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Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:49 pm
by SymphonyX
So I haz a glavier, been ice the whole way, and im debating on changing to light, or keeping ice.
The way I see it, Ice builds die easy anyway for a glavier.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:03 pm
by JoyFax
pvp - ice
rest - light
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:25 pm
by SymphonyX
Well like I said, I find that ice build dies easy anyways
And like you said anything other then pvp is light. I kinda want like reasons i guess of going this or that besides the obvious
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:51 pm
by XMoshe
Fire/Cold combo for pure str's is the strongest one you can have..If you die easy with maxed ice (by other str chars that is) you probably got shitty gear. I would stay Ice if you enjoy pvp once in a while.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:53 pm
by JoyFax
SymphonyX wrote:Well like I said, I find that ice build dies easy anyways
And like you said anything other then pvp is light. I kinda want like reasons i guess of going this or that besides the obvious
if with ice you die easy then the problem is your gear... weapon-fire-ice is considered the best for str in terms of pvp
reason:
- you have both walls
- high mag defense from garm+fire and high phys defense from ice + the fact you're str
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:31 am
by Phenom_
SymphonyX wrote:Well like I said, I find that ice build dies easy anyways
And like you said anything other then pvp is light. I kinda want like reasons i guess of going this or that besides the obvious
If you are dying too easy with a glavier, that has fire and ice, wouldnt it make sense that you will only die more easily when you have less defense?
Wont really solve any problem. Ice is its strongest at level 100, adds a huge amount of defense.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:05 am
by Snazzi
Phenom_ wrote:SymphonyX wrote:Well like I said, I find that ice build dies easy anyways
And like you said anything other then pvp is light. I kinda want like reasons i guess of going this or that besides the obvious
If you are dying too easy with a glavier, that has fire and ice, wouldnt it make sense that you will only die more easily when you have less defense?
Wont really solve any problem. Ice is its strongest at level 100, adds a huge amount of defense.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:13 am
by S3by
Fire/Light , u need to be agile .
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:02 am
by sn1kzZe
there could be many things for your reasons, you maybe not switching to shield or just dont know how to play it right.
but no way in hell changing to light would make you survive longer.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:29 am
by KingFille
If u know this game well I would recommand force.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:31 pm
by JoyFax
KingFille wrote:If u know this game well I would recommand force.
he dies too much with glavie-fire-ice, that answers it
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:57 pm
by SymphonyX
100 +5 chest
99+7 hood
96+5 pants
99+5 feet
98+5 hands
sos +5 necklace and ring
98+7 ring
95+6 earings
All FB
So far worth prasing I beat a s/s nuker lvl 102 with SoN +5 sword fb, 101+8 shield, SoN +5 pants
And s/s nuker +5 s/s with SoN +6 chest
I'm just wondering, if its worth switching to light. Alot of the oldschool players on my server that I've asked say I should switch to light
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:10 pm
by XMoshe
With a set like that I don't see why you would die often. Only reason you could go light is if you are in need of sp and don't want to farm so much. But if you can stay ice or go even force, just forget about light, it's not worth it.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:11 am
by Phenom_
SymphonyX wrote:100 +5 chest
99+7 hood
96+5 pants
99+5 feet
98+5 hands
sos +5 necklace and ring
98+7 ring
95+6 earings
All FB
So far worth prasing I beat a s/s nuker lvl 102 with SoN +5 sword fb, 101+8 shield, SoN +5 pants
And s/s nuker +5 s/s with SoN +6 chest
I'm just wondering, if its worth switching to light. Alot of the oldschool players on my server that I've asked say I should switch to light
I remember my GM from 90 cap was a fire/light glavier, and it seems alot of older players were that way due to ice not being as great back then. But with the addition of higher defense passives and buffs (Final Guard of ice) I feel the opinion has shifted in favor of ice. But if you have made the choice for light, then nobody is really going to be able to talk you out of it, and you should go with your favorite.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:19 pm
by SymphonyX
Okay well thanks for your advice everyone. From ice only thing i use is ice guard, passive, and snow <-(rarely). With light i can get better parry + better dmg rather then just better phy.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:29 pm
by XMoshe
Unless you take it for sp reasons you will regret light later. Ice is so much better, go lvl ice wall and use it against int chinese chars or warriors and you will see ice is great.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:56 pm
by SymphonyX
Might get 20 ice for the lulz. Ice wall does seem to help some i.e rogue pricks lol. Most nukers take down ice wall fairly easy though, I usually stick to fire wall for them
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:04 pm
by XMoshe
I got the wall maxed and it takes like like 2/3 combo's to take it down, that's 2/3 combo's of no chance for stats (besides bleed, that somehow gets through ice wall). Maxing light is stupid, if you take light either go 90/20 or 80/30 light/ice >.<
But really I wouldn't change, Ice's def buff+passive, wall, and snow is alot better than some parry and a little bit of mag dmg increase.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:20 am
by BuDo
To win the fight you have to be in control of the situation...ice IS control
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:02 am
by Snazzi
Yeah, you're doing something wrong if you're dying with that set, and a shitload of defense from ice.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:37 am
by Dancin
GET LIGHT!!!!!!!
