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i look thru the threads, thread titles, guides and tutorials and i see very little discussion about the ice skill series. why is ice so under-rated? Everywhere so far is either fire or light.

Because due to the [url="http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=12328"]fire shield being a %[/url] it makes it very easy to negate the freezing and frostbite effect.

i still dont understand what that means, care to explain using plain novice definitions ?

because with a 78% reduce from maxed fire shield, you only need 22% from jewelry to become immune and now that the new alchemy is here, it's just a matter of spending some money to get the reduction

damn so all this time ive been advancing my ice mastery tree for nothing. its only at level 20 but still waste of SP right?

its only wasted on the imbue and a few other skills. just get the buff and the passive and itll be worth it.

i really get tired of everybody saying that ice is useless. true, you can get
immunity to it, but that ONLY really matters in 1v1 PvP. in ALL other aspects
of the game, i'd take ice over the other two any day. i have an ice blader,
and i actually LIKE being able to grind for 3 hours without using a single HP
pot. i LIKE not having to worry about taking damage. i LIKE the fact that ice
is useful in group fights.

say what you will about it in 1v1, but the whole game doesn't revolve around
that. don't say it's totally useless and that the imbue is 'wasted SP', because
it's not. threads like this one are the reason everybody and their mom has a
build that's fire/light, and THAT, my friends, is sad.

no, you can never be immune to ice, it reduces but not immune. i was pvp my friend, hes lv 69m the other day and i frost bit even though he had fireshield and necklaces and earings with reduce.

PearlBow wrote:no, you can never be immune to ice, it reduces but not immune. i was pvp my friend, hes lv 69m the other day and i frost bit even though he had fireshield and necklaces and earings with reduce.

With this information, I have deduced that your PvP friend has a fire shield and jewelry reduction total of less than 100.

Sin wrote:

PearlBow wrote:no, you can never be immune to ice, it reduces but not immune. i was pvp my friend, hes lv 69m the other day and i frost bit even though he had fireshield and necklaces and earings with reduce.

With this information, I have deduced that your PvP friend has a fire shield and jewelry reduction total of less than 100.

Exactly

Geobot: I'm not saying ice is bad, in fact it's awesome for taking v ery little damage PVM and great in group PVP unless all your opponents are ice immune. I'm just saying, fire is good for a blader to milk as much damage as possible. I have ice imbue book 2 level 1 and I use it in situations in which I need to slow the opponent so he can't run away from my group of fighters or when I realize he's out of pills.

Geobot wrote:i really get tired of everybody saying that ice is useless. true, you can get
immunity to it, but that ONLY really matters in 1v1 PvP. in ALL other aspects
of the game, i'd take ice over the other two any day. i have an ice blader,
and i actually LIKE being able to grind for 3 hours without using a single HP
pot. i LIKE not having to worry about taking damage. i LIKE the fact that ice
is useful in group fights.

say what you will about it in 1v1, but the whole game doesn't revolve around
that. don't say it's totally useless and that the imbue is 'wasted SP', because
it's not. threads like this one are the reason everybody and their mom has a
build that's fire/light, and THAT, my friends, is sad.

Actually your post makes a lot of sense and i agree with your position. I thought that the previous poster that replied was talking about all aspects of the game and not only the pvp part.

I do share the same opinion as you, i like to freeze my enemies and just pound em without taking any damage.

cuchulainn wrote:Geobot: I'm not saying ice is bad, in fact it's awesome for taking v ery little damage PVM and great in group PVP unless all your opponents are ice immune. I'm just saying, fire is good for a blader to milk as much damage as possible. I have ice imbue book 2 level 1 and I use it in situations in which I need to slow the opponent so he can't run away from my group of fighters or when I realize he's out of pills.

yea, i know you aren't as biased as most on this aspect, i just wanted to make sure that he knew that, since there wasn't a single post in the thread saying ice was even decent. it's no biggie, i just hate to see people discouraged from a course immediately like that. better to try it out for yourself IMO.

A lot of people who aren't capped, or high lvl don't have ice immunity. So ice still works well against most people.

i wasnt talking about pve i meant in pvp. sorry for the misunderstanding. i use it in pve too. just very rarely in pvp.

ice is good but only if it is caramel flavoured in a milkshake
also its good to have some donuts with it

sometime sin SRO you can find donuts but u have to hunt hard at the yeohas - about 1 every 100 or so and also it ihas to be donut day (look for the donut cloud in the sky).


so ya i would only take ice tree for the stuff u can use against monters but always run when you get near high level ice immunes - cos then no matte rhow much ice cream u eat, ur basically dead moose.

Fire and Lightning are the main trees of the Bladers and all the STR users (fire gives big chunk of damage, lightning some parry ratio buffs and speed) along the weapon tree. Cold is a supportive tree and if you have the sp get them all. Cold buffs are nice for the defense and the frostbite, but they are not a must.

