing, why?

- Their defense could be different, on the clothes and on the shield.
- Their weopons could have a different attack power.
- Imbue's and skills have a minimum and maximum attack power (318~389), so 1 blader could have done minimum damage and the othere one maximum.

I don't think there is someone playing this game and planning on staying low level xD.
Well anyways, this is a game. So play it the way you like it ^^..

chrissy wrote:@Deadly EYez ofcourse the difference will be larger at higher lvls. But if your not planning to be lvl 70 (alot of ppl will but they won't reach this lvl) I think you can better save those extra sp's and use them for something else (READ: i said I think).

About the lvl 70 blader story... This says nothing, why?

- Their defense could be different, on the clothes and on the shield.
- Their weopons could have a different attack power.
- Imbue's and skills have a minimum and maximum attack power (318~389), so 1 blader could have done minimum damage and the othere one maximum.

Well its not only 1 hit i noticed that.
I agree about the defence tho, but they both were using level 64+3 blades And level 64+3 shields.
Its just something i noticed. the ice bladers wasn't that strong as the fire one.
Also the fire one has the buffs/passive which will give him more dmg i know that.

Deadly EYez wrote:I don't think there is someone playing this game and planning on staying low level xD.
Well anyways, this is a game. So play it the way you like it ^^..

Thats true but alot of people will be stuck at lvl 50 or 40, some even lower. For those people I think and hope this guide is very usefull

Deadly EYez wrote:Ice imo is usless even the high level buffs, a better armor will give you the same phy defence you get from ice.

maybe but the higher lvl ice buffs are like an extra piece of armor so its not like you can either have the ice buff or a chest piece, its more like you can have all your high lvl armors and then on top of that you ahve your ice buff,

Very nice work dude. The only things I think they might distort a bit the study are:

1- The fact that you are pure str so that means that you mag dam is very low, therefore the effect of the imbue is minimized.

2- The fact you only run 30 shots, with the high variability that the damage has you should try a couple times more (Maybe 100).

I am lvl 62 and have my cold and fire imbue maxed at lvl 55 (sp farming sucks ) I will make the test myself today with 100 tries and as I am heavy hybrid int lets see what happens. I will post the results here.

well, it IS a help for str users, and if it proves out, it will help people choose their imbue better.

personally, i've always suspected that the damage difference for str users was almost insignificant. however, i'm WAY too lazy to actually test it out, so i'm glad somebody has.

the reason i always thought so was..... just watching other people fight(especially when someone hops on a giant at the same time as i do). normally, if another blader was attacking something with me, i would end up getting the loot, and the lion's share of exp. oh, and by the way, i'm ice. you know, the build that everyone says is a 'non-killing tank'.

if it happened once or twice, i'd say maybe they just had a crappy build, or maybe they were a bad player, etc. but it seemed to happen a LOT, so why should this be? my masteries were always at least 3-4 levels back, so it's not ike i had better skills than most my level. my equip was always average, never better than +3 on my weapon.

so...... where's that big difference? i dunno, but it always seemed that when i was leveling near a fire blader, they ended up taking just as much time to kill an enemy as me, and all i ever do is an imbue and a chain on normal enemies. it's not like i spam my strongest skills the whole time....

@Geobot i'd like to know your lvl...

I have a lvl 43 glavier but i can't test it on there since i dont have enough SP. Would be nice to know if the difference around those lvls is still the same.

Eilaan wrote:

Deadly EYez wrote:Ice imo is usless even the high level buffs, a better armor will give you the same phy defence you get from ice.

maybe but the higher lvl ice buffs are like an extra piece of armor so its not like you can either have the ice buff or a chest piece, its more like you can have all your high lvl armors and then on top of that you ahve your ice buff,

I think getting ice buffs is usfull only when you make it and max the passive..
otherwise i'd rather max grass walk and phantom

with the char you used were all the force mastary lvls the same because eac h lvl adds 1% more dmg so say you had lvl 30 light and lvl 35 fire thats 5% more damage in favor of fire. so what lvls were they

Ok, I made the test.

After shooting 50 times with fire and 50 times with ice to Bandits... Just plain shots I came to this conclusion:

Fire average damage: 3048
Ice average damage: 2919

So its only a 4.4% more damage.

Both test were made with a char with high mag balance (80%+) Both masteries were at 55 and the lvl was 62. And I was fully buffed all the time... Very interesting

Okay, it's been stated leveling imbue's isn't too big of a difference,(arguably or not, I don't care sthu ;O) But what about book 1 level to book 2 level 1?

chisy wrote:with the char you used were all the force mastary lvls the same because eac h lvl adds 1% more dmg so say you had lvl 30 light and lvl 35 fire thats 5% more damage in favor of fire. so what lvls were they

Yes all the masteries where the same lvl, didnt change any equipment or buffs during the test

chrissy wrote:
Now a bungwang has 7500 hp, and burn will do 200 dmg per second to it, still useless! The burn only does 2,6%!

acually bunwangs have somewhere between 3500-3800 hp ( i can 1 shot them with 3600 damage) so 200 burn damage would be 5.7%

beav wrote:

chrissy wrote:
Now a bungwang has 7500 hp, and burn will do 200 dmg per second to it, still useless! The burn only does 2,6%!

acually bunwangs have somewhere between 3500-3800 hp ( i can 1 shot them with 3600 damage) so 200 burn damage would be 5.7%

This proofs reading is very hard to some people...

chrissy wrote:(im giving examples...)

chrissy im not sure if you posted this or not...

but what are your ice, fire, and light levels?

Once you get 51+, you start noticing a big difference with burn damage. My Imbue is low level, yet it still burns 100+ damage.

Nice I still stay Fire but it's nice done with pictures and a movie.

superblur wrote:chrissy im not sure if you posted this or not...

but what are your ice, fire, and light levels?

Sorry I didn't post it but it is in a link in the text, all imbue's are book 2 lvl 1 and the lvls of the mastery were all lvl 25.