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What Are The Real Viable Builds at 70?

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:27 am
by PuRe
Pure str bow:
Fire imbue
Berserk arrow
Anti devil
(4 arrow alternate skill)

Pure str glaive:
Fire imbue
Ghost spear mars
Soul spear soul
(soul spear truth / flying dragon alternate skill)

Pure str blade:
Fire imbue
Knockdown
Stabs
(chains for certain situations[grinding] and that throwing thing forgot name lawl)

Pure int////Hybrid int spear ( 80-90% balance )
Fire imbue
Ghost spear
*Flame wave burning
Soul spear soul
( sstruth / 3rd book fire nuke alternate skill )

Pure int////Hybrid int sword (80-90% balance )Fire imbue
Knockdown
Stabs
*Flame wave wide
Wolfs thunderbolt( if going only nukes )
( 3rd book fire nuke alternate )


Reasons:

Fire imbue most damage
Ice immunity w/ new alchemy
Lightning immunity w/ new alchemy

Basic masteries for bow:
70 bow
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice ( most likely have to be de-leveled... level 100 cap on ksro? unknown about mastery lvl cap )

Basic masteries for glaive / blade:
70 glaive/blade
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice or bow

Basic masteries for pure int spear////hybrid spear
70 spear
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice

Basic masteries for pure int sword
70 fire
70 lightning ( 70 lit for pure int nuker )
60 sword ( 70 sword for fire nuker w/ melee skills )
60 ice or spear ( you decide )

Basic masteries for hybrid sword
70 Fire
70 Sword
60 Lightning
60 ice or spear ( you decide once again )

For all of you worry warts. Don't expect to go 2 trees in this game the entire way. The SP farming is inevitable. Whether you do it at bandit den or at end game. Or some of both and in the middle.

Ice is becoming the most unpopular due to ice immunity. Therefore: End game people can't be frost nova'd and ice imbue will be a p.o.s.

So if you really want to save on the sp part. Focus only on your tree. Fire. and Lightning to 52-60 ish ( getting grasswalk and ghost walk mainly for strength ) and getting speed piercing force as int.

Or for pure int just stay all lightning and switch to fire once at end game. SP saver. And sp grind on Nachals.

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:12 am
by kitary

fire fire fire , damage damage damage , . to bad damage dusnt alway's win

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:25 am
by PuRe
kitary wrote:
fire fire fire , damage damage damage , . to bad damage dusnt alway's win


Too bad the truth hurts.

Defense ( ice imbue ) will inevitably won't work.

Lightnings parry reduction / aoe will be decent - But eventually won't work.

Dunno about many other 64-70 players. But I myself am immune to frost/electric shock/fire/zombie.

So yeah. K K thx.

Ice / Lightning only good for the buffs / passive at this point in my opinion.

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:21 am
by Trekker
As a hybrid myself... i personally feel ice is still good even though about the 100% immunity....

i mean ...seriously how many ppl will be totally 100% immune in a server
maybe 3 out of 50? ..then its still a viable option to use ice ,

Alchemy wise... its 1%-20% for ice resisit...u gonna spend alot of money trying to be 100% immune so i guess not many ppl can be 100% immune

anyway its from my point of view.. i maybe wrong pls dun flame me >_<~~

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:36 am
by klrp
Trekker wrote:As a hybrid myself... i personally feel ice is still good even though about the 100% immunity....

i mean ...seriously how many ppl will be totally 100% immune in a server
maybe 3 out of 50? ..then its still a viable option to use ice ,

Alchemy wise... its 1%-20% for ice resisit...u gonna spend alot of money trying to be 100% immune so i guess not many ppl can be 100% immune

anyway its from my point of view.. i maybe wrong pls dun flame me >_<~~

You are right, I agree. And those 80% frost reduce sets costs too much for someones, and only with shield buff you can have ~100% reduce.

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:53 am
by kitary
PuRe wrote:
kitary wrote:
fire fire fire , damage damage damage , . to bad damage dusnt alway's win


Too bad the truth hurts.

Defense ( ice imbue ) will inevitably won't work.

Lightnings parry reduction / aoe will be decent - But eventually won't work.

Dunno about many other 64-70 players. But I myself am immune to frost/electric shock/fire/zombie.

So yeah. K K thx.


Ice / Lightning only good for the buffs / passive at this point in my opinion.


i love beating people like you with my lightning imbue

if you wanna have a truth that REALY hurts

Gold > every build .

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:59 am
by cuchulainn
Trekker wrote:As a hybrid myself... i personally feel ice is still good even though about the 100% immunity....

i mean ...seriously how many ppl will be totally 100% immune in a server
maybe 3 out of 50? ..then its still a viable option to use ice ,

Alchemy wise... its 1%-20% for ice resisit...u gonna spend alot of money trying to be 100% immune so i guess not many ppl can be 100% immune

anyway its from my point of view.. i maybe wrong pls dun flame me >_<~~


Costs a few thousand SP and the alchemy tablets. believe me, at the cap, there is nothing better to do than get/make better gear for yourself and with the new alchemy it just got a whole lot cheaper to get ice immune.

