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70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:49 am
by pipigrande
I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?
Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:09 am
by Tasdik
Decent hp and good damage on your regular attacks.
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:51 am
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
its almost a 1:2 int build for 70% phys. - 70% mag
a real killer along with 1:1 or any of the str hybs.
I am farming for one right now
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:44 pm
by LastProfet
why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 2:43 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
LastProfet wrote:why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..
why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:11 pm
by LastProfet
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:LastProfet wrote:why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..
why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70
i wanted to say that it dnt need so many sp for lv 90 ff..well,100 now...for 90 its like 550-600k sp for being full farmed with ALL pach skills,fire90,ice 60 light 60..u better think twice before talking...
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:54 pm
by Tasdik
LastProfet wrote:[u better think twice before talking...
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:24 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
LastProfet wrote:Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:LastProfet wrote:why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..
why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70
i wanted to say that it dnt need so many sp for lv 90 ff..well,100 now...for 90 its like 550-600k sp for being full farmed with ALL pach skills,fire90,ice 60 light 60..
u better think twice before talking...
i said
BOWeven a str build can live without 3 skills to 100
such as 100 bow/fire 80 light 20 cold
get it?
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:53 pm
by raphaell666
pipigrande wrote:I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?
Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?
They prefer 70:70 because of it's high average non-crit damage, while still dealing good critical attacks and having a good survivability. Heavy STR builds have 'strong' crits but weak normal average attacks (non-crit) and heavy INT builds have 'weak' crits and high normal non-crit damage, so 70:70 is somewhat in middle of that. Bowers with higher physical balance would have a higher survivability and 'stronger' crits, but lower average damage, while bowers with higher magical balance would have a lower survivability and 'weaker' crits, but with higher average damage. You can freely make your choice, neither one of these is "the best" or whatever. It simply is a matter of taste.
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:20 pm
by pipigrande
Thanks for the replies but no one really gave me the answer I was looking for (mathwise).
As for now, I'm going 8x:6x balance. I
believe that would be better.
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:09 pm
by raphaell666
pipigrande wrote:Thanks for the replies but no one really gave me the answer I was looking for (mathwise).
As for now, I'm going 8x:6x balance. I
believe that would be better.
I'm afraid (and pretty sure) there's no math at all behind it. 70:70 (or 69:70) is simply the closest to equalized balances you can get, and that's it.
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:29 pm
by LastProfet
i said BOW
even a str build can live without 3 skills to 100
such as 100 bow/fire 80 light 20 cold
get it?
...forget it
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:52 am
by Blinxx
pipigrande wrote:I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?
Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?
raphaell666 wrote:They prefer 70:70 because of it's high average non-crit damage, while still dealing good critical attacks and having a good survivability. Heavy STR builds have 'strong' crits but weak normal average attacks (non-crit) and heavy INT builds have 'weak' crits and high normal non-crit damage, so 70:70 is somewhat in middle of that. Bowers with higher physical balance would have a higher survivability and 'stronger' crits, but lower average damage, while bowers with higher magical balance would have a lower survivability and 'weaker' crits, but with higher average damage. You can freely make your choice, neither one of these is "the best" or whatever. It simply is a matter of taste.
doesn't that practically answer the question?
depends on what math calculation you talking about, then figure it out by paphaell666's answer...
Re: 70:70 Bow Build
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 pm
by raphaell666
Blinxx wrote:raphaell666's
Fixed.
