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Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:37 pm
by bloody
ill make a new char on titan but im a bit confused between a warrior or a bower..help me find a solution pls thx all

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:41 pm
by Fauntleroy
Bow is faster leveler cuz you have better range but warrior is better tanker.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:43 pm
by bloody
i want a great char for pvp...and grinding isnt a big problem =) cause there is a lot of partys

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:09 pm
by iMpulz
i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:19 am
by OTG
If you aren't concerned with PvE then I would go for Warrior/Cleric.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:33 am
by The Furious Ninja
OTG wrote:If you aren't concerned with PvE then I would go for Warrior/Cleric.

warrior warlock is cool too

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:59 am
by OTG
The Furious Ninja wrote:
OTG wrote:If you aren't concerned with PvE then I would go for Warrior/Cleric.

warrior warlock is cool too


But Warlock subclass is really only good against european characters without Cleric subclass and chinese players. Now a days in jobbing you'll be lucky to fight someone without Holy Spell.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:19 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
bloody wrote:i want a great char for pvp...and grinding isnt a big problem =) cause there is a lot of partys


Warrior is great for pvp, give them that one

i'd go with warrior on this point

iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


But bowers will be able to keep them at distance at 100 cap with the new arrow combo till the skins are gone.
At 100 cap, Bowers will be good at pvp and pve

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:03 pm
by Shadowfox542
iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


Seriously, this build as well as rogue/cleric pwn hard. For One on One pvp you will do over 9000 better if you get very effective at weapon switching. I am a rogue...which means I have little defense as daggers/xbow. However, a rogue with healing cycle, shield, glory passives, phy/mag buffs, and 32k hp is no joke.

As a warrior you'd want to use the combo of:
1. Dull (shield trash)
2. Bleed (Sudden twist)
3. Bind (Heaven Flash)
4. Turn Rising.
5. Triple swing.

Triple swing will hit 2.5 times damage, as well as bleed.

Win.


Archers are good, but honestly I get bored too quickly. One weapon, and all your skills (till like 73?) Have no statuses, KB, or KD. No weapon nuker would be my favorite chinese build, but boring as hell to play. Also, warriors would level much faster in a party.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:11 pm
by The Furious Ninja
Shadowfox542 wrote:
iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


Seriously, this build as well as rogue/cleric pwn hard. For One on One pvp you will do over 9000 better if you get very effective at weapon switching. I am a rogue...which means I have little defense as daggers/xbow. However, a rogue with healing cycle, shield, glory passives, phy/mag buffs, and 32k hp is no joke.

As a warrior you'd want to use the combo of:
1. Dull (shield trash)
2. Bleed (Sudden twist)
3. Bind (Heaven Flash)
4. Turn Rising.
5. Triple swing.

Triple swing will hit 2.5 times damage, as well as bleed.

Win.


Archers are good, but honestly I get bored too quickly. One weapon, and all your skills (till like 73?) Have no statuses, KB, or KD. No weapon nuker would be my favorite chinese build, but boring as hell to play. Also, warriors would level much faster in a party.


a harder combo to do but far more devestating, harder cause knock down can get laggy.

1. dull with sheild bash
2. switch to 2 hander turn rising, if knock down works switch to 1 hander
3. while they are still knocked down do cunning stab 720% dmg combo, plus they dmg they already took from knocking them down

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:43 pm
by OTG
Shadowfox542 wrote:
iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


Seriously, this build as well as rogue/cleric pwn hard. For One on One pvp you will do over 9000 better if you get very effective at weapon switching. I am a rogue...which means I have little defense as daggers/xbow. However, a rogue with healing cycle, shield, glory passives, phy/mag buffs, and 32k hp is no joke.

As a warrior you'd want to use the combo of:
1. Dull (shield trash)
2. Bleed (Sudden twist)
3. Bind (Heaven Flash)
4. Turn Rising.
5. Triple swing.

Triple swing will hit 2.5 times damage, as well as bleed.

Win.


Archers are good, but honestly I get bored too quickly. One weapon, and all your skills (till like 73?) Have no statuses, KB, or KD. No weapon nuker would be my favorite chinese build, but boring as hell to play. Also, warriors would level much faster in a party.


With my warrior I would do Bind first. Because I can have the phy and mag def buffs on me and can heal myself just in case. Then I would Shield Crush while holding a cleric rod and then switch to DA and give them bleed. THEN I would go for Turn Rising and Tripple Swing. Much better combo this way.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:35 pm
by Shadowfox542
OTG wrote:
Shadowfox542 wrote:
iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


Seriously, this build as well as rogue/cleric pwn hard. For One on One pvp you will do over 9000 better if you get very effective at weapon switching. I am a rogue...which means I have little defense as daggers/xbow. However, a rogue with healing cycle, shield, glory passives, phy/mag buffs, and 32k hp is no joke.