I hate that the glaivers spears and bows can use fire shield. This must be fixed

i really liked infact im getting the book with the ice imbue over the lighting so i become a fire/ice blader... so i slow down the enemy and give him extra burn damage lol its only in 1 on 1 pvp it doesnt do well.... so get another book... duh lol ice is cool though the amount of times its saved my life due to freezing the enemy has been awesome lol

everyone makes 100% reduce easy to get, its hard even with the tablets, i have used over 15 ice tablets and only have 25% reduction, and ppl think PVP is the whole game, but the real part of the game is going thieving, trading and hunting, this is where ice shows off, for example thieving, who ever thieves or hunts alone? maybe trading if ur desperate for gold but u nvr thief or hunt alone cz u will always die.

ice warrior you are too noob. it is easy to get. your at 25% reduction that is good enough. now go up your fire shield and let me know if you are immune

man seriously, do u kno how to make tablets success mre den fail, i have failed 13 tablets so hard, and my fire shield is maxed out, so i need another 50% reduce, so hard tog et i think i gonna use ice imbue for my str glavier. Like geo sed, this game doesnt revolve round pvp, most of time is put onto thieving,hunting or trading or training, mostly in groups. i very rarely do 1 on 1 pvp waste my pots.

Ice_Warrior wrote:man seriously, do u kno how to make tablets success mre den fail, i have failed 13 tablets so hard, and my fire shield is maxed out, so i need another 50% reduce, so hard tog et i think i gonna use ice imbue for my str glavier. Like geo sed, this game doesnt revolve round pvp, most of time is put onto thieving,hunting or trading or training, mostly in groups. i very rarely do 1 on 1 pvp waste my pots.

your fire shield is maxed, you already have 25% reduc and you're trying to get another 50%??

78% + 25% + 50% == 153%... and you claim you're not immune? Someone's bending the truth a little....

also, regarding your post before this, hunting, thieving, trading, guild warring and cape fighting ARE ALL PVP. It's the same stuff. Sure at lower lvls people won't be immune but pretty much everyone who finishes sp farming at 70 will be immune. Continuing to 80, they'll still be immune... and so on.

I had ice too. I had to switch... your rationale for sticking with ice in terms of pvp is that it's good against unfinished/unpolished builds. You'll never stand a chance against complete ones. I'm not trying to flame you or anything - like i said i had ice too. It's unfortunately now mostly useless. The only thing it's good for is slowing down people's transports or wolves... and those can be pilled nowadays too.

I'm referring strictly to PVP here btw.

Ice_Warrior wrote:man seriously, do u kno how to make tablets success mre den fail, i have failed 13 tablets so hard, and my fire shield is maxed out, so i need another 50% reduce, so hard tog et i think i gonna use ice imbue for my str glavier. Like geo sed, this game doesnt revolve round pvp, most of time is put onto thieving,hunting or trading or training, mostly in groups. i very rarely do 1 on 1 pvp waste my pots.

Thieving hunting and trading ARE PVP.

What level are you? A lower level fire shield needs more jewelry, but TBH, you prolly shouldn't bother trying to get freeze immune until you're at least 45+

PVP = player vs player means 1 on 1 with capes, thieving = job wars = group fighting not PVP, and maxed out fire shield gives 78 staus reduce NOT %, book 4 imbue has around 150 status effect so 150- 78 is around 50%, so please get ur facts right before you argue like this, at no point of the fire shield it has % in it.

It has allready been proven several times that fire shield is in fact a perceantage. So don't start this arguement again. Cuchulain is right.

Priam.

i am using maxed out shield right now and it doesnt give 78% reduce it gives around 50% or so, which only allows u to use lower lvl pills or able to pill faster.

Ice_Warrior wrote:i am using maxed out shield right now and it doesnt give 78% reduce it gives around 50% or so, which only allows u to use lower lvl pills or able to pill faster.

What level is your fire shield?

By maxed out fire shield, we mean Book 4

And once again, Fire Shield is a %

And PVP=Player v. Player

Most people consider job wars, guild wars, etc as PVP since, you know, it's players v. players.

PVP = player vs player means 1 on 1 with capes, thieving = job wars = group fighting not PVP

A job war its still actualy called pvp

1vs1 or 1on1 , or simply 1-1 is like a cape duel 1 player vs another player

guild wars are still pvp , there is no mobs fighting for you in your guild is there ?


stop distorting the meaning of words

after reading these golden replies, i have to ask some questions.
do you have your ice resist jewels equiped?
do you actually use the fire shield buff, or have you just learnt it?
stupid questions, i know. but if you have 25% from jewels and 78% from fire shield, you must be immune to ice

"PVP = player vs player means 1 on 1 with capes" : lamo

sry for sarcasm

lol ice warrior stop making posts trying to prove that ice is good
ice=useless
fact.

klaus wrote:lol ice warrior stop making posts trying to prove that ice is good
ice=useless
fact.

cant agree with you either. in my opinion, as long as there are some player who are not immune, the ice imbue is still more uselful then any other one. (for str chars. not speaking of nuker of course)