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Hi im planning to make to make an cleric to use it in guild partys / job / pvp / fw later and to lvl with maybe 2-3 guys but i dont know what skills to take and what to leave and what armor to take enz ....

if i take all the skills maxed untill lvl 110 it will cost me 1.2 mil sp.

Wear Light Armor because the passives. giving you more defence

Cleric-None sub - wont work slow lvls , nice only in party.

if you want my answer what is the best Cleric/Healer/Helper in wars
is Warrior-Cleric.

Screens+Bleed+WarriorBuff[if needed]
Str-Cleric - huge tank when he wear a cleric+shield and put buffs on himself


skills:

make a search in forum.

i was thinking maybe lvl war to get the shield bash skil and take bard for noise / moving speed

If you make a full str Warrior/Cleric then the only use of your cleric sub will be for bless. Your heals will heal so little that you will be rendered useless as a healer. If you want to take a support build and will be leveling in parties, I suggest Bard/Cleric. It's also the least SP hungry build.

adhdtje wrote:i was thinking maybe lvl war to get the shield bash skil and take bard for noise / moving speed

idk, I hear that if you're going to take 10 warrior something else has to go.

Cleric with bard sub is pure support and you should have better chances at parties. Light armor for the passives, for sure.

edit: I went bard/cleric in robes myself, limited cleric skillz.

come to iris, a support cleric/bard is always welcome

i didnt said Bard-Cleric
because he is Int char ^^......can die very fast in JOBS/WARS

that why i gave you cleric-warrior, more tanker more hp
and he have screens too :p

If you go with 10 warrior, get a gap 5. Bard 10 lvls underlvled is crap because of the noise wont work at the monsters where you train. The 10% speed is no problem.

MeNii wrote:i didnt said Bard-Cleric
because he is Int char ^^......can die very fast in JOBS/WARS

that why i gave you cleric-warrior, more tanker more hp
and he have screens too :p

Ok, to be safe, let him decide.

Int, cleric=main. low hp, lots of good buffs, very needed in group PVP and trade runs for bless/res/int/str/mag/phys defense buffs. Because heals depend on your int, higher int = better heals. Buffs less so. There are not many "pure" clerics around, almost everyone does a sub of some type. You *could* do bard sub for speed and noise and just not take the nukes. Robes for MP.

Str, cleric=sub. better hp, still good buffs, you will not use all the buffs nearly as much, but bless/res will be very handy. Not nearly as good a healer. Warrior/cleric is pure tanker, doesn't kill quite as fast in PVE. Light armor with passives.

i think it will be pure int couse i only use it for job and support just to help my friends/guildies but anyway ty for all the reply's

_Equal_ wrote:

MeNii wrote:i didnt said Bard-Cleric
because he is Int char ^^......can die very fast in JOBS/WARS

that why i gave you cleric-warrior, more tanker more hp
and he have screens too :p

Ok, to be safe, let him decide.

Int, cleric=main. low hp, lots of good buffs, very needed in group PVP and trade runs for bless/res/int/str/mag/phys defense buffs. Because heals depend on your int, higher int = better heals. Buffs less so. There are not many "pure" clerics around, almost everyone does a sub of some type. You *could* do bard sub for speed and noise and just not take the nukes. Robes for MP.

Str, cleric=sub. better hp, still good buffs, you will not use all the buffs nearly as much, but bless/res will be very handy. Not nearly as good a healer. Warrior/cleric is pure tanker, doesn't kill quite as fast in PVE. Light armor with passives.

Cleric Str and Cleric Int is same buffs and same heal.
i said go Str because he can survive a bit more and he have more useful things as a "support" char.

Str-Cleric is good tanker , now Cleric+What?
i say warrior , why warrior because the screens and warrior buffs he have.

so i think the best "support" char is warrior-cleric

Survive - yes
Defence buffs?
-Warrior Buffs
-Bless str int defences holyspell/word
-Screens

Bard-Cleric
Survive - dont think so he is Int char , in PVP WARS can die very quick and be not so useful.
Defence buffs?
-Bless str int defences holyspell/word
-Dances+speed

i explain it good now ?

Cleric Str and Cleric Int is same buffs and same heal.

Well, I remember a coworker telling me differently, so I searched and found the thread he tested in that seems to prove Int heals more than Str.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=109585&start=0

Anyway, I guess it's all moot, he can choose str warr/cleric if he wants, or go bard/cleric int if he wants.

I won't go offtopic any more

_Equal_ wrote:

Cleric Str and Cleric Int is same buffs and same heal.

Well, I remember a coworker telling me differently, so I searched and found the thread he tested in that seems to prove Int heals more than Str.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=109585&start=0

Anyway, I guess it's all moot, he can choose str warr/cleric if he wants, or go bard/cleric int if he wants.

I won't go offtopic any more

you mean this ->?
Holy Group Recovery+Holy Recovery
Weapon magical atatck power 300% reflect

i think its about the X~Y on the weapon , not in the damage he does.

never tested it =]

is it an option to be int or hybrid cleric and take only the warrior buffs but not be full str? i dont know if that will work

My personal opinion is that since you're a cleric, you want the int to be higher for damage and heals. Hybrid clerics - meh - think they are rare. I have seen people take 10 warrior for shield trash, but that's mainly for pvp, and they still typically go int.

light armor.

for healing, the whole recovery line with the "group" ones from the blessed recovery line.

but, unless u have a good warrior in your pt, i strongly recomend u to be str-cleric. maybe xbow (for soloing if needed) + cleric will do the job pretty great with a bard at your side.

str cleric with bard orbit is better than int cleric with warrior buffs, for pvp/gvg/fw/job/etc.

Hm, either you or your warriors seem to be quite bad, if you need so much HP/defense as cleric to go str or hybrid. When i am cleric i sometimes don't even get a single hit, if everything is running fine and i still don't have any problems to keep the whole pt alive at monsters around 10-15 levels higher than pt-average.

Kronos wrote:Hm, either you or your warriors seem to be quite bad, if you need so much HP/defense as cleric to go str or hybrid. When i am cleric i sometimes don't even get a single hit, if everything is running fine and i still don't have any problems to keep the whole pt alive at monsters around 10-15 levels higher than pt-average.

please tell me that wasnt for me.
coz as far as i know, i NEVER mentioned a lvling party.

but i wont use it to solo i only use it to help out my guild members so i think i will go str from now on and take the cleric skills and the warrior screens