Page 1 of 1
Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:15 am
by moviewatcher09
Hello everyone,
I am making a blader, the things i want for my blader are:
"BEST" possible blader for 1v1,
Decent group pvp,
Dont mind if pve is horrible.
With that said, i think a force blader would be the best for me, 90 bich/fire/force and 30 cold. I heard this is the "best" blader build for 1v1 pvp. And decent for group.
But what about 90 bich/fire/cold and 30 light, i heard that is a really good tank and pretty good at group and 1v1 pvp. I have seen the 72 cold and 48 light, but that is more for verstility and for people who cant live without speed buffs, right? And 90 cold is better for pvp?
Also if i choose the force build, should i go hybrid to increase my damage output even more? Ive seen many threads that say chiniese are ment to be hybrid because of both mag and phy atk on weps, so is hybrid better for 1v1 with the force build? And what about for the Cold build?
And for the 100cap when holy word will be nerfed(unconfirmed?) will force be better? Also heard that as cap increaces hybrids get worse and worse. So mabye hybrid isnt the best option.
Anyway thanks for taking the time to read this and answering my questions.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:05 am
by Bobby
Well first off, im a force blader and the lack of speed can really piss me off sometimes, other than tht it's pretty awesome.
Bicheon90/Fire 90/Cold 90/Light 30 makes a great tank, has the best defence, plus the debuffs from lightning chain to substitute for force. The 72 cold and 48 light does give u more speed and tht ghost walk, other than tht u get some parry ratio and a tiny bit of xtra damage. It's a pretty good build tho, if u can deal with no speed buffs, then thts great. I don't have light either, tho i tend to whine about it alot lol.
My build is full str, but i guess hybrid would definately work. Tho i think hybrid works best with cold, so u can compensate for the lack of hp, and kinda use the xtra mp (snow shield).
About the holy word, yes force will work considerately better, tho i wouldn't get ur hopes up too high about the change. And imo, hybrids won't get worse as the cap increases, but it's hard to be sure yet.
Hope tht helps
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:17 am
by The Furious Ninja
5:1 is a good blader hybrid
1vs 1 is good, and awesome pve
you can actually kill in one imbue when grinding
of course that is if you're even considering hybrid
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:36 am
by BaronSengir
dont listen to them make a PURE STR blader only
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:32 am
by The Furious Ninja
was just throwing it out there
he mentioned hybrid but already seams like he's made up his mind he wants pure str
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:32 am
by raphaell666
moviewatcher09 wrote:Hello everyone,
I am making a blader, the things i want for my blader are:
"BEST" possible blader for 1v1,
Decent group pvp,
Dont mind if pve is horrible.
With that said, i think a force blader would be the best for me, 90 bich/fire/force and 30 cold. I heard this is the "best" blader build for 1v1 pvp. And decent for group.
I don't know if it'd be the best, but it'd certainly be a good option.
But what about 90 bich/fire/cold and 30 light, i heard that is a really good tank and pretty good at group and 1v1 pvp. I have seen the 72 cold and 48 light, but that is more for verstility and for people who cant live without speed buffs, right? And 90 cold is better for pvp?
Yeah, and 90 cold is better for most 1vs1 pvp situations. Anyways, bicheon/fire/force > bicheon/fire/cold for 1vs1 pvp when you CAN debuff.
Also if i choose the force build, should i go hybrid to increase my damage output even more? Ive seen many threads that say chiniese are ment to be hybrid because of both mag and phy atk on weps, so is hybrid better for 1v1 with the force build? And what about for the Cold build?
That'd depend on personal preference. The hybrid would probably deal more damage, but would have less HP. Up to you. I don't think that a force blader needs any extra damage (after debuffing) though.
And for the 100cap when holy word will be nerfed(unconfirmed?) will force be better?
I'm not sure about this.
Also heard that as cap increaces hybrids get worse and worse. So mabye hybrid isnt the best option.
