I was planning to make a Int bow on zszc simply because I wanted a fast leveler to begin with. I'm not terribly into 1v1 pvp, so I dont worry much about dying. My main question is what build would be better, ice/light or fire/ice? I understand the benefits of both builds, I just cant decide which benefit will be more useful. Any ideas? Thx.
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:18 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
light'd give you speed, the mag. attack buff and double ghost walk since you can use the 2 skills back to back
Fire on the other hand would give you immunity mag. defence fire wall 3 different nukes
light would cost you less, deal decent damage and be awesome when attacking multiple opponents. If you care more about lvling quickly and the money(though that shouldn't be a poblem with 30x rates), you can go with light
Fire would give you the pvp advantages of having some more defence and being ice immune. You'd have a more costly build, money and sp wise, but with the extra defence and immunity you'd be better at pvp while staying a formidable leveler
I went the ice/light build after going through the same delimma, turned out to be quite good.
edit: but what build will it be? full int or hybrid?
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:37 pm
by Phenom_
Hmm I've never been able to manage a hybrid well, but if i could figure out how to not mess up the stat points, I'd be into it. I was somewhat leaning towards ice/light, and your vid helps xD
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:32 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
For the balance, just compare hybrids to full str or full int at the cap with the nivlam stat tool.
Take a look at the phys/mag. and hp/mp balance you like and either keep it like that by: distributing a certain amount of stat points in calculated intervalls (1:2 hybrid would be 1 str 2int every lvl lol) or keeping the naked balance the same as the one you chose.
pretty simple really. And don't worry about messing a bit with stat points, you can also go another hybrid build till you decide if you like it or not. You just have to make up your mind early, so that you don't have to stick with a build you hate for too long.
Spoiler!
About the damage..full int will give you a higher chance of 1 hitting monsters because of the higher damage, but you will be using at least 2 bow skills with crit enhancement all the time which usually closes the damage gap of hybrid/full int. (unless you are fighting mobs you can't even kill with 2 hits, then it's best to use the strongest attacks you have->strong bow- Explosion Arrow Series).
Phenom_ wrote:I was somewhat leaning towards ice/light, and your vid helps xD
the build is perfect for the situation showed in the vid, that is why i chose light over fire. Fire is for less spawns and opponents with pesky effects.
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:14 pm
by XMoshe
Fck it, go pure str lol...You grind with 30x rates so you will be 64+ in no time dammit.
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:16 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
it seems he wants to be 64++ in less than no time
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:25 pm
by XMoshe
Meh, some hybrid int with Pach/Fire maxed and Ice/Light mix then...Just don't go pure int bow lol
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:46 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
well if he wants to start pvping he can easily dlvl bow and go spear or s/s if he thinks bow isn't good enough. (instead of starting over)
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:45 pm
by XMoshe
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:well if he wants to start pvping he can easily dlvl bow and go spear or s/s if he thinks bow isn't good enough. (instead of starting over)
True enough, gold is easy to get and you'll gain them fast with increased droprate (if that also works for quest items)
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:31 am
by Zyphir
XMoshe wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:well if he wants to start pvping he can easily dlvl bow and go spear or s/s if he thinks bow isn't good enough. (instead of starting over)
True enough, gold is easy to get and you'll gain them fast with increased droprate (if that also works for quest items)
I don't believe quest items drop as much as regular items in ZSZC. I did the inventory expansion at lvl 60, and I got about 1 quest item drop once every 10/15 monsters.
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:16 pm
by Phenom_
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:well if he wants to start pvping he can easily dlvl bow and go spear or s/s if he thinks bow isn't good enough. (instead of starting over)
That is a good point that I'm sort of liking. Level up with bow for its speed, than reskill for a more pvp oriented build later on. And to Moshe, I prolly wont keep it pure just to give me a better chance in pvp. Any suggestions on a hybrid ratio if i were to go spear?
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:09 pm
by XMoshe
Zyphir wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:well if he wants to start pvping he can easily dlvl bow and go spear or s/s if he thinks bow isn't good enough. (instead of starting over)
True enough, gold is easy to get and you'll gain them fast with increased droprate (if that also works for quest items)
I don't believe quest items drop as much as regular items in ZSZC. I did the inventory expansion at lvl 60, and I got about 1 quest item drop once every 10/15 monsters.
That sounds about right with a 30x rate rofl. Try the lvl 60 quest in isro, it's a pain the in ass. I did the lvl 5 quest and IIRC they did drop more often than on isro.
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:11 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
Phenom_ wrote:Any suggestions on a hybrid ratio if i were to go spear?
normally between 1:5 and 1:8 depending on wether you went fire or light (1:5 more for fire, light the 1:8)
of course the more str you set, the less nukes matter, but in pvp they really won't.
Spoiler!
at 110 the builds would look like this
comparison
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Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:44 pm
by Phenom_
Damn lol, Thx Pan I appreciate you laying it out so clear xD
Re: ZSZC Build?
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:07 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
np, and for the skill change there was a bug to replicate the silk items (would mean skill resuscitation potions(requires a friend))
you can ask around if that bug still exists before deciding wether you just want to go through the cursed hearts quest or not.