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farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:41 am
by NumberOne
100cap farm now at ongs dlvling massivly? or farm about 500k and later on play with gaps? which one would be faster?
i calculated.... and i need about 600k sp to lv90FF.... and from lv30-lv90 0gap i get about 200k.. i would need to farm about 500k[to be safe] and 0gap to lv90 then from lv90-lv100 i need about 600k sp.... so i need to open gap to 7gap and lvl to lv100 then i'll be lv100FF...

or if i want to 0gap to lv100 and be FF.... i need to farm about 1million sp..which is.... twices as longer..... so what do you guys think?

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:50 am
by Tasdik
Farming now.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:55 am
by NumberOne
thats what i was going to do but the fact that im not getting a stable pwlvl...... im getting roughly 10sp per min... it's taking so long..... omg... the maxed i farmed before with 80cap was like 250k..... farming 1m is just insane... i really want to job.... job war.... cape... ah.... i miss those days.....

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:25 am
by Rav3r
Well im not farming im 9 gapping to the cap i have heard it gives u enough exp
for all ya skills

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:30 am
by NumberOne
if you 9gap to lv100 you get over 6million.. which is seriously about more than enough to be FF.....and 9 gapping to cap would take much more time than farming...

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:10 pm
by NumberOne
wow..... this is so annoying... i can't make up my mind....

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:22 pm
by raphaell666
Rav3r wrote:Well im not farming im 9 gapping to the cap i have heard it gives u enough exp
for all ya skills

That's ridiculous.

NumberOne wrote:if you 9gap to lv100 you get over 6million.. which is seriously about more than enough to be FF.....and 9 gapping to cap would take much more time than farming...

You get almost 7 million SP 9 gapping to 100, and you'd need at most ~ 2m SP to get FF'ed to 100 with a very very expensive SP build.
It's a very stupid idea to go with a 9 gap to 100, honestly.

@NumberOne
What I'd do in your place would be to farm those 500k SP at ongs, then 0 gap to ~ 90, and then farm the rest you need for 100 cap. It's what I'd do, even if it's not the fastest way.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:44 pm
by NumberOne
ok 500k it is.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:29 am
by Rav3r
:shock: ok so if i 5 gap would that be enough :roll:

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:40 am
by raphaell666
Rav3r wrote::shock: ok so if i 5 gap would that be enough :roll:

What build?

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:02 am
by Rav3r
I got two that i was gonna 9 gap
warlock/cleric all books in warlock and just buffs and stuff for cleric and
Warrior/cleric 2h/Dual axe and buffs aswell and the selfbuffs and pt bufffs :) lol

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:05 am
by Rav3r
ohh i will be skipping some pointless skills with both chars

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:12 am
by raphaell666
@Rav3r
You can calculate the SP required of your builds at http://nivlam.igamelegit.com/ using SP gap and European SP.

I did the calculation on a 3 weapons warrior/cleric build, without some useless skills, and it ended up ~ 2,1m SP. With my warlock/cleric without some useless skills it was ~ 2,3m SP.

To get 2,3m SP at 100 cap, you'd need to go with more than a 7 gap. If you try leveling to 100 with any cap higher than 4, I really doubt you'll ever get near it nevertheless, so I'd suggest you to either farm it in steps or farm it all at once. Constant gapping will not work, it'll take too much time.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:21 am
by NumberOne
if you play with constant gap.. then you'll get bored because you will always be weaker then those who are FF.. and you will not see and progress as you grind... so the game becomes "extremely difficult" to lvl and boring.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:25 am
by raphaell666
NumberOne wrote:if you play with constant gap.. then you'll get bored because you will always be weaker then those who are FF.. and you will not see and progress as you grind... so the game becomes "extremely difficult" to lvl and boring.

If it's a rather low gap such as 2-3 gap, it's not so annoying, but anything above 3 is kind of too much in my opinion. Better would be to stop leveling and farm with a 9 gap for a while.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:27 am
by Rav3r
Ok atm my warrior is lvl 31 with a one gap and like 177 sp rofl
and my lock is 22 with like 80 sp no gap
what u reccomend i do know ?

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:41 am
by Rav3r
What if i 5-4 gap ? and stop and farm at like 60 or 70

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:48 am
by raphaell666
My suggestion: Just go leveling, forget about how much SP you'll need in the future. Or else you'll get crazy and stop playing once you realize how it truly is. When you feel like your skills are becoming difficult to rise with your current gap, stop leveling skills for a while, leave both at the same level, max all skills on both until this level you've left them, farm some more so you can have some extra SP, and level with a small gap again. I'd suggest something like this.

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:28 am
by Rav3r
Ok thanks heaps :)

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:16 am
by NumberOne
i completely agree with raphaell. if you low gap[1-3 max4] then i guess it's ok..... but if your "grinding" with a high lvl of gap[5-9] then it's gonna be very slow and boring. because the point of "grinding" is to level your character, and with that mind-set you'r gonna start to get upset about how your character's percentage isn't raising. but if your mind is set on "farming" then with 9gap you'll only pay attention to how much SP you have, so the way you look at the game becomes different and that slow rate of exp percentage becomes ignored.

so yea.. if you don't want to farm then i say just level with around 3 or 4 gap then when you start getting short on sp then raise your gap a little.. then as you start stacking your sp bit more then lower your gap again... but again...... best bet is to just farm at first[low level]..

!!!!FARMING AT HIGHER LEVEL, AROUND 50-60 IS THE WORST THING YOU CAN POSSIBLY DO IN THIS GAME!!!![my opinion. ^^;]

Re: farm or not

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:08 am
by Rav3r
Ok thanks guys im now 4 gapping =]