PURE INT NUKER? HELP?

[BobbZzz]

ok i am making a chinese pure int nuker. i think i have a fairly god plan. right now i have cold, light and force. and yes i want force because i want to heal and res, since i mostly play with my friend and we trade and stuff. So i was thinking of going all force nuker, using bow until lvl 30 then switching to s/s. But should i really get fire? it is at lvl 0 right now. I really don't think i should get it. It improves your magical defence, and gives more physical defence. Both of which i really don't need. So is it worth getting or should i just leave it? and my main imbue and nukes are lightning. Any help plz?

[TheKnight]

Well If you realy want Force then just take it, but Lightning is Ok because of Nukes, Mag.Dmg buff and Speed, Cold Is Good too because it Increases your Phy.Def but im not Sure About shouldn't you switch to Lightning because you can't take mastery lvls to it from Lightning because your Nukes are there, and if you take them away from Cold you will lose too much physical defense.
I'd say just go Cold/Lightning/Force S/S, but Im worrying about force, just because it doesn't have nukes or Imbue, MP Increase Passive is Nice anyway and ress too, Weak Points arn't bad either, but Think is it worth to Take Force Instead of Fire? Both Will fit quite Well (Force is gona Learn Stun if Im Right?) but You don't need Mag.Def Increase from Fire but other skills as Fire Shield, Flame Body, Passive, Nukes, Its Up to you.

[Crowley]

I think your idea is good. Fire is not neccessary. You can debuff and then nuke the living hell out of people. Go for it.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

I think your idea is good. Fire is not neccessary. You can debuff and then nuke the living hell out of people. Go for it.

half of which will be under holyword..

[Kori0129]

I think your idea is good. Fire is not neccessary. You can debuff and then nuke the living hell out of people. Go for it.

half of which will be under holyword..

+1

If a warlock is useless at this cap, then so force is

[EcsTasY]

I think your idea is good. Fire is not neccessary. You can debuff and then nuke the living hell out of people. Go for it.

half of which will be under holyword..

+1

If a warlock is useless at this cap, then so force is

Warlock isn't worthless, just because it can't really get debuffs off doesn't take too much away from it, it still has sleep, reflect, stun, and the bombs. A warlock played right is a really good build.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

doesnt mean that it is as easy to kill them without debuffing.

and btw: bombs and sleep are affected by holy word,
leaving you with reflect, stun and curses
(so a possibility of bleed and dull is still included)


for force characters, its like just playing with 2 skill trees instead of 3
they can deal damage without force,
but compared to a person who took, say .. fire instead of force: the damage output and recieved damage wont change.

holyword constrains the possiblity of a force user to reduce the opponent to the status of a bum.

[BobbZzz]

ok what does this have to do with my build? as you know my nuker is messed up at lvl 29. i want to make a new one? so should i get bow, s/s, or light? and then should i get cold, light, force, and weapon mastery? or cold, light, fire and force?

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

ok what does this have to do with my build?
explaining what is good and bad about having force as a skilll tree
as you know my nuker is messed up at lvl 29.
i want to make a new one?
uh??? was that a question?
so should i get bow, s/s, or light?
i quote

using bow until lvl 30 then switching to s/s.

and then should i get cold, light, force, and weapon mastery?
cold+light+force+weapon= 100 weapon 100 force X cold Y light (x+y= 100)
or cold, light, fire and force?

cold+light+fire+force = 100 force X cold Y light Z fire (x+y+z=200)
TOO MANY SKILL TREES

obviously, we havent achieved anything yet in this thread


if you go with weapon after lvl 30:
either bicheon or spear:
-spear for more damage and hp
-bicheon for block and defence with less damage


and for force trees:
- if you take force, MAX it
- it is best to max ice as a full int instead of light, snow shield beats speed

and if you choose not to go with a PURE FORCE NUKER:
-max ice too, the rest is up to you

[BobbZzz]

ok lets break it down. my and my friend will trade alot and i am more of a pve player and stuff and i do alot of quests. i have some optinos here.

optin A) I am remaking a nuker, or i might. and i my plan for my build is light, cold, force, and weapon. plz tell me which weapon i should get that kills fastest and lvls fastest, spear, s/s, or bow? if its bow i might keep bow after lvl 30. until lvl 30 i might not get any weapon masteries. then i might go s/s or spear, or i might just go bow. thats only IF i make a nuker. or should i just stay 1 weapon the whole time? and if i make bow nuker, shouldn't i get cold imbue as main? cuz i am bow and ranged?

