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100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:08 am
by srf_frs
Kinda between 2 builds, currently lvl 72, I have 4 masterys atm, dropping 1 soon. I dont want ice/light/bich nuke. Which would be more intresting from these two?

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:12 am
by XMoshe
A full force nuker is just fail IMO, you can only stand there and nuke. Sure you got great damage with light/fire and good def using snow from ice. But then when snow is over? You're a sitting duck, no kd/kb/stats/phy def/mag def or what ever you get from either bicheon or heuksal.

I'd go for the 100 Ice/Fire/Bich build then. Unless you're hybrid, then I recommend a mix from Ice/light together with 100 Fire/Bich.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 2:57 pm
by czx
a full force nuker is not fail
its just not 1v1 material
its most common nuker in csro/ksro tho,
its for unique hunting and mass pvp such as guild war or fortress...

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:17 pm
by XMoshe
In group pvp you usually have a warrior/cleric and shit. I don't see a full force nuker as a threat when you got a cleric healing.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:57 pm
by Imagine
ohh god full force nuker is win, i remember one of my guildmates being full force pvping vs 100 str bow, he almost always won cause his nukes were devastating 20k or more depending with DS or not.. that build is awesome, but go normal build if u wanna survive

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:25 am
by XMoshe
Imagine wrote:ohh god full force nuker is win, i remember one of my guildmates being full force pvping vs 100 str bow, he almost always won cause his nukes were devastating 20k or more depending with DS or not.. that build is awesome, but go normal build if u wanna survive


You don't need to be full force nuker to do 20k nukes lol...The bower probably used prot. He could easily survive by just using fire wall/kb perhaps snow if he has it. When the nukers snow is out he's dead.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:17 pm
by srf_frs
Good arguments, any1 else?

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:59 pm
by ranqeg0d1
XMoshe wrote:In group pvp you usually have a warrior/cleric and shit. I don't see a full force nuker as a threat when you got a cleric healing.


warrior/clerik...warrior/clerick...warior/clerik everyone has a warior/clerik cmon like rly make something deferent...
full nuker...is not so great in 1v1 pvp (you can always do some stuff to own peps with it). but in GW and job is the best..great speed/def/attk what else would u wan.
i think force nukers are better in 1v1 pvp(if thats what u wan).

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:51 pm
by .AWAKE.
100 ice / light / bicheon is the most legit

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:35 pm
by Goseki
Tested it out, Light Ice Bich will nuke harder (both nukes) than Fire Ice Bich. Unless you have teammates to back you up with speed, light ice bich is prob the best 1 man army. Fire Ice Bich is more tactical pvp. Relies quite heavily on walls. I use ice imbue for looks so hit even weaker XD. But looks nice and funny when ppl are frozen solid due to chains.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:09 am
by XMoshe
ranqeg0d1 wrote:
XMoshe wrote:In group pvp you usually have a warrior/cleric and shit. I don't see a full force nuker as a threat when you got a cleric healing.


warrior/clerik...warrior/clerick...warior/clerik everyone has a warior/clerik cmon like rly make something deferent...
full nuker...is not so great in 1v1 pvp (you can always do some stuff to own peps with it). but in GW and job is the best..great speed/def/attk what else would u wan.
i think force nukers are better in 1v1 pvp(if thats what u wan).


I didn't mean a warrior/cleric build, but a warrior for buffs and cleric for buffs if you do group fights. A full force nuker can't do enough damage to kill someone if there's a cleric healing. The charging takes too long.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:44 am
by ranqeg0d1
ooo my bad i mist undertood... in that case i think no1 would do enough damage..but anyway ull have shouts that are rly quick and 3 of them can do same damage a nuke can do.. and the charging is rly fast 2..

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:27 pm
by Goseki
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Will that character deal enough dmg? My friend took a break and gave me the info so I can play with it. That staff 1-hit a ff 100 warrior cleric, no buffs though. Was fun as hell. XD. It can kill anyone except when screened or reversed.

Re: 100 ice/light/fire vs 100 ice/fire/bich (Ecsro)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:05 pm
by XMoshe
Maybe with LT but I don't think it does ~44k without LT on lvl 100 chars.