I need 22% reduction once I'm farmed. That's like 10 tablets max prolly. I've already collected half a dozen from grinding and the tablets don't sell for more than a few hundred thousand gold. It's just a matter of time until every capped player is ice immune (except for the ones who don't wanna use fire tree, which is almost no one because of highest damage nuke and physical damage buff).

Re: What Are The Real Viable Builds at 70?

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:00 pm
by Luye
PuRe wrote:Pure str bow:
Fire imbue
Berserk arrow
Anti devil
(4 arrow alternate skill)

Pure str glaive:
Fire imbue
Ghost spear mars
Soul spear soul
(soul spear truth / flying dragon alternate skill)

Pure str blade:
Fire imbue
Knockdown
Stabs
(chains for certain situations[grinding] and that throwing thing forgot name lawl)

Pure int////Hybrid int spear ( 80-90% balance )
Fire imbue
Ghost spear
*Flame wave burning
Soul spear soul
( sstruth / 3rd book fire nuke alternate skill )

Pure int////Hybrid int sword (80-90% balance )Fire imbue
Knockdown
Stabs
*Flame wave wide
Wolfs thunderbolt( if going only nukes )
( 3rd book fire nuke alternate )


Reasons:

Fire imbue most damage
Ice immunity w/ new alchemy
Lightning immunity w/ new alchemy

Basic masteries for bow:
70 bow
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice ( most likely have to be de-leveled... level 100 cap on ksro? unknown about mastery lvl cap )

Basic masteries for glaive / blade:
70 glaive/blade
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice or bow

Basic masteries for pure int spear////hybrid spear
70 spear
70 fire
60-68 lightning
60 ice

Basic masteries for pure int sword
70 fire
70 lightning ( 70 lit for pure int nuker )
60 sword ( 70 sword for fire nuker w/ melee skills )
60 ice or spear ( you decide )

Basic masteries for hybrid sword
70 Fire
70 Sword
60 Lightning
60 ice or spear ( you decide once again )

For all of you worry warts. Don't expect to go 2 trees in this game the entire way. The SP farming is inevitable. Whether you do it at bandit den or at end game. Or some of both and in the middle.

Ice is becoming the most unpopular due to ice immunity. Therefore: End game people can't be frost nova'd and ice imbue will be a p.o.s.

So if you really want to save on the sp part. Focus only on your tree. Fire. and Lightning to 52-60 ish ( getting grasswalk and ghost walk mainly for strength ) and getting speed piercing force as int.

Or for pure int just stay all lightning and switch to fire once at end game. SP saver. And sp grind on Nachals.


These are pretty self-explanatory, there are all kinds of builds and yup i agree more gold = more power

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:40 pm
by ShizKnight
kitary wrote:
PuRe wrote:
kitary wrote:
fire fire fire , damage damage damage , . to bad damage dusnt alway's win


Too bad the truth hurts.

Defense ( ice imbue ) will inevitably won't work.

Lightnings parry reduction / aoe will be decent - But eventually won't work.

Dunno about many other 64-70 players. But I myself am immune to frost/electric shock/fire/zombie.

So yeah. K K thx.


Ice / Lightning only good for the buffs / passive at this point in my opinion.


i love beating people like you with my lightning imbue

if you wanna have a truth that REALY hurts

Gold > every build .

She's right on that last statement.

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:32 am
by wickedninja
yep .....

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:10 am
by corkscrew
the builds that really add up at lvl 70....bicheon nuker....fire/lightning/cold........PURE STR fire/glavie....PURE STR blader/fire...

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:21 pm
by whY-2G
gold & SP (maybe) is all people need toO be the best...

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:31 pm
by Lance
no skills involved?

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:53 pm
by klaus
Lance wrote:no skills involved?

skills for what?
press buttons?
this game requires no skill

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:29 am
by Jon_owns_u
klaus wrote:
Lance wrote:no skills involved?

skills for what?
press buttons?
this game requires no skill



Pressing the "Right" buttons at the "Right" time involves skill.

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:41 pm
by Criterion-
kitary wrote:
PuRe wrote:
kitary wrote:
fire fire fire , damage damage damage , . to bad damage dusnt alway's win


Too bad the truth hurts.

Defense ( ice imbue ) will inevitably won't work.

Lightnings parry reduction / aoe will be decent - But eventually won't work.

Dunno about many other 64-70 players. But I myself am immune to frost/electric shock/fire/zombie.

So yeah. K K thx.


Ice / Lightning only good for the buffs / passive at this point in my opinion.


i love beating people like you with my lightning imbue

if you wanna have a truth that REALY hurts

Gold > every build .


How can a lvl 4x own a lvl 70? o.0. Whatever, since you can be immune to every imbue, you might as well pick the one that does the most damage. Which is why fire is the best. There is no question to it. You could have all the gold or be whatever build, it does not matter, fire will still be the best.