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Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:23 am
by fatesepics
I recently acquired this char from my cousin who is already playing Perfect World. I have a lvl 40 str heuksal of my own, but I have no idea what to do with this toon.

I'm on full protector gear lvl 80-86 all from +1 to +4 with some blues. You can see my sword stats below. You can see my skills masteries below too, 77 bicheon/70 ice/86 light/57 fire.

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I'm pretty disappointed with this char. I was outside Donwhang pvp'ing and I attacked a lvl 90 dude I did 5k dmg to him with my horses thunderbolt with imbue fully buffed. And he nuked me right back for 14.5k dmg. Now, I don't expect to be a killing machine against pros but I'd just like to be able to play my char to it's fullest potential. I dont know if I'm doing something wrong or if something needs improvement but I definitely need help. Is the build ok? Do I need to reallocate SP? Do I need garment gear? Do I just need better gear? Or anything else I can't think of? Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thank you very much in advance.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:25 am
by GreenTea
Ew.

90Ice/Light/Bich, 30 fire.

SP farm at mages or Antiokes with a 9 gap to start.

But that char..

Ew

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:28 am
by Tasdik
Well for starters all your skills *cept lightening* are really low.
Also your something like a 1:6 hybrid give or take. So your nukes are gonna be weaker then a pure int.
Also lvl 90's normally have godly gear.

And yeah go with what GreenTea suggested.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:30 am
by GreenTea
Tasdik wrote:Well for starters all your skills *cept lightening* are really low.
Also your something like a 1:6 hybrid give or take. So your nukes are gonna be weaker then a pure int.
Also lvl 90's normally have godly gear.

And yeah go with what GreenTea suggested.


Let's be friends ^^

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:33 am
by Tasdik
GreenTea wrote:
Tasdik wrote:Well for starters all your skills *cept lightening* are really low.
Also your something like a 1:6 hybrid give or take. So your nukes are gonna be weaker then a pure int.
Also lvl 90's normally have godly gear.

And yeah go with what GreenTea suggested.


Let's be friends ^^


:)

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:36 pm
by borat2
If you got enough money or gold to delevel bicheon switch your char to heuksal instead of sword.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:25 pm
by Tasdik
borat2 wrote:If you got enough money or gold to delevel bicheon switch your char to heuksal instead of sword.

Was thinking the same thing.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:31 pm
by jyushinshuu
i don't know how much hybrid u are but in that magical balance i think u should go for 90bich/fire and 60light/cold its for the best for ur build.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:12 pm
by Sly
jyushinshuu wrote:i don't know how much hybrid u are but in that magical balance i think u should go for 90bich/fire and 60light/cold its for the best for ur build.


what he said, take down ice and light to 60, raise fire for more damage; add all stat points to int (duh..)

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:31 pm
by Fauntleroy
Hmm. I understand why he left sro.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:35 pm
by jyushinshuu
ahahahaah, yea!!! but its not that bad, he just didn't upgrade the skills correctly to play that hybrid right.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:49 pm
by mburf5
If you don't mind putting in the work, I'd say do what Borat said, delevel bich and go heuksal, then try for 90 heuksal/ice/light. If you don't want to do that much work, but you'll lose power as a result, take down fire from 57 to 30 and do 90 bich/ice/light. Since I'm lazy, that is what I'd do LOL. Oh and make sure you put those last couple levels all int.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:32 am
by houtertje
i also think u should switch too heuksal.

ur pretty hybrid so heuksal will give more damage and u will have nice hp.
heuk90.light90.cold90.fire30

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:20 pm
by fatesepics
thanks for a good feedback, sorry i couldn't answer sooner.

lets assume i wanna stay bicheon for time and money purposes.
-should i go 90bicheon/90light/90ice or 90fire/90light or 90fire/ice?
-or is 90bich/fire and 60light/cold the way to go? just looking for different opinions
-i want to do more damage so would 90 fire def be the way to go?
-and is snow shield a must for a low hp char?

thanks for the help guys

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:55 am
by fobbytommy
or what you can do is...

if you have two computer..

