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glut/over healing go through snowshield? hmmm.. anyone know?

i pretty sure it does.

yes it does

Kool thanks

yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

max full int hp for this cap is around 15k-17k...

zShared wrote:yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

If they really are getting higher in comparison to max HP's then I'm glad, cleric needs to amp up their damage.

EcsTasY wrote:

zShared wrote:yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

If they really are getting higher in comparison to max HP's then I'm glad, cleric needs to amp up their damage.

clerics are "buffers," they have so much "buffs" and if they get their damage "amp" up(if you meant increasing their damage), that would be overpower aint it?

zShared wrote:yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

But Bards absolute damage skills have a faster cast time and cool down, so they can be spammed faster therefore putting down more damage.

sinny wrote:

EcsTasY wrote:

zShared wrote:yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

If they really are getting higher in comparison to max HP's then I'm glad, cleric needs to amp up their damage.

clerics are "buffers," they have so much "buffs" and if they get their damage "amp" up(if you meant increasing their damage), that would be overpower aint it?

I don't think so at all. I don't really find their buffs overpowering at all. I mean yeah bless, but it has a reeeeally long cool down. I think the overpowered buffs are warrior buffs. Screens + fences = unbeatable.

@ecstasy
well warrior role is tanking and protecting for party, while cleric role is support and heal, you cant really compare them hand to hand, and so that's why joymax make it so that we can use 2 masteries, and we put them together to make a better build. There would be no point of having main and sub class if each of the class are independent (like if cleric has all healing, buffs, and damage). If its okay for cleric to do more damage, then it would okay to have more healing skill for rogue right? Because what you are saying is that, cleric doesn't do enough damage, so cleric should do more damage, and rogue doesn't have healing skill, so rogue should get healing skill. You get what I'm trying to say?

Beside, cleric has some pretty hard hit skills already. Over healing -> glut healing-> sacrifice!

sinny wrote:@ecstasy
well warrior role is tanking and protecting for party, while cleric role is support and heal, you cant really compare them hand to hand, and so that's why joymax make it so that we can use 2 masteries, and we put them together to make a better build. There would be no point of having main and sub class if each of the class are independent (like if cleric has all healing, buffs, and damage). If its okay for cleric to do more damage, then it would okay to have more healing skill for rogue right? Because what you are saying is that, cleric doesn't do enough damage, so cleric should do more damage, and rogue doesn't have healing skill, so rogue should get healing skill. You get what I'm trying to say?

Beside, cleric has some pretty hard hit skills already. Over healing -> glut healing-> sacrifice!

I've never heard of sacrifice...however, you are saying that warrior role is tanking and protection, in order to effectively complete that job they would not need very powerful skills either, such as that of the cleric. But, they still have powerful attack skills despite not needing them for their role. Then you say cleric is support and heal. Healing they have covered very well, but support is another story. When I think of support, I think of "covering" someone's back, ready to step in whenever needed. A cleric can't really do much damage to a monster/player, their skills are too weak and have too long of a cooldown, so a cleric really can't support.

EcsTasY wrote:

sinny wrote:@ecstasy
well warrior role is tanking and protecting for party, while cleric role is support and heal, you cant really compare them hand to hand, and so that's why joymax make it so that we can use 2 masteries, and we put them together to make a better build. There would be no point of having main and sub class if each of the class are independent (like if cleric has all healing, buffs, and damage). If its okay for cleric to do more damage, then it would okay to have more healing skill for rogue right? Because what you are saying is that, cleric doesn't do enough damage, so cleric should do more damage, and rogue doesn't have healing skill, so rogue should get healing skill. You get what I'm trying to say?

Beside, cleric has some pretty hard hit skills already. Over healing -> glut healing-> sacrifice!

I've never heard of sacrifice...however, you are saying that warrior role is tanking and protection, in order to effectively complete that job they would not need very powerful skills either, such as that of the cleric. But, they still have powerful attack skills despite not needing them for their role. Then you say cleric is support and heal. Healing they have covered very well, but support is another story. When I think of support, I think of "covering" someone's back, ready to step in whenever needed. A cleric can't really do much damage to a monster/player, their skills are too weak and have too long of a cooldown, so a cleric really can't support.

