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I have a hybrid spear... i have putted 12points to Str... but i wanne chanche to S/S becoase the block and the chains and the knockdownz... <--- They Own ! but wich are the best masteryz and how i have to be ??? 1:8 or 1:5 ??? Say also the masterys and how it have to be if Hybrid spear is beter and switching is not worth for it...

Plzz help me... I don't wanne ruine my char again ...
Thx alot

It depends on what you prefer. Neither one's better.
I'll try to help you.

Hybrid spear I'd suggest 1:8 heavy int hybrid, with 90heuksal/90cold and then either 90light (for max speed/mobility and better at group pvping) or 90 fire (for improved mag defense, more nukes and better 1vs1 pvping performance). With spear you'd have lower survivability but higher damage.

Sword I'd suggest you to go pure int from now on (I don't think those 12 str points would trouble you at all, they would maybe even help, but I say you should put more 8 STR just to have 20 str), and go either 90bicheon/90cold/90light or 90fire for the same reasons as stated above. With sword you'd have more survivability but lower damage.

raphaell666 wrote:It depends on what you prefer. Neither one's better.
I'll try to help you.

Hybrid spear I'd suggest 1:8 heavy int hybrid, with 90heuksal/90cold and then either 90light (for max speed/mobility and better at group pvping) or 90 fire (for improved mag defense, more nukes and better 1vs1 pvping performance). With spear you'd have lower survivability but higher damage.

Sword I'd suggest you to go pure int from now on (I don't think those 12 str points would trouble you at all, they would maybe even help, but I say you should put more 8 STR just to have 20 str), and go either 90bicheon/90cold/90light or 90fire for the same reasons as stated above. With sword you'd have more survivability but lower damage.

The nukedamage would it be alot lower then spear?
and thx for the helpfull comment

Cya

JVC wrote:The nukedamage would it be alot lower then spear?
and thx for the helpfull comment

Cya

I'm not 100% sure, but the difference will not be THAT big if compared to a hybrid spear, but will still be noticeably lower. If it's between a hybrid sword and a hybrid spear then I'd say the difference is big. No problem.

raphaell666 wrote:

JVC wrote:The nukedamage would it be alot lower then spear?
and thx for the helpfull comment

Cya

I'm not 100% sure, but the difference will not be THAT big if compared to a hybrid spear, but will still be noticeably lower. If it's between a hybrid sword and a hybrid spear then I'd say the difference is big. No problem.

is the damage big if i go to SS and put 20points to str ( intotal) and the rest to int...comparing to a 1:8 hybrid spear ???

JVC wrote:is the damage big if i go to SS and put 20points to str ( intotal) and the rest to int...comparing to a 1:8 hybrid spear ???

Hybrid spear would deal noticeably more damage as far as I know.

There is not a very high difference between spear & sword (same build ofc). BUT, bicheon chains can give bleed/divsion !
Bleed -> same or slightly higher damage than spear
Division -> quite a lot higher than spear
bleed + division -> outdamages spear alot, nukes hit (almost) double ><

Also keep in mind: s/s vs spear (pvp)
spear does bigger damage, but s/s has shield which reduces the "extra" damage spear has over sword + u have a blocking chance

Heuksal:
*Stun
*Dull
*HP increase
*KB
*15 sec mag def

Bicheon:
*Bleed (x2)
*Impotent
*Division
*KD + Stabs(4!)
*br increase
*15 sec phy def
(@ cap 100: new chain can give stun, dull, fear)

1:8 = 30 str points
1:7 = 33/34 str points
20 str points is not enough to make any real difference, so go for 30 str points

Razorhead wrote:1:8 = 30 str points
1:7 = 33/34 str points
20 str points is not enough to make any real difference, so go for 30 str points

As far as I know, for a s/s you don't really need any extra hp, so going pure int for max damage would be the best. If he wants hybrid then I agree he should go for 30 str points.

Excellent reply by the way.

Razorhead wrote:There is not a very high difference between spear & sword (same build ofc). BUT, bicheon chains can give bleed/divsion !
Bleed -> same or slightly higher damage than spear
Division -> quite a lot higher than spear
bleed + division -> outdamages spear alot, nukes hit (almost) double ><

Also keep in mind: s/s vs spear (pvp)
spear does bigger damage, but s/s has shield which reduces the "extra" damage spear has over sword + u have a blocking chance

Heuksal:
*Stun
*Dull
*HP increase
*KB
*15 sec mag def

Bicheon:
*Bleed (x2)
*Impotent
*Division
*KD + Stabs(4!)
*br increase
*15 sec phy def
(@ cap 100: new chain can give stun, dull, fear)

1:8 = 30 str points
1:7 = 33/34 str points
20 str points is not enough to make any real difference, so go for 30 str points

Owow !!! Thanks alot for the advice !!!
But wich do you prefer ? SS or spear... I think now SS but does it still do nice nuke damage???
Cya

JVC wrote:Owow !!! Thanks alot for the advice !!!
But wich do you prefer ? SS or spear... I think now SS but does it still do nice nuke damage???
Cya

I'm s/s 1:7; cold,light,bich 90 & fire 30
And it kicks ass

Yeah, sword does good damage ^^
@ higher lvl it even grinds faster then spear if the normal mob is 1 shot (+ shout) cuz bleed/division causes giants/pt mobs to go down much faster

division + kd + 4 stabs (with at least 1 crit) and opponent will be (almost) dead

Generally if you want higher damage, go spear, but your defense won't be as strong and you can die pretty quick.