plvl another character using that lvl 86

it will be very helpful

otherwise hmm since its hybrid
I dont recommand 90 on cold but 30 on fire...cuz you do kinda need some m. def too

so... 90bich/light and 60cold/60fire
but if you don't want to dlvl your skills with curse heart
just go with 90bich/light and 70cold/50fire..
I dont know anyone who do this.. but yeah that will be less painful :)

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:30 pm
by jyushinshuu
you have no other choice but to go for 90 fire/bicheon and 60 cold/light. It is the best for your char. don't go light 90 cuz its not worth it.

i have a friend in our server who is hybrid close to yours and his masteries are bich/fire 90 and light/cold 60, he was really strong and he has also good damage of nukes.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:33 pm
by DumboDii
Give that char to me. Problem solved.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:39 pm
by Crowley
That character's pretty disgusting...

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:03 pm
by muyo
take off gear and show us ur stat plz.If 88% with gears then ur nuke will be as low as 70:70 or 1:2 int build and cannot expect much from it,use weapon skill instead

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:00 am
by DumboDii
Sorry but you really have to use spear. There's no point in using s/s if you are not full int.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:35 pm
by raphaell666
@fatesepics
You char is lvl 87?
Could you tell us your stats naked? It would help a lot. Simply take of all your equips and send us a screen of your complete character window (the window that appear when you press C).
It seems that you are something near to 2:1 - 3:1 hybrid int, therefore using sword you'll be kind of weak, while you don't really need the defense it offers. I'd agree with others and say you should go with spear. Your character is not supposed to do heavy damage with nukes as it is now. You should, if you want to keep it and using sword, focus more on using meele attacks while pvping, like a blader would do. It's your strong points imo. You'll be strong that way.
And looking at your screenshots, it looks like you are wearing armor? Lol man, you'd suck using that. At least use a protector though I'd strongly suggest garment. It'd reduce a lot the damage of nukes and other ints on you, while it'd improve your performance under snow shield (because of 20% Mp consumption reduce). You should not be weak with that char, you are like a heavy damaging blader, which is not weak at all. Simply get debuffs from lightning chain on your enemy, and things will change drastically. If you learn how to use that char I doubt you'll be weak. Simply learn how to use it.

About masteries, I'd say you should go with, at 90 cap, 90bicheon/90fire/60light/60cold as jyushinshuu already stated. That way you'll be improving the performance of your char a lot. And using fire imbue of course. At 100 cap, I don't know what you should do, I'd have to give it more thought. Probably 100bicheon/100fire/70cold/30light or something like that.

And, to be honest, you are disappointed with that char only because it's either not a type of char which you think is fun/you like, or because you don't know how to use it.

By the way, snow shield is not a must, though it helps a LOT while doing anything, even more for int characters such as yours.

Tsume wrote:That character's pretty disgusting...

I disagree. No chinese character is disgusting in my opinion, because if you simply know what masteries and equipment to use on it, it'll be strong.

DumboDii wrote:Sorry but you really have to use spear. There's no point in using s/s if you are not full int.

There's not such a thing. If he wants more defense, and accepts losing some damage, I see no point in going with spear.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:17 pm
by thechampion80
prepare for a lot of delvling...

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:27 pm
by fatesepics
still pretty lost idk what to do. with no gear str168/int308 mag balance 81%

appreciate the help guys, ty

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:02 am
by muyo
for me ur build is still good, put the rest of stat point to int and in the end with nearly perfect blue ull get 100% mag balance which is for me still good when combine with fire.

Pimp ur weapon and gears u should do fine.

Re: Lvl 87 198str/334int s/s needs help!

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:48 am
by LillDev!l
Heuksal would be best indeed, and then 90 light/90 ice/90 heuksal would be nice ^__^

The reason you hit so low on level 90's and they hit so high on you is because (as someone else mentioned before) other level 90's have "godly" gear... mostly +5/6 gear with perfect blues and high parry, +7 weps and shields are also pretty common so ^^
So if you want to do atleast decent damage to those people you'dd need gear with atleast int 5/6 on everything, and preferably a higher mag reinf on your sword ^^
And for your defence, it'dd be nice if you can get everything to +4 ^^ but yea, elixers are expensive aswell eh =]

Gd luck with the char ! ^^