Option B) should i make a full str? and which of them lvls and kills fastest? would that be glaive, blader or bow? my plan for an all str is light,fire,weapon, and force. so which one i go and which armor should i wear for all int and all str?

or option C) i have a lvl 26 wizard. should i go back to that.

plz answer this question in detail because i really need help thanks

[Tasdik]

Your planning all of your builds to have 4 mastery trees. How do you plan on fitting those into a 300 skill level cap?

[BobbZzz]

omg WOW

3 OF THEM WILL BE 90 AND ONE WILL BE 30. OR 2 OF THEM 60 AND 2 OF THEM 90. JESUS, now which one should i pick

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

from my point of view, option b would be the best,
because:

option c (wiz) --> you'd have to farm and NO, it isnt too suitable for trades since it falls too quickly

and option a---> you are too indecisive and throwing too many builds at others too judge about.

Spoiler!

either bow/glaive or blade would be good, depends on what you like most

bow would die easiest
bow and spear would kill the fastest
and blade would be able to take the most damage, but kill slowest

for all 3 weapons
either 100 weapon/fire 80 light 20 ice
or 100 weapon/fire X light Y ice (x+y=100)
or 100 weapon/fire/ice (if you can afford the drugs of wind)

force isnt really good for trading, more of a 1vs1 skill tree.
and holyword will fck it up for you most of the time.

and...

omg WOW

3 OF THEM WILL BE 90 AND ONE WILL BE 30. OR 2 OF THEM 60 AND 2 OF THEM 90. JESUS, now which one should i pick

none of the ones you suggested here, since not maxing any skill tree to 100 would leave you quite impotent

[BobbZzz]

ok no offence but you really arn't paying attention are you?

yes i know you can lvl to 100 now, but the mastery limit for chinese is STILL 300. so then what? so thats why i am keeping some 90 and stuff.

and you know chinese need way more sp then a wizard so no you don't need to farm. and how am i putting too many builds? alot of people put 4 builds. i am using 90 cap build since the mastery limit is the same. and on i don't wanna be an all str. i wanna be all int chinese nuker.

so tell me should i wear armor, or garment? and should i be a s/s nuker, spear, or bow? i tried s/s they kill slow, and i hear bow and spear do good dmg. and bow i hear does a little more dmg. so plz tell me which armor and weapon?

also my build since i am a nuker, is going to be cold, light, force, weapon. thats it, no debate just tell me those 2 things above.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

ok no offence but you really arn't paying attention are you?

yes i know you can lvl to 100 now, but the mastery limit for chinese is STILL 300. so then what? so thats why i am keeping some 90 and stuff.

ok no offence but you really arn't paying attention are you?

-__-

none of the ones you suggested here, since not maxing any skill tree to 100 would leave you quite impotent

and you know chinese need way more sp then a wizard so no you don't need to farm.
a wizard/cleric needs about 1.5 mill to be ff 100, a warrior cleric 2.2 mill,
compared to that:
a full str bower 100 bow/fire 80 light 20 ice needs 1.1 mill
a full int 100 fire/light/ice nuker needs about 1.3 mill
summary: both have sp needy builds...

and how am i putting too many builds? alot of people put 4 builds. i am using 90 cap build since the mastery limit is the same.
i know many people have 4 masteries, but you need at least weapon maxed to keep up with your opponent, leaving you with 2 masteries not maxed
in this case you'd have to go max force/weapon in order to deal good damage and be able to debuff people your lvl.
it would also leave you with 2 unmaxed builds: nukes outdated

and on i don't wanna be an all str.
i wanna be all int chinese nuker.
you gave me 3 options, i told you my opinion

so tell me should i wear armor, or garment? and should i be a s/s nuker, spear, or bow? i tried s/s they kill slow, and i hear bow and spear do good dmg. and bow i hear does a little more dmg. so plz tell me which armor and weapon?
full int bowers have the lowest defence, but have range and deal good damage:
fastest chinese lvlers. in pvp they are totally snow shield dependant.
but you'd be using bow more than your nukes.

spear is less snow shield dependant because of its hp boost,
but still does have little defence
very high damage dealer

s/s deals less damage but that doesnt mean that it cant kill
can survive alot of stuff, since it can block and has higher defence

for trading i'd go s/s since it isnt a build that would drop ded too fast after an unlucky hit

also my build since i am a nuker, is going to be cold, light, force, weapon. thats it, no debate just tell me those 2 things above.
with this constellatio you will have to max force and the weapon, leaving you with hybridized cold and light

[BobbZzz]

ok first of all i check on chinese sp calculator the build i want and the moves that i need, the total sp is 600 and some thing thousand. it's not over a million.