You are a bower and you have range skills. If you get light (ghost walk) you cn always be out of range from enemies because you are faster than them they can't reach you while you shoot on them.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:16 pm
by omier
Dancin wrote:GET LIGHT!!!!!!!
You are a bower and you have range skills. If you get light (ghost walk) you cn always be out of range from enemies because you are faster than them they can't reach you while you shoot on them.
Lol?
The name of the topic is: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light.
Wrong topic?
But about these builds, get ice or 80/30 light/ice.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:49 pm
by Dancin
omier44 wrote:Dancin wrote:GET LIGHT!!!!!!!
You are a bower and you have range skills. If you get light (ghost walk) you cn always be out of range from enemies because you are faster than them they can't reach you while you shoot on them.
Lol?
The name of the topic is: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light.
Wrong topic?
But about these builds, get ice or 80/30 light/ice.
uhh right -_-
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:42 am
by 360apples
Keep ice light is just
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:57 pm
by CloudySasuke
360apples wrote:Keep ice light is just
What he said.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:14 pm
by TillTheEnd
SymphonyX wrote:100 +5 chest
99+7 hood = worst then 101+4
96+5 pants = worst then 101+0
99+5 feet = worst then 101+2
98+5 hands = worst then 101+1
sos +5 necklace and ring = failed
98+7 ring = worst then 101+3
95+6 earings = fail
All FB
So far worth prasing I beat a s/s nuker lvl 102 with SoN +5 sword fb, 101+8 shield, SoN +5 pants
And s/s nuker +5 s/s with SoN +6 chest
I'm just wondering, if its worth switching to light. Alot of the oldschool players on my server that I've asked say I should switch to light
basically most of the times u'll get rape by any1 using 101+5 weapon/set....the most important part are you accessory and u have 95+6....
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Sat May 15, 2010 7:04 pm
by 360apples
SymphonyX wrote:100 +5 chest
99+7 hood
96+5 pants
99+5 feet
98+5 hands
sos +5 necklace and ring
98+7 ring
95+6 earings
All FB
So far worth prasing I beat a s/s nuker lvl 102 with SoN +5 sword fb, 101+8 shield, SoN +5 pants
And s/s nuker +5 s/s with SoN +6 chest
I'm just wondering, if its worth switching to light. Alot of the oldschool players on my server that I've asked say I should switch to light
theres no build that can keep you from sucking..
srsly wtf is light gonna do other than make you run around faster? wat r you gonna do run away lol? suure it gives a slight magic increase but thats all.. Ice gives you MORE defense which will give you a
NOTICEABLE edge in pvp while light only gives you speed
Hesukal/Fire/Ice is pretty rape in pvp i tried my friends that was level 100 with only a +3 set and i could easily kill players 1-2 levels higher than me with +5 sets
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:14 pm
by omier
And as for the parry that light gives, just pimp the parry of ur gear and light doesn't matter.
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:19 am
by AngelDust
this cap i switch from heuksal/light/fire to heuksal/cold/fire
cold is much better in pvm, pvp, group pvp, jobbing. i have both walls and mega high phy def against the noob-waggon joined warrior/clerics :p
and atm i lvl up my ice imbue to freeze mobs in my pt :p
-just 4 fun
Re: Glaive: Fire/Ice? Or Fire/Light
Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:49 pm
by pikachu
ice