As a warrior you'd want to use the combo of:
1. Dull (shield trash)
2. Bleed (Sudden twist)
3. Bind (Heaven Flash)
4. Turn Rising.
5. Triple swing.

Triple swing will hit 2.5 times damage, as well as bleed.

Win.


Archers are good, but honestly I get bored too quickly. One weapon, and all your skills (till like 73?) Have no statuses, KB, or KD. No weapon nuker would be my favorite chinese build, but boring as hell to play. Also, warriors would level much faster in a party.


With my warrior I would do Bind first. Because I can have the phy and mag def buffs on me and can heal myself just in case. Then I would Shield Crush while holding a cleric rod and then switch to DA and give them bleed. THEN I would go for Turn Rising and Tripple Swing. Much better combo this way.


Er......I don't think you've tried this...

Bind works 80% of the time and has a long cool down.

Shield trash does not work as often, and has a very very short cool down. It does not dull as often either.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:37 pm
by OTG
If bind doesn't work i'll just prolong the fight. I know what you mean though. Shiel Crush > Bind > Shield Crush. I rather do my combo because most of the time people cheat and use the pill spam bug. They need to fix that badly. It doesn't matter I quit Silkroad but there are many different types of combinations you can use out there. 80% is a very high chance of success.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:45 pm
by Shadowfox542
OTG wrote:If bind doesn't work i'll just prolong the fight. I know what you mean though. Shiel Crush > Bind > Shield Crush. I rather do my combo because most of the time people cheat and use the pill spam bug. They need to fix that badly. It doesn't matter I quit Silkroad but there are many different types of combinations you can use out there. 80% is a very high chance of success.


Indeed, 80% is indeed high chance. Just not sure how often you'll have the time to land dull/bleed/turn rising in 10 seconds. Kinda a shame that bind's cool down is long, but at least you can get both books. Hey, whatever works though.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:24 pm
by OTG
Shadowfox542 wrote:
OTG wrote:If bind doesn't work i'll just prolong the fight. I know what you mean though. Shiel Crush > Bind > Shield Crush. I rather do my combo because most of the time people cheat and use the pill spam bug. They need to fix that badly. It doesn't matter I quit Silkroad but there are many different types of combinations you can use out there. 80% is a very high chance of success.


Indeed, 80% is indeed high chance. Just not sure how often you'll have the time to land dull/bleed/turn rising in 10 seconds. Kinda a shame that bind's cool down is long, but at least you can get both books. Hey, whatever works though.


True. Usually if I can get all three of the statuses on them and just 1 crit in one of the Tripple Swing hits (Usually first or last) they'll die.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:38 am
by the_wicked
heaven flash is only optional.

i never need to use it, ends too fast.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:10 am
by OTG
the_wicked wrote:heaven flash is only optional.

i never need to use it, ends too fast.


+1

I usually use it when starting up the match or if some noob attacks me out of no where. I'll use Healing Cycle, maybe a self heal instant skill if they get my hp low enough and then use it and retreat, buff up and then attack.

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:20 am
by iMpulz
iMpulz wrote:i would go for a warrior.. if i were u, i would farm for a 1hand/2hand/dual axes/cleric warrior.. i personally own one and well.. its great on pvp.. opponents with equal equip. dont have any chances.. even chinese str with snow.. cant tank them wihout bless or skins.. for sure if i play smart.. s/s inters may cause some problems.. but without snowshield, they r 1hit..(forgot to say that i wear light armor).

i hope i could make ur decision a bit easier ;)


Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:But bowers will be able to keep them at distance at 100 cap with the new arrow combo till the skins are gone.
At 100 cap, Bowers will be good at pvp and pve


Sry my mistake, i meant "CAN tank them without.."

I never use skins/bless at 1v1.. So i dont think it will be hard at 10dg to kill the bowers if u play smart and if u know how to handle these 3 weaps..

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:46 pm
by Azraela
Id' say go light bow, because then you can do great damage, and run away when people try to attack you. haha. :D

Re: Warrior ? Bower ? Help Me

Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:12 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
iMpulz wrote:I never use skins/bless at 1v1.. So i dont think it will be hard at 10dg to kill the bowers if u play smart and if u know how to handle these 3 weaps..


well, any build can kill another if you know how to play it
and i guess you will lose against another warrior if he can play it too

and as for bowers: i am not saying the 100 cap will make them own all other builds..
they still are and will stay offensive support builds since they cannot tank enough or deal major damage without crits