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Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:16 pm
by NO_SILK_4_ME
What masteries would be best for my 90:40 str hybrid bower? Currently I have:

-80 pacheon
-70 fire
-65 light
-51 ice
-7 heuksai (>_> dunno)

I'm thinking about going at the cap:

-90 pacheon
-90 fire
-90 light
-30 cold

OR:

-90 pacheon
-90 fire
-72 light
-48 cold

OR:

-90 pacheon
-90 fire
-90 light
-30 heuksai (hp increase)

Which one of those do you think is best in pvp?

I'm also open to new suggestions. Thanks!

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:25 pm
by Crowley
I think you need to get more out of ice. I'd recommend the 90 fire/pacheon 72 ice 48 light. It's great for PvP because of all the defense and of course the fire imbue. And besides, you're on the str side of hybrid, you don't need light at 72

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:28 pm
by C1ockwork
90 Pach/Fire/Force 30 Ice

definetly not the heuksal one too

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:41 pm
by BloodyBlade
Why the fuck would you want pacheon at only lv80?
Your weapon mastery needs to be highest possible imo.

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:48 pm
by raphaell666
BloodyBlade wrote:Why the fuck would you want pacheon at only lv80?
Your weapon mastery needs to be highest possible imo.

+1 Your weapon mastery must be as high as possible, otherwise don't take it at all. Note that STR builds must have a weapon mastery.

And probably the best build in my opinion would be:
Tsume wrote:90 fire/pacheon 72 ice 48 light

:)

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:53 pm
by BloodyBlade
I just saw I made a fool of myself :D

Ive read it waay too fast & I thought you wanted to have 80pacheon at 90 cap, srry ;p

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:03 pm
by raphaell666
BloodyBlade wrote:I just saw I made a fool of myself :D

Ive read it waay too fast & I thought you wanted to have 80pacheon at 90 cap, srry ;p

lol, I read your reply and then took a fast look at the first reply and I made the same mistake as you. :P

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:12 pm
by Crowley
Hmm, now's the time for that sig with that black guy in it that says "Read the mother fucking topic before you mother fucking post" Lawl

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:12 pm
by Polemique
Whats about force on level 90?
Or dont you thing its worth maxing it with all the euros?

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:14 pm
by Crowley
Polemique wrote:Whats about force on level 90?
Or dont you thing its worth maxing it with all the euros?


If you'd read his sig you'd see that his archer is on ecSRO. ^^

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:44 pm
by Ragnorak
I find bowers lacking phy. def..so anything with higher ice would be better. sure they can kb..but when they get stun there HP drops fast

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:15 pm
by Nitro
Polemique wrote:Whats about force on level 90?
Or dont you thing its worth maxing it with all the euros?


Holy Word will be reduced to 50% at lv.100

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:23 pm
by BloodyBlade
Nitro wrote:
Polemique wrote:Whats about force on level 90?
Or dont you thing its worth maxing it with all the euros?


Holy Word will be reduced to 50% at lv.100

Depends on. I havent seen it in CSRO yet. ;p

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:38 pm
by NO_SILK_4_ME
Tsume wrote:I think you need to get more out of ice. I'd recommend the 90 fire/pacheon 72 ice 48 light. It's great for PvP because of all the defense and of course the fire imbue. And besides, you're on the str side of hybrid, you don't need light at 72


I see what you mean. I think I'll go with that build once I get farking 300 cursed hearts to d-lvl my light. :banghead: :banghead:

EDIT: The 90pach/90fire/72cold/48light option is added to poll.

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:21 pm
by Shadowfox542
Ice is pretty useless (cept for snow) until 60, when the buff increases from 24 to 42.

And at 60 the passive increases 18 to 42.

So lv58 ice gives you 42 physical defense, and lv60 ice gives you 84.

On the other hand, your a hybrid, so light is good to have as a higher level skill. Mabye Pacheon 90 fire 90 light60 cold60?

100cap Bow100 Fire100 cold60 light40? or Bow100 fire90 cold60 light50?

Infact, it would save you an insane amount of SP to go with fire90 at 100cap.

This is one of the issues I'm facing...I want to farm an archer for 100cap, but I am already working on a s/s nuker.

From what I can tell hybrid's don't work too well for bow...
More int=less defense, can use Higher snow shield
Which messes with the benefits of light, as the more int you have the higher light should be.

Enjoy your dilemma.

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:00 pm
by raphaell666
Shadowfox542 wrote:On the other hand, your a hybrid, so light is good to have as a higher level skill. Mabye Pacheon 90 fire 90 light60 cold60?
Why light is good as a higher when the difference between high light and low light is pretty much negligible?

100cap Bow100 Fire100 cold60 light40? or Bow100 fire90 cold60 light50?
For 100 cap I'd go 100pacheon/100fire/100-70cold/0-30light for max defense and both fire and ice walls but still good damage.

Infact, it would save you an insane amount of SP to go with fire90 at 100cap.
He's a hybrid. He will deal a considerable amount of damage coming from the imbue, it'll probably be a waste to go with 90 imbue at 100 cap.

From what I can tell hybrid's don't work too well for bow...
You are deeply wrong. In fact no hybrid Chinese build is weak if you use the correct masteries and hybrid bowers have proven to be strong at different caps so far.

More int=less defense, can use Higher snow shield
Which messes with the benefits of light, as the more int you have the higher light should be.
Eh, no. That's a negative. In fact at current cap a lot of pure ints are going for 90bicheon/90fire/90cold/30light, simply because 30 light is enough.

Enjoy your dilemma.
I don't really see a dilemma here but whatever.


Tsume wrote:Hmm, now's the time for that sig with that black guy in it that says "Read the mother fucking topic before you mother fucking post" Lawl

lol :cry: :love:

Re: Questions Regarding Bower's Mastery. ^_^

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:45 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_ยด)
raphaell666 for characters and skills patron lol