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Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:47 am
by _c0nflict_
hey guys,
i wanna make a glaive with force build, but idk where to start. Do i go 100 fir 100 force 100 heuk?
opinions please!
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:50 am
by Tasdik
Yeah that's a good force build.
Although tbh, and don't let me talk you out of it if you really want to go for it, I don't think 100 force is anywhere as good as say, 100 ice. Just my opinion though. = )
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:21 am
by Crowley
I agree with Tasdik, but if force is the way you want to go, choose 100 Fire/Heuksal/Force
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:23 am
by XMoshe
I'm not sure for Glaives, but my Force bower is stronger than a bower with 100 Ice ^^
It's a good build, if you want to save sp you could go 80Fire/20Ice instead of a bit more def from snow but that's up to you. I'd say go for it.
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:42 pm
by DropOut
Force glaive > ice glaive anytime
I had a ice glaive and changed to force. Force is so much stronger I would never wanna go back to ice. Wear a pro set and you will be fine.
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:50 pm
by Tasdik
So I'm curious about force now since you two seem to prefer it over ice.
Are the debuffs the only really good thing about force? Or are the heals and Force Cure helpful as well?
Enlighten me. = )
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:01 pm
by DropOut
Heals arn't really usefull but the force cure series is very usefull. You can remove all the debuffs in about 1 sec and you can do it non stop. The MP inc is also very usefull if you got snow.
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:02 pm
by XMoshe
Tasdik wrote:So I'm curious about force now since you two seem to prefer it over ice.
Are the debuffs the only really good thing about force? Or are the heals and Force Cure helpful as well?
Enlighten me. = )
Heals are nice but useless in pvp (especially the last and 2nd to last book since they heal yourself (if you target yourself ofcourse) and the closest person near you, which is obviously your opponent in pvp.
Force cure means basically you don't need pills, you can still use pills in addition but it's not needed.
But yes the biggest reason you take force is because of the debuffs, which are totally worth it.
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:21 pm
by Tasdik
XMoshe wrote:Tasdik wrote:So I'm curious about force now since you two seem to prefer it over ice.
Are the debuffs the only really good thing about force? Or are the heals and Force Cure helpful as well?
Enlighten me. = )
Heals are nice but useless in pvp (especially the last and 2nd to last book since they heal yourself (if you target yourself ofcourse) and the closest person near you, which is obviously your opponent in pvp.
Baha that sucks xDForce cure means basically you don't need pills, you can still use pills in addition but it's not needed.
But yes the biggest reason you take force is because of the debuffs, which are totally worth it.
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:14 pm
by _c0nflict_
lol thanks guys. I have had a few characters that had ice, but ive actually never tried force before, so thats what piqued my interest.
but a prot set? =( i wanted garms, they are sexy
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:39 am
by -.-
you could go blade/galvie/fire
blade has kd and debuffs too
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:54 am
by XMoshe
_c0nflict_ wrote:lol thanks guys. I have had a few characters that had ice, but ive actually never tried force before, so thats what piqued my interest.
but a prot set? =( i wanted garms, they are sexy
Using garms on my Archer cuz of 80 Fire and I'm doing fine against str builds, yes they hurt but nothing Impotent can't fix : )
Re: Force with Glaive!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:08 pm
by larrylhm
In my opinion, the best weapon to go Force is Blader.
Why?
Shields provide a constant increase of def which will make up for some of the def lost by neglecting Ice. Debuffs from the attack skills are very useful too as it can further help with your damage, combined with debuffs from Force...
Force Blader > Force Bower/Force Glavier
but no matter what, in 1v1 pvp, Force > Ice in case of STR characters.
INT chars shld never get Force