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Ok, so I'm working on farming a tri-element nuker for 100 cap, Fire/Light/Cold. Im still wondering about other builds... My 3 choices are Pure Int Fire/Light/Cold, Pure Int Bicheon/Light/Cold, or Hybrid Int Bicheon/Fire/Cold. I need a little help choosing. Any opinions?

i'd choose bicheon light cold...full int , and better wear garment

why not full int bicheon/fire/cold?

anyway i wouldn't recommend not having any weapon masteries, unless ur gonna pve all the time.

Uhhhh wearing garments as a nuker is phail. Prot Ftw. GO hybrid ...about 90%....you'll lose some nuker powa but your bicheon skills and hp is gonna be the shiz .

Bobby wrote:why not full int bicheon/fire/cold?

anyway i wouldn't recommend not having any weapon masteries, unless ur gonna pve all the time.

full force nukers do pretty well in group pvps. not so much 1v1.

nohunta wrote:Uhhhh wearing garments as a nuker is phail. Prot Ftw.

You clearly does not know what you are talking about. Most pure int's at cap use garment. Garment is superior to protector in a lot of aspects, and if you have maxed cold, it's even better.

aznfury91 wrote:

Bobby wrote:why not full int bicheon/fire/cold?
anyway i wouldn't recommend not having any weapon masteries, unless ur gonna pve all the time.

full force nukers do pretty well in group pvps. not so much 1v1.

+1

RK42 wrote:Ok, so I'm working on farming a tri-element nuker for 100 cap, Fire/Light/Cold. Im still wondering about other builds... My 3 choices are Pure Int Fire/Light/Cold, Pure Int Bicheon/Light/Cold, or Hybrid Int Bicheon/Fire/Cold. I need a little help choosing. Any opinions?

Choose the one that you prefer, all of them have pros and cons. In a general manner of speaking:
Fire = more nukes, higher range and magical defense;
Lightning = more speed and mobility;
Cold = more physical defense and survivability;
Bicheon = more defense/survivability and the ability to literally stop your enemies (KnockDown).

What do I need for group pvp?
-Speed, mobility, survivability. Also damage and some range (though not as needed as the others).

And for 1vs1 pvp?
-Damage, defense, and the ability to stop your enemies which is invaluable in this case.

ok so .. why full int
-whats the point of getting some hp for loosing the dmg of the nukes ? if u want hybrid go spear .. [ i dnt advice u to do that ]

nohunta wrote:Uhhhh wearing garments as a nuker is phail. Prot Ftw. GO hybrid ...about 90%....you'll lose some nuker powa but your bicheon skills and hp is gonna be the shiz .

...ur || with the nuker stuffs

Bobby wrote:why not full int bicheon/fire/cold?

anyway i wouldn't recommend not having any weapon masteries, unless ur gonna pve all the time.

why not fire cold bich..huh i dnt know...i only like light more,more speed,and with piercing force it hits same dmg as fire does..its same dmg,looks cooler,imbue can hit several mobs with 1 hit

raphaell666 wrote:What do I need for group pvp?
-Speed, mobility, survivability. Also damage and some range (though not as needed as the others).

thats the only thing that fire has...fire nukes have bigger range than light...

edit:sry raphael...i pulled the wrong "quote" ...

LastProfet wrote:

aznfury91 wrote:What do I need for group pvp?
-Speed, mobility, survivability. Also damage and some range (though not as needed as the others).

thats the only thing that fire has...fire nukes have bigger range than light...

First of all, you quoted my reply but you referred it as made by "aznfury91". Secondly, as I've already stated:

raphaell666 wrote:Fire = more nukes, higher range and magical defense;

Range is not the only thing that fire offers. Fire also offers easier immunity and fire wall, while lightning offers speed/mobility and has only 1 strong nuke at any cap above 100, your second strongest nuke from lightning will be ~ 14 levels below.

aznfury91 wrote:

Bobby wrote:why not full int bicheon/fire/cold?

anyway i wouldn't recommend not having any weapon masteries, unless ur gonna pve all the time.

full force nukers do pretty well in group pvps. not so much 1v1.

fair enuf, i'd still pick a bicheon mastery tho cos of the nasty chain at 100cap lol.


at 100cap, if u max bicheon light and cold, u will lose immunity, and 100cap is coming very soon. IMO taking fire instead of light, all ur really losing is speed, and gaining all the things raphaell said.

