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Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:56 pm
by marckillz91
Goodevening,
Iam starting a new char, atm farming at ongs. I wanna have force at my masteries, only i dont have any idea How..
Ive set 3 builds for a force bower:
First:
90 pacheon 90 fire 90 force 30 lightning
Second:
90 Pacheon 90 Fire 60 Lighting 60 Force
Third:
90 Pacheon 90 fire 70 force 50 lightning
Or just normal:
90 Pacheon 90 Fire 90 Lightning 30 Ice
This is all for Str hybrid bow.
Also iam thinking to do 70 70, or a heavy hybrid like 3:1..
Can you help me outa this
Thx.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:00 pm
by Ricooo
90 pach 90 fire 90 force 20 ice 10 light
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:10 pm
by marckillz91
Why 20 ice and 10 lightning?
I think its better to do Pacheon fire 90, light force 60
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:18 pm
by AnarChaos
Either take force 90 or never get it. No meaning of getting force 60 imo.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:39 pm
by Ricooo
marckillz91 wrote:Why 20 ice and 10 lightning?
I think its better to do Pacheon fire 90, light force 60
Since you are HYBRID, you still use some magical damage (imbues).. The 20 ice is enough for a low lvl snow shield (20% is enough) and the 10 light will give you the parry ratio passive (better than nothing!) and the magical damage increase buff (It's only 2%, but it still adds quite alot to your overall damage).
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:46 pm
by XMoshe
Ricooo wrote:marckillz91 wrote:Why 20 ice and 10 lightning?
I think its better to do Pacheon fire 90, light force 60
Since you are HYBRID, you still use some magical damage (imbues).. The 20 ice is enough for a low lvl snow shield (20% is enough) and the 10 light will give you the parry ratio passive (better than nothing!) and the magical damage increase buff (It's only 2%, but it still adds quite alot to your overall damage).
Don't think it'll be much more than a few hundred dmg...Which is not much with attacks that does over 10k dmg at 90 >.>
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:26 am
by LastProfet
...90 fire pacheon force..if u really want force so much...but really why u go hybrid ... 100 cap its close..and bow get some nice skills on it...that are good for full str ,,, anyway.. i said u the build...the stats are ur decision
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:25 pm
by Ricooo
XMoshe wrote:Ricooo wrote:marckillz91 wrote:Why 20 ice and 10 lightning?
I think its better to do Pacheon fire 90, light force 60
Since you are HYBRID, you still use some magical damage (imbues).. The 20 ice is enough for a low lvl snow shield (20% is enough) and the 10 light will give you the parry ratio passive (better than nothing!) and the magical damage increase buff (It's only 2%, but it still adds quite alot to your overall damage).
Don't think it'll be much more than a few hundred dmg...Which is not much with attacks that does over 10k dmg at 90 >.>
Well, that few hundred damage does help you... And lvl 30 snowshield really isn't that helpful since he's not pure int, so that lightning buff can only do matters of good

Also, its 3% not 2 (it was a mistake).
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:56 pm
by Fauntleroy
AnarChaos wrote:Either take force 90 or never get it. No meaning of getting force 60 imo.
Right. Take 90 pacheon/fire and 72 ice and 48 lightning
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:41 pm
by marckillz91
Fauntleroy wrote:AnarChaos wrote:Either take force 90 or never get it. No meaning of getting force 60 imo.
Right. Take 90 pacheon/fire and 72 ice and 48 lightning
Isnt it better if i do Pacheon 90 Fire 90 Lightning 72 cold 48? It gonna be Str hybrid.
Thx for advice!
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:20 pm
by XMoshe
marckillz91 wrote:Fauntleroy wrote:AnarChaos wrote:Either take force 90 or never get it. No meaning of getting force 60 imo.
Right. Take 90 pacheon/fire and 72 ice and 48 lightning
Isnt it better if i do Pacheon 90 Fire 90 Lightning 72 cold 48? It gonna be Str hybrid.
Thx for advice!
Try 60/60 then but I suggest pure str lol.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:51 pm
by raphaell666
marckillz91 wrote:Isnt it better if i do Pacheon 90 Fire 90 Lightning 72 cold 48? It gonna be Str hybrid.
Thx for advice!
Hmm no. 72cold/48light is even better as a str hybrid because that extra phy defense and snow shield are probably going to help. If you prefer, you can also go with 60cold/60light, but I'd still say 72cold/48light is better (the difference between 48 light and 60 light is minimal, but the difference between 60cold and 72cold is considerable). Either way, you are probably going to have problems choosing your masteries at 100 cap. Also, I don't think that going hybrid str with a bow is really worth it, you'd probably do better by going pure str, as bowers depend mainly on their frequent and sort of strong critical attacks. Going hybrid wouldn't help on that, you'd end up only losing Hit Points, but then, your non-critical attacks would be stronger, so in the end it'd depend only on your personal opinion. Just make sure that if you go hybrid you have a snow shield maxed to what you can use without running out of mana points, because you'd rely more on it than a pure STR would.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:11 pm
by jyushinshuu
if u are hybrid then the only build for you is 90pancheon/light/cold.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 1:08 pm
by raphaell666
jyushinshuu wrote:if u are hybrid then the only build for you is 90pancheon/light/cold.
He said hybrid str, not hybrid int.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:13 pm
by jyushinshuu
my bad!!
i know many ppl making a new char cuz they regret being hybrid str.
but if 3:1 str hybrid then don't bother getting force
go pancheon/fire/light all the way to maximize ur damage.
cuz in real pvp force will be useless cuz ppl buy pills or being buffed by clerics and using vigors.
but in normal pvp ppl don;t buy pills cuz its expensive.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:16 pm
by XMoshe
jyushinshuu wrote:my bad!!
i know many ppl making a new char cuz they regret being hybrid str.
but if 3:1 str hybrid then don't bother getting force
go pancheon/fire/light all the way to maximize ur damage.
cuz in real pvp force will be useless cuz ppl buy pills or being buffed by clerics and using vigors.
but in normal pvp ppl don;t buy pills cuz its expensive.
Lol...Str hybrid without ice.
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:39 am
by cabal17
Hey if u want go 70:70 - 90/90/90 bow/cold/lightning and 30(u need choose here), full str- 90/90/90 bow/fire/force and 30 cold
Re: Force Bower?
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:31 pm
by Blaze Shot
LastProfet wrote:...100 cap its close..and bow get some nice skills on it...that are good for full str ,,, anyway..
yeah i agree with this guy... id go Pure Str dude