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bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:10 pm
by zico
hi guyz
One new poll for you....as i'm powerfarming two noobs (one chin and one euro ) im still tryin to chose between warrior or rogue clric for the euro one but for chinese im sure ill make a bowman pure str....the begin of dilemna starts here
which kind of bowman..?
i had a 90 90 90 30 pacheon fire light cold by the past but gave it to my friend...now im tempted by a Pacheon fire cold, i want a good and strong build
any suggestions write it or no just vote
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:02 pm
by MeNii_
i love force
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:05 pm
by Buddhist
MeNii_ wrote:i love force
Yeah we all know that, you tell us in every single topic.

Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:10 pm
by XMoshe
Buddhist wrote:MeNii_ wrote:i love force
Yeah we all know that, you tell us in every single topic.

Why isn't he banned yet lol..
110 Pach/Force, 90 Fire, 20 Ice is an option if you want bit more def with snow and less sp cost.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:28 pm
by Destro
XMoshe wrote:Buddhist wrote:MeNii_ wrote:i love force
Yeah we all know that, you tell us in every single topic.

Why isn't he banned yet lol..
110 Pach/Force, 90 Fire, 20 Ice is an option if you want bit more def with snow and less sp cost.
+1 for 110 Pach/Force, 90 Fire, 20 Ice. i dont think that u ll be better than 110 fire since mag. defence buff increasement between 90 - 110 will be huge. But 90 fire 20 cold will definitely cost much less sp.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:34 pm
by MeNii_
lol why you want me in ban? -.-'
and who cares if you know. he dont know

Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:00 am
by XMoshe
MeNii_ wrote:lol why you want me in ban? -.-'
and who cares if you know. he dont know

Cuz you're a remade account but w/ ever.
110/110/90/20 is 828k from 100 ffed next to 1.4mil for 110/110/110
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:12 am
by Snazzi
XMoshe wrote:MeNii_ wrote:lol why you want me in ban? -.-'
and who cares if you know. he dont know

Cuz you're a remade account but w/ ever.
110/110/90/20 is 828k from 100 ffed next to 1.4mil for 110/110/110
Agreed, I was thinking the exact same thing about him lols. Idk about the sp requirements (They will be sh
it, but I would either go pacheon, fire, cold or what Moshey said - 110/110/90/20, and have maybe 90 force, 20 cold. I wouldn't bother going 90 light - Barely any differece between 80.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:04 am
by XMoshe
Kah00ner wrote:XMoshe wrote:MeNii_ wrote:lol why you want me in ban? -.-'
and who cares if you know. he dont know

Cuz you're a remade account but w/ ever.
110/110/90/20 is 828k from 100 ffed next to 1.4mil for 110/110/110
Agreed, I was thinking the exact same thing about him lols. Idk about the sp requirements (They will be sh
it, but I would either go pacheon, fire, cold or what Moshey said - 110/110/90/20, and have maybe 90 force, 20 cold. I wouldn't bother going 90 light - Barely any differece between 80.
110 Force/90 Fire, what use has 90 force on 100/110 chars -_-
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:06 pm
by MeNii_
330/330 mastery
110force 110fire 110weapon -.-' you dont need cold mastery if you have good set and know how to play.
who cares if i remade new account .. what is your problems?
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:47 pm
by Buddhist
I don't really think that force will be that good @ 110. It's just common sense, the higher the level cap the higher the output damage. It means snow shield will be more useful. Just because your build is fire/force MeNii_ you don't have to prove that you have the best build plus you can beat anyone with that. And I think what XMoshe said is the best build for a bower.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:58 pm
by MeNii_
make force 90? debuffs lvl 9 is not work on D10 D11 players
resist 24/7 -.-' cold/light is normaly players who afraid lose defence , but they dont understand that the "advantage" of good phy defence get "disadvatage" when i , you , force build shot decay ^^..
i dont had the best build , every build is fine just need to know how to play on him..dont say things that i never said.
look , i think i know what you mean that everything is get upgrade. like cold phy + passive will get better. if cold mastery lvl 80 was at all 162 , and cold mastery lvl 100 was at all 336 phy defence its always upgrade.. and get better
but you forget that how the mag/phy/snow get upgrade
the force debuffs get upgrade too.
for example if decay at lvl 60 descrease -152 phy defence
decay lvl 100 descrease -534
so decay in 110 will decrease upgrade too = ]
so think about it.. and more something
cold player lvl 100 have +336 phy defence right?
decay lvl 10 decrease -534
336-534 = -198 phy defence for cold player!
sorry for bad english
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:38 pm
by XMoshe
MeNii_ wrote:330/330 mastery
110force 110fire 110weapon -.-' you dont need cold mastery if you have good set and know how to play.
who cares if i remade new account .. what is your problems?
The fact that it's against the rules? And I never really used it on my archer but having 20% snowshield is nice for when you get ganged or you suddenly has to fight some sun+7 wep users, even force can't always save your ass then, or what about immune euro's?
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:50 am
by Snazzi
XMoshe wrote:MeNii_ wrote:330/330 mastery
110force 110fire 110weapon -.-' you dont need cold mastery if you have good set and know how to play.
who cares if i remade new account .. what is your problems?
The fact that it's against the rules? And I never really used it on my archer but having 20% snowshield is nice for when you get ganged or you suddenly has to fight some sun+7 wep users, even force can't always save your ass then, or what about immune euro's?
That's why you take 110 cold

Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:05 am
by MeNii_
XMoshe wrote:MeNii_ wrote:330/330 mastery
110force 110fire 110weapon -.-' you dont need cold mastery if you have good set and know how to play.
who cares if i remade new account .. what is your problems?
The fact that it's against the rules? And I never really used it on my archer but having 20% snowshield is nice for when you get ganged or you suddenly has to fight some sun+7 wep users, even force can't always save your ass then, or what about immune euro's?
that only noobs who cant tank without snow XD..
i know many Strs that die while snow,
and for sure after snow..
i guess you one of them >.<"
the suns weapon of today [d10] is not the sun weapons of d9 d8 that you had no chance vs them. i know much noob sunners that players with +7 does more damage.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:26 am
by XMoshe
Lol, you don't know me mate so don't call me weak

I could tank perfectly without snow but it's nice to have some extra defense when you get ganged, and the dmg wasn't even that much lower. Besides for legits (

) it's a nice sp save.
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:41 am
by Snazzi
Don't argue with him Moshe, he'll be gone soon. With a good set, I see a lot of people pvping without snow. Sometimes it isn't even useful lols - but can also win the fight for you

Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:37 pm
by Amaterasu
wrong..
Force > Cold...
for my experience i got characters with that build...
Force debuff is stronger than cold defence.. And force have stun.. which can make you stop attacking and waste your snow...
So dont think that force is not good... its very good now since it got stun... If stun wasnt in force.. then i wouldnt pick force..
this for pure STR
BLADER/FORCE/Fire = ultimate attack nonestop debuff tanker
PACHEON/FORCE/FIRE = insane Killer..
But this for hybrid str..
BICHEON/COLD/FORCE= best one ever. for tanking plus debuff Killer
PACHEON/LIGHT/FORCE and 20 snow.. make 90 light...
And many people from Ksro and Jsro also uses force alot. Its because they know how to beat people with it.. Only if you know what your doing..
I know that Cold defence is not alot.. Its a little bit..
Re: bowman best choice
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:54 am
by zico
gonna try to make pacheon fire cold 110 one...thx all for opinions