I disagree...with cleric passives and LA (if phys) or robe (if mag mobs) a cleric can be an brief alternative to a tank (warrior), as long as you don't get 10 party mobs on you at the same time. Then there's bless and healing orbit. In conjunction with Recovery Division, you can take damage for quite a while. You just don't dish much out.

Sacrifice I think is "offering/pure offering".

LOOOOOL

OP, no, it doesnt go through snow shield, n any1 who dissagrees wikth me is an idiot

M3K0S wrote:LOOOOOL

OP, no, it doesnt go through snow shield, n any1 who dissagrees wikth me is an idiot

guess you never played a cleric it DOES go through snow shield -_-"

IT SHOULD GO THRU... i mean... the name isnt absolute dmg just coz they wanted to name it like that T.T

lol wtf i was half asleep when i wrote that im sry...

what i meant to say was it doesnt matter if snow shield is on or off its still gonna take the set dmg on the skill thing... same for all other buffs no matter what its still gonna take the 9k or whatever from ff to 90

pr0klobster wrote:

EcsTasY wrote:

sinny wrote:@ecstasy
well warrior role is tanking and protecting for party, while cleric role is support and heal, you cant really compare them hand to hand, and so that's why joymax make it so that we can use 2 masteries, and we put them together to make a better build. There would be no point of having main and sub class if each of the class are independent (like if cleric has all healing, buffs, and damage). If its okay for cleric to do more damage, then it would okay to have more healing skill for rogue right? Because what you are saying is that, cleric doesn't do enough damage, so cleric should do more damage, and rogue doesn't have healing skill, so rogue should get healing skill. You get what I'm trying to say?

Beside, cleric has some pretty hard hit skills already. Over healing -> glut healing-> sacrifice!

I've never heard of sacrifice...however, you are saying that warrior role is tanking and protection, in order to effectively complete that job they would not need very powerful skills either, such as that of the cleric. But, they still have powerful attack skills despite not needing them for their role. Then you say cleric is support and heal. Healing they have covered very well, but support is another story. When I think of support, I think of "covering" someone's back, ready to step in whenever needed. A cleric can't really do much damage to a monster/player, their skills are too weak and have too long of a cooldown, so a cleric really can't support.

I disagree...with cleric passives and LA (if phys) or robe (if mag mobs) a cleric can be an brief alternative to a tank (warrior), as long as you don't get 10 party mobs on you at the same time. Then there's bless and healing orbit. In conjunction with Recovery Division, you can take damage for quite a while. You just don't dish much out.

Sacrifice I think is "offering/pure offering".

I'm with you on the fact that they can tank pretty well if they stay vigilant. Let me put it this way, my main complaint I guess is that they only have 1 real attack skill. Absolute damage is great, but the damage output is too low when your opponent doesn't have crazy buffs. Offering has a 1 minute cooldown. So that just leaves you with trial/justice cross, which share a cooldown. If they removed the sharing of the cooldown on those 2, I'd be satisfied.

sorry about mixing up offering with sacrifice they are same same to me....
anyway... support is not jumping in when needed, that's more of tanking and protection which is warrior role, support means holy word/spell removing bad status, those blessings, those rezzing, and healing is also a form of support..

warrior has stronger attack than cleric, but not as strong as wiz and rogue.. and wiz/rogue doesnt have a lot of def... this is how the game is balanced, this is why it is much better and worth it to get a main and subclass, and this is why euro party is way better than chinese. you cannot just ask to make cleric attack stronger or give wiz/rogue more def or healing just because they are lacked in those area, each have their own weakness(es) and strength... and together they cover up for each other...

