Pure str Force Blader vs Pure str Fire Blader

[Grozyll]

Fire:

Imbue, don't use it often because of the high mp cost
extra Physical damage buff
Firewall
Fire shield
Mag defence

Force:

(res, healing,..)
Extra mana
Debuffing

Why are there ppl saying Force is better for pure Str?

[DropOut]

Force is very strong for str builds like glaive and bow but a bit useless for a blader... Blade has all the debuffs in his chains it and I would never give up speed in stead of debuffs if I were a blader. Glaive and bow with force are really strong against target that have no holy spell.
The imbue has so little effect on a pure str dmg that your dmg with your imbue lvl100 = +- lvl80.
The phy dmg, you will only miss 2% of phy dmg inc. and division > 2% phy dmg inc.
Fire wall, lvl80 fire wall and lvl100 fire wall will almost go down at the same time.
Fire shield, this skill is already max at lvl68
Mag def, ok this sux but you can always wear garm

[Thomas42]

Please consider that debuffs from Force are instant and work 4 out of 5 times, while with bicheon you have to sit through the entire chain (about 4-5 seconds), and those work 1 out of 5 times.

[Grozyll]

@Thomas42
So you do prefere force before fire?

@DropOut
And why do you prefere lightning before Fire?

[DropOut]

I do not prefer light before fire
I prefer light above force for a blader.
For a glaive or a bow I prefer force instead of lightning.

[Grozyll]

I do not prefer light before fire
I prefer light above force for a blader.
For a glaive or a bow I prefer force instead of lightning.

Good Because a Fire blader pwns a Lightning blader

[Puma60]

Fire:
Imbue, don't use it often because of the high mp cost

Question, what level are you?

OT: I would go 100 Bicheon, 100 Fire, 100 Force. It would be a huge mistake not to max Fire because you need iy for the Phy % Increase, Mag Def Increase and the Imbue.

[Grozyll]

Fire:
Imbue, don't use it often because of the high mp cost

Question, what level are you?

OT: I would go 100 Bicheon, 100 Fire, 100 Force. It would be a huge mistake not to max Fire because you need iy for the Phy % Increase, Mag Def Increase and the Imbue.

i've got Many character. but i am kinda talking about 150 cap so i think force is no use to add then.

Would you use Fire imbue while farming?

[Thomas42]

@Grozyll
No, I prefer force over lightning.

For 150 cap, force will be kinda hard, but I think bicheon/force would be good.

[zShared]

erm.. for 100 cap 100 bicheon / force / 80 fire / 20 ice is best for a pure str blader, imo.
100 fire without ice is okay too.. but you really don't lose much from having 80 fire instead of 100.

I don't think it's been confirmed what the max level cap will be. Could be 120.. 140.. some even think 150.
noone will be playing those caps anyway, why even bother theorizing about the builds

[Grozyll]

erm.. for 100 cap 100 bicheon / force / 80 fire / 20 ice is best for a pure str blader, imo.
100 fire without ice is okay too.. but you really don't lose much from having 80 fire instead of 100.

I don't think it's been confirmed what the max level cap will be. Could be 120.. 140.. some even think 150.
noone will be playing those caps anyway, why even bother theorizing about the builds

What do you mean with "noone will be playing those caps anyway"?

and I rather prefere 100 fire 20 cold is useless i my eyes.

[DropOut]

erm.. for 100 cap 100 bicheon / force / 80 fire / 20 ice is best for a pure str blader, imo.
100 fire without ice is okay too.. but you really don't lose much from having 80 fire instead of 100.

I don't think it's been confirmed what the max level cap will be. Could be 120.. 140.. some even think 150.
noone will be playing those caps anyway, why even bother theorizing about the builds

What do you mean with "noone will be playing those caps anyway"?

and I rather prefere 100 fire 20 cold is useless i my eyes.

ehm ... the difference between lvl100 fire and lvl80 fire for a full str isn't that big. Your imbue will hit a little bit less than a lvl100 imbue but division and decay make up for that. You will have lower mag def but your a full str so you can tank with a garm set. 20 cold is VERY usefull because of snow (= 20% dmg abs.) This will help you a lot more than having 100 mag def more.

And she means that it will take many many years untill sro has it's final cap. Even ksro is still at 100 cap.

[Grozyll]

erm.. for 100 cap 100 bicheon / force / 80 fire / 20 ice is best for a pure str blader, imo.
100 fire without ice is okay too.. but you really don't lose much from having 80 fire instead of 100.

I don't think it's been confirmed what the max level cap will be. Could be 120.. 140.. some even think 150.
noone will be playing those caps anyway, why even bother theorizing about the builds

What do you mean with "noone will be playing those caps anyway"?

and I rather prefere 100 fire 20 cold is useless i my eyes.

ehm ... the difference between lvl100 fire and lvl80 fire for a full str isn't that big. Your imbue will hit a little bit less than a lvl100 imbue but division and decay make up for that. You will have lower mag def but your a full str so you can tank with a garm set. 20 cold is VERY usefull because of snow (= 20% dmg abs.) This will help you a lot more than having 100 mag def more.

And she means that it will take many many years untill sro has it's final cap. Even ksro is still at 100 cap.

Hmmm i can't wait for a NEW good blader guide !

[Rozelady]

I'm a pure str fire blader, and i realy think force is not worth taking.. i am lvl 97 atm, and i PVPed lvl 98+ (say 100) ff force glaviers and bowers... they both deal more damage then a blader. And i can tank them without to much trouble.
my current set is all +5, 1 part +6, so nothing that special atm.

+ what people been telling all the time.. it's already rendered useless against holy buff.

[Grozyll]

I'm a pure str fire blader, and i realy think force is not worth taking.. i am lvl 97 atm, and i PVPed lvl 98+ (say 100) ff force glaviers and bowers... they both deal more damage then a blader. And i can tank them without to much trouble.
my current set is all +5, 1 part +6, so nothing that special atm.

+ what people been telling all the time.. it's already rendered useless against holy buff.

thnx i think i am going for 100Bich/Fire 80 light and 20 cold