By the way, I never said that fire is better than lightning. They just have different cons and pros, and people who say that one is superior to another are wrong, unless they base it on personal preference. As an example, I love speed, and for that reason I'd probably think a LOT before going with 0 lightning or low speed builds. You have to choose based on what you prefer.

Thanks for the opinions. I know having a weapon mastery would help a lot, but I love having speed and mag power+, I love the cold defense and snow shield, and I know for a fact I'm getting Fire... It sounds to me like a Fire/Light/Cold would be best for me. And I think I've eliminated the int Bich/Light/Cold so that makes it slightly easier to pick

raphaell666 wrote:

nohunta wrote:Uhhhh wearing garments as a nuker is phail. Prot Ftw.

You clearly does not know what you are talking about. Most pure int's at cap use garment. Garment is superior to protector in a lot of aspects, and if you have maxed cold, it's even better

To make this more clear, its about an aspect of balance. If ur going fire with little cold you should b wearing armor\prot... why? Because your lack of phy def can be made up by ur armor\prot. For light\cold a similar thing appiles, to make up for ur current lack of a mag def boost u would b wearing garment.

RK42 wrote:Thanks for the opinions. I know having a weapon mastery would help a lot, but I love having speed and mag power+, I love the cold defense and snow shield, and I know for a fact I'm getting Fire... It sounds to me like a Fire/Light/Cold would be best for me. And I think I've eliminated the int Bich/Light/Cold so that makes it slightly easier to pick

Fire/cold/lightning is a good choice, unless you care a lot about 1vs1 pvping.

magisuns wrote:To make this more clear, its about an aspect of balance. If ur going fire with little cold you should b wearing armor\prot... why? Because your lack of phy def can be made up by ur armor\prot. For light\cold a similar thing appiles, to make up for ur current lack of a mag def boost u would b wearing garment.

It's not really the mastery that dictates the armor you'd need to use, it's actually the contrary. The build and the armor dictate the masteries you'd need, I think. As an example, if you are going with garment (and you are not a str based build), extra phy def would help (as garment has a somewhat low phy def), that's why it'd be good to go with cold. Btw, I wouldn't suggest anyone to go with armor, even if you have 0 cold and you are pure int.

raphaell666 wrote:

RK42 wrote:Thanks for the opinions. I know having a weapon mastery would help a lot, but I love having speed and mag power+, I love the cold defense and snow shield, and I know for a fact I'm getting Fire... It sounds to me like a Fire/Light/Cold would be best for me. And I think I've eliminated the int Bich/Light/Cold so that makes it slightly easier to pick

Fire/cold/lightning is a good choice, unless you care a lot about 1vs1 pvping.

Yeah, PvP isn't a big concern of mine.. plus if I'm FuFa100 I might still be able to win
PvE is what im mainly looking for in this char, I want a fast lvler that can handle a giant or pt mob and if needed, plvl fast

RK42 wrote:Yeah, PvP isn't a big concern of mine.. plus if I'm FuFa100 I might still be able to win
PvE is what im mainly looking for in this char, I want a fast lvler that can handle a giant or pt mob and if needed, plvl fast

Then that's the right chinese choice for ya.

full force is fun enough, excellent pve, and good group pvp, 1 on 1 you can still win if you out gear your opponent

I am full int armor (sosun spear, why i have armor ) light/ice nuker, and I love it.

100spear/ice/light owns.

Yeah, PvP isn't a big concern of mine.. plus if I'm FuFa100 I might still be able to win
PvE is what im mainly looking for in this char, I want a fast lvler that can handle a giant or pt mob and if needed, plvl fast

For this, ice/light/fire all the way, just don't stray into pvp 1v1.. you'll own multiple pvp though :] Spam those nukes!

Afide wrote:I am full int armor (sosun spear, why i have armor ) light/ice nuker, and I love it.

100spear/ice/light owns.

Yeah, PvP isn't a big concern of mine.. plus if I'm FuFa100 I might still be able to win
PvE is what im mainly looking for in this char, I want a fast lvler that can handle a giant or pt mob and if needed, plvl fast

For this, ice/light/fire all the way, just don't stray into pvp 1v1.. you'll own multiple pvp though :] Spam those nukes!

Ok, you made a nice statement here. Group pvp this build will dominate