May be, but I wouldn't be so sure.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:37 am
by Bl4nk
moviewatcher09 wrote:Hello everyone,
I am making a blader, the things i want for my blader are:
"BEST" possible blader for 1v1,
Decent group pvp,
Dont mind if pve is horrible.
With that said, i think a force blader would be the best for me, 90 bich/fire/force and 30 cold. I heard this is the "best" blader build for 1v1 pvp. And decent for group.
But what about 90 bich/fire/cold and 30 light, i heard that is a really good tank and pretty good at group and 1v1 pvp. I have seen the 72 cold and 48 light, but that is more for verstility and for people who cant live without speed buffs, right? And 90 cold is better for pvp?
Also if i choose the force build, should i go hybrid to increase my damage output even more? Ive seen many threads that say chiniese are ment to be hybrid because of both mag and phy atk on weps, so is hybrid better for 1v1 with the force build? And what about for the Cold build?
And for the 100cap when holy word will be nerfed(unconfirmed?) will force be better? Also heard that as cap increaces hybrids get worse and worse. So mabye hybrid isnt the best option.
Anyway thanks for taking the time to read this and answering my questions.
didnt read what anyone else has said yet but as a force blader i know its realy good at pvp if you know what your doing and now with 100cap just comeing out force bladers will have the level 100 stun skill (which was supposed to be 110cap but its on the official update page) and the new chain with stun dull and somthing else but with 2 stun skills KD and all the effects force bladers are going to kick ass (holy word nerf would also helps against euros)
but remember after this cap 100 your going to have to be ready to level down force to 0 cause i dont think a build like 110 blade 110 force 80 fire is going to do well, so after level 100 force is useless, also not having force to your level doesnt work.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:08 pm
by LastProfet
i'd choose fire force bicheon..or fire light bicheon..u can c choose ice too but i dnt like it for a blader..i want speed ^_^
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:02 am
by moviewatcher09
Alright thanks for the input guys, i am probably gonna go Force, its diffrent might be fun to try
Probably pure str for now i am lvl 38, might think about hybrid l8er.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:44 am
by Bobby
Good luck with ur char. The new chain is gonna be super uber, can't wait for it lol. U'll have to get rdy for 100cap now instead.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:02 pm
by Insanity
100 bich / 100 fire / 100 ice.
never been a fan of the force tree, but you can try it. have fun mate.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm
by ferinez
Insanity wrote:100 bich / 100 fire / 100 ice.
never been a fan of the force tree, but you can try it. have fun mate.
I think this is good for now since it is going to be 100 max mastery lvl soon
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:11 am
by moviewatcher09
Well now that the 100 cap is coming out in like a day, I just thought of something.
If i go 100 force/fire/bich, i get no snow shield...
My masteries are at: 32 fire/bich, 30 force/cold.
So i could switch to 100 cold insted of force. So is snow shield really worth it for a blader?
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:16 am
by Bobby
Snow shield is useful but u don't absolutely need it. If u really want it u could go Bicheon 100/Fire 100/ Light 80/ Cold 20 or max cold, but force is still a good option
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:48 am
by HBblade
The Furious Ninja wrote:5:1 is a good blader hybrid
1vs 1 is good, and awesome pve
you can actually kill in one imbue when grinding
of course that is if you're even considering hybrid
lol, u must have some weak gear
pure str blade at lvl 90, 2skills a mob (demon cut & devil cut) that's half an imbue >.>
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:20 pm
by Grim_Soul
HBblade wrote:The Furious Ninja wrote:5:1 is a good blader hybrid
1vs 1 is good, and awesome pve
you can actually kill in one imbue when grinding
of course that is if you're even considering hybrid
lol, u must have some weak gear
pure str blade at lvl 90, 2skills a mob (demon cut & devil cut) that's half an imbue >.>
+1
Bladers arent THAT much weaker then other classes in dmg...
I am lvl 84 with junk gear and can 2 skill a lvl 87 general wing tribe.
Re: Perfect Blader For Me
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:13 pm
by Afide
Without light it's great to tank, you can't move faster then a baby's crawl anyways! :]