M3K0S wrote:lol wtf i was half asleep when i wrote that im sry...

what i meant to say was it doesnt matter if snow shield is on or off its still gonna take the set dmg on the skill thing... same for all other buffs no matter what its still gonna take the 9k or whatever from ff to 90

But its something like if they are 10 lvls above you or w/e it doesnt take that set dmg on the skill....say your lvl 89 and you have gut healing dmg like 7k or w/e... it wouldnt take 7k off the lvl 100 your doing it to... right guys? Cause hes 10 lvls above.. I know theres some restriction on it somehow

xKingpinx wrote:

M3K0S wrote:lol wtf i was half asleep when i wrote that im sry...

what i meant to say was it doesnt matter if snow shield is on or off its still gonna take the set dmg on the skill thing... same for all other buffs no matter what its still gonna take the 9k or whatever from ff to 90

But its something like if they are 10 lvls above you or w/e it doesnt take that set dmg on the skill....say your lvl 89 and you have gut healing dmg like 7k or w/e... it wouldnt take 7k off the lvl 100 your doing it to... right guys? Cause hes 10 lvls above.. I know theres some restriction on it somehow

Nope, still 7k, 99% sure.

Hey mekos
What's the answer of your riddle game wich has been closed?

Sorry for oft

EcsTasY wrote:

xKingpinx wrote:

M3K0S wrote:lol wtf i was half asleep when i wrote that im sry...

what i meant to say was it doesnt matter if snow shield is on or off its still gonna take the set dmg on the skill thing... same for all other buffs no matter what its still gonna take the 9k or whatever from ff to 90

But its something like if they are 10 lvls above you or w/e it doesnt take that set dmg on the skill....say your lvl 89 and you have gut healing dmg like 7k or w/e... it wouldnt take 7k off the lvl 100 your doing it to... right guys? Cause hes 10 lvls above.. I know theres some restriction on it somehow

Nope, still 7k, 99% sure.

Nah, there is some kind of gimp on it.. I forget how it works, but if a level 90 attacked a level 100 it's not going to hit for the specified damage.
Don't know if it has to do with so many levels lower.. or just if you're lower than your opponent.. but it's something close to that.

yea cause i did it too a higher lvl than I was and it didnt do the specified damage

Yea, if u use absolute damage skills on mobs/players higher than you, it will do less. I don't know how it is calculated tho.

Uggh warriors dont hit alot of dmg when they are tanking. 1hand + vital = crappy dmg. If you are 2hand without vital sure you got high dmg but whats the point in being a tank when everyone can ignore you? Also all europe characters have some kind of solo viability, rogue's are dmg dealers but they can tank quite well without xbow extreme or DD. Same goes for wizards that switch to cleric.

The warrior's fences are hardly overpowered. Its not like 70% dmg just disappears, the warrior gets hit with this kind of dmg. A splash attack can direct hit you for 20k and give you 17k indirect dmg for example, this is why it might be smarter for a tank to keep fences at a low mastery.

zShared wrote:yep.. also at this cap the damage seems really high.. but I dunno the max HP of a pure INT yet so maybe not

Over heal, lvl 98, damage: 11347
Glut heal, lvl 100, damage: 12030

the bard absolute damage skill is rather disappointing though.. 4864 at 100, but I'll still get it

damn... Ints are gonna die so easy:

sinny wrote:max full int hp for this cap is around 15k-17k...

max full int hp for this cap is around 15k-17k...

Not really
a friend of mine is 100 pure int nuker and has all STR and HP on his clothes, he has 21xxx HP, that is with prem +, GDF and avatar (2 str and 150 HP)

Cadaver wrote:

max full int hp for this cap is around 15k-17k...

Not really
a friend of mine is 100 pure int nuker and has all STR and HP on his clothes, he has 21xxx HP, that is with prem +, GDF and avatar (2 str and 150 HP)

that's nice i should fix my statement

without all those silk items, full int should get around 15-17k hp or so for this cap

Absolute damage works best when used at the same time with another cleric. Even that guy with the FB set + devil grade + premium + ??? would die. At 90 cap (not sure about 100) the overheal -> glut heal -> overheal was too slow to kill.