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Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:53 am
by fobbytommy
Should I just get 1 snow shield so I only get 20% mp absorption?
People told me that if blader get 30% absorption or more
it cant use a skill at all due to mp loss while using the skill
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And for 90 cap again
I know i am doing 90 Bicheon/90 Fire
Can you guys tell me whether I should get more cold or more lightening?
and reasons?
If I get more cold i get more p. def.
but if i get more lightening i get more speed (i am planning to master that speed thingy which gives me 77 percent speed)
I am gonna job and pvp alot more than just grinding.

Thank you so much again guys !
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:28 am
by Intentions
fobbytommy wrote:Should I just get 1 snow shield so I only get 20% mp absorption?
People told me that if blader get 30% absorption or more
it cant use a skill at all due to mp loss while using the skill
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And for 90 cap again
I know i am doing 90 Bicheon/90 Fire
Can you guys tell me whether I should get more cold or more lightening?
and reasons?
If I get more cold i get more p. def.
but if i get more lightening i get more speed (i am planning to master that speed thingy which gives me 77 percent speed)
I am gonna job and pvp alot more than just grinding.

Thank you so much again guys !
im a blader and MY personal build is
90-bich/fire
68-ice
52-