and why do NEED to have one mastery 100. i am not doing that because the mastery limit is still 300. and first of all the only reason i am getting the force tree is so i can heal, res and get more mana with the passive, and stuff like cure the abnormal states, and the harmony therapy circles. i am not going to use the debuffs. i havbe no use for them. after all i am more of a pve player and i don't like pvp.

and thi is my char so it is my opinion which i am choosing to be all int chinese nuker.

and which armor should i pick also? armor or garment? in reality garment is better but armor just looks better. because garment makes you go faster plus i am nuker so i need the less mp consumption.

and no i do not die that much in trades because i have my lvl 36 friend with me. he is warrior 2 hand and he will do the fighting cuz he is euro. so now should i pick bow or spear? i want to kill fast, lvl fast, and use as little mp as i can, also i want it to be easy.

[Tasdik]

and why do NEED to have one mastery 100. i am not doing that because the mastery limit is still 300. and first of all the only reason i am getting the force tree is so i can heal, res and get more mana with the passive, and stuff like cure the abnormal states, and the harmony therapy circles. i am not going to use the debuffs. i havbe no use for them. after all i am more of a pve player and i don't like pvp.

Force at level 30 is pointless at higher levels.

1. Your heals won't be noticeable.
2. Your ress will be to low to really do anything. Cept for ressing levels 3x and below.
3. You'll get very little mana. Like 300 mp max iirc. Which is all but useless for a pure int.
4. Your abnormal cure won't work on higher levels of statuses. And a uni pill is faster anyways, plus their cheap.
5. Harmony therapy circles will only work on low level 3x mobs. Useless after that.

[BobbZzz]

then how bout 90 light, 90 cold, 90 force, and 30 weapon? or 90 cold and light, and 60 force and weapon?

and wtf is wrong with garment. i tried some moves with AND without garment. and it doesn't reduce mp consumption. IT'S STILL THE SAME!!!

so i should wear armor huh?

and whats best in the long run for an all int nuker? bow or spear?

[Tasdik]

then how bout 90 light, 90 cold, 90 force, and 30 weapon? or 90 cold and light, and 60 force and weapon?

and wtf is wrong with garment. i tried some moves with AND without garment. and it doesn't reduce mp consumption. IT'S STILL THE SAME!!!

so i should wear armor huh?

and whats best in the long run for an all int nuker? bow or spear?

1. Weird.

2. I dislike armor, go with protector.

3. I say spear since it does better damage. Nukeing wise.

[BobbZzz]

but protector looks like monkey shit.

oh and the garment part where i said it still remains the same, i am actually getting taxi now so i still have my lvl 1 stuff? do you have to have all garment pieces or just some? because i only had my lvl 1 chest, legs and shoes.

but like bow better though, is it still very good at nuker too?

[Tasdik]

but protector looks like monkey shit.

oh and the garment part where i said it still remains the same, i am actually getting taxi now so i still have my lvl 1 stuff? do you have to have all garment pieces or just some? because i only had my lvl 1 chest, legs and shoes.

but like bow better though, is it still very good at nuker too?

Oh Lol there's the problem. You have to have the full garment or protector set to get it's advantages.

As for the weapon, that's up to you. So far you've done what you've wanted too do regardless of whether or not it may or may not be good. So do what ever the heck makes you happy. Your the one playing the char, not us. If you really like bow that much then use it.

[Kori0129]

if you really want to help your friends, heal, buff, ress, want to tank, don't want to sp farm, then I tell you the best build for you :

pure cleric


(in light armor)


(and with 10 warrior for shield trash and max-10 bard)

[BobbZzz]

ah ok. well then no i am not really a helper support guy. i just want force to heal some health so i don't need waste potions and res people. and harmony therapy w/e comes in handy.

well thanks for the hlep guys

[Botlessbear]

wizards are better

[BobbZzz]

wizards are better

i hereby reopen this arguement....

I CAN'T DECIDE WHAT TO BE!!! WWWWWWAAAAAAHAHAHHAA

[Tasdik]

wizards are better

i hereby reopen this arguement....

If your planning on soloing a lot/your server doesn't have a lot of parties I'd go with a chinese char. Since their better soloers.

[BobbZzz]

yes true but i'm also gonna trade with my warrior friend and stuff. but i am staying chinese. now i just can't decide! everytime i make a character it seems weak or i mess it up.

i had two nukers, the first one got messed up, the second i was make a spear but i didn't like it so i chose bow, and i noticed it wasn't really good. i didn't have my bow moves though, i just used imbue and threw arrows at them. but i like bow best its fun.

so in this case should i be a bow nuker which i really like? or should i be an all strength bow? is all str still really fun, quick kills, and lvls fast? i want what is best for pve.