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I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:06 am
by andycooly
hi i am lvl 47 setting up a 9gap to farm i have lvl 43 bich 42 light and 40 cold. i never use bicheon hardly ever lol should i drop it and get fire ?
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:11 am
by DropOut
Nope, if you are planning on doing some pvp when your higher then you will need bicheon because of the KD and chains. At lvl45 bicheon isn't very helpfull but once you will get bleed and the lightning chain you will start to pwn

Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:25 am
by andycooly
ok i just find nuking then doing bich move dont really work well together. i guess ill keep bicheon

Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:34 am
by KillAndChill
andycooly wrote:ok i just find nuking then doing bich move dont really work well together. i guess ill keep bicheon

Look at some of the high level s/s users pvp, you will see that bicheon is very important.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:34 am
by muyo
once u r level 69 ull get triple stab that is useful when handling giant against other KSer.after 70 bicheon will get a lot better.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:04 am
by Devilman
When fighting a giant I need bicheon skills, cause the cooldowns on my nukes aren't short enough for me to keep nuking. So I mostly use, Ice nuke, light nuke, 4 chain, 5 chain, nuke, nuke, kd, stab and so on

to make it interesting when i grind xD
Edit: I'm 44 with a 8 gap Ice/light/bicheon
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:26 am
by andycooly
hmm ok ill keep bicheon since it sounds more usefull then having fire

Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:24 pm
by Insanity
or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:38 pm
by Devilman
Insanity wrote:or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.
But really bad for 1v1 pvp and jobbing IMO
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:08 pm
by antics
Devilman wrote:Insanity wrote:or you could get fire instead of bicheon. force nuker ftw. light/fire/ice. its basically like a chinese wizard except it can live longer. this build nukes HARD. really good for group pvp.
But really bad for 1v1 pvp and jobbing IMO
i back that up. u wont hit as hard as a wiz and die as fast when ur snow shield is over
id rather do damage and die. then do some damage and die w.o killing anone
keep bich itll help a lot at ur lvl u should knock down stab and nuke
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:15 pm
by Nyima
Bicheon is FAR more helpful then having fire wud be. Like everyone else says, just wait for Lightening Chain, and it will all be worth it. "Force" nukers (all 3 element trees) are pretty damn bad in pvp. You have no interrupting skills (kd's) to make you more effective, so your nukes keep getting stopped by the other players skills.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:06 pm
by andycooly
ok i think ill stick with bich coz i really wanna do jobbing at high lvl!
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:15 pm
by andycooly
since i made this thread i havnt uses ANY bicheon skills there just so useless when i train i just cold nuke then light nuke and if needed a shout

Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:43 am
by KillAndChill
andycooly wrote:since i made this thread i havnt uses ANY bicheon skills there just so useless when i train i just cold nuke then light nuke and if needed a shout

It's more useful for pvp. Not really useful for pve until you get debuffs or if you are gonna die and need to kd a mob.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:03 am
by antics
1 nuke to kill normal mobs lion shout if needed
whilte my nuke us cooling down use ur devil cut blade then knock down the next enemy
kd can be used to ks giants as well
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:38 am
by andycooly
kay i guess full force nuker isnt very good then

Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:09 am
by Fimero
full force nuker sucks 1v1 but will be good anywhere else. kinda pointless if you ask me though.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:58 am
by andycooly
hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:18 am
by Fimero
andycooly wrote:hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light
light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:39 am
by antics
Fimero wrote:andycooly wrote:hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light
light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.
lion shout isnt that great bich has those throwing skills(devil cut blade?) which i think are better
and they can crit
Re: I hardly use bicheon
Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:49 am
by Fimero
antics wrote:Fimero wrote:andycooly wrote:hmmmmm wat about dropping lgiht and getting fire (43) light
light is an ints must, magic dmg increase, nukes, lion shouts, grass walk, phantom walk. its the dmg of an int, and ice is the heart really, it provides the much needed phys def and snowsheild (ints best friend). the difference in damage having fire over light isnt much due to lights mag dmg increase. and you get more bonuses from it.
lion shout isnt that great bich has those throwing skills(devil cut blade?) which i think are better
and they can crit
im not saying that lion shout is great, but its another usefull skill from light for ints. i personally like lion shout for a pure int better, short cast time and recover. ok damage, multiple hits,and you can cast one after another. and a crit for a sword int isnt significant at all.