On the other hand, if you want to be able to tank more, go sword, but you wont hit as high. Now its really up to your personal taste. IMO, I'd go s/s because your nukes still hit relatively high compared to full str builds. And dying every hour is annoying too.

First i wanne say Thanks to you all for the helpfull advice !!!
Thx alot really^^

But i think i will go 1:8int S/S and the mastery gone be 90bich/Fire/Cold and 30light...
Is that good? i chose it because you have high phy and mage defence and nice snowshield but
BAD mobility but i can fix that with drug of typhoon. But is it a nice build? Good in PVP,Jobbing,killing uniques,PVE? and in pvp wich are the hardest to kill and the easiest 1? But is it a good build for 100gap because alot of people say that light alot better is for 100gap...Is that true?
So this are my last questions... I think

Cya

Yeah, it's a nice build. It's good in everything and against everything. Probably your worst enemies will be european warlocks. I don't think light is a lot better for 100 cap, I'm pretty sure it'll remain the same or worst because you'll have only one nuke from lightning at 100 (unless you want to use one which is 14lvls lower).

1Thing i still don't understand...
all to positive replys are for SS but the polls says that Spear is better...
plz Spearguyz tell why it's better? or not you may also say it SSguyz or ladyz?

Thx alot

You shouldn't really care about other people opinions, you should choose what you prefer, not what they prefer. I believe we've already explained everything you needed to you. Now you just decide yourself according to what you prefer/like. If you still have any questions just ask.

JVC wrote:1Thing i still don't understand...
all to positive replys are for SS but the polls says that Spear is better...
plz Spearguyz tell why it's better? or not you may also say it SSguyz or ladyz?

Thx alot

i've voted spear but not because its better than s/s, not at all.
it just deals more damage with phy skills and mag nukez, and some of us just look forward to be more offensive, perhaps, idk.
but still, s/s is great and u'll do a lot of dmg too, dun worry about it and u'll have a way better def.

raphaell666 wrote:You shouldn't really care about other people opinions, you should choose what you prefer, not what they prefer. I believe we've already explained everything you needed to you. Now you just decide yourself according to what you prefer/like. If you still have any questions just ask.

and yes, he should. If he ask something and ppl answer, he should take care of, which dosen't mean do everything others said.

raphaell666 wrote:You shouldn't really care about other people opinions, you should choose what you prefer, not what they prefer. I believe we've already explained everything you needed to you. Now you just decide yourself according to what you prefer/like. If you still have any questions just ask.

Ok i think i know it now but I definatly need to say!
THANKZz alot raphael666 !!! You own! and you helped me so nice !!!
Fanilly i have the feeling that my build is going well... Thx to you! and also the otherz who helped me out! It's gone be bich,fire,cold 90 and light 30 and 1:8int !! does someone knows the naked balance maybe?

Cya

hyma wrote:

JVC wrote:1Thing i still don't understand...
all to positive replys are for SS but the polls says that Spear is better...
plz Spearguyz tell why it's better? or not you may also say it SSguyz or ladyz?

Thx alot

i've voted spear but not because its better than s/s, not at all.
it just deals more damage with phy skills and mag nukez, and some of us just look forward to be more offensive, perhaps, idk.
but still, s/s is great and u'll do a lot of dmg too, dun worry about it and u'll have a way better def.

raphaell666 wrote:You shouldn't really care about other people opinions, you should choose what you prefer, not what they prefer. I believe we've already explained everything you needed to you. Now you just decide yourself according to what you prefer/like. If you still have any questions just ask.

and yes, he should. If he ask something and ppl answer, he should take care of, which dosen't mean do everything others said.

Yheah oke but just was afraid of it was maybe bad or something but know i now it !!!
I love fire nukez and the KD and the Chains so i know i have to go for it ^^
Thx

@hyma
What I tried to say is: You should not do what other people prefer, you have to do what you prefer. That doesn't mean you should not listen to experienced people and such, it's just that after you understand it, you have to choose what you prefer. Hope it's more clear now.

JVC wrote:Ok i think i know it now but I definatly need to say!
THANKZz alot raphael666 !!! You own! and you helped me so nice !!!
Fanilly i have the feeling that my build is going well... Thx to you! and also the otherz who helped me out! It's gone be bich,fire,cold 90 and light 30 and 1:8int !! does someone knows the naked balance maybe?

If I recall it correctly it's 89% mag balance naked.

I'm really glad to hear (or read?) that.

@rapha Sir yes Sir!

Good luck JVC.

hyma wrote:@rapha Sir yes Sir!

lawl.

umh, my brother's character was hybrid spear, he changed to hybrid sword. he did more damage with the spear, but now with the sword he is able to kd/stab/and give bleed/division/and impotent.

Is it a good idea i go naked mage balance 90% ?
Cya

JVC wrote:Is it a good idea i go naked mage balance 90% ?
Cya

It's almost exactly the same as a 1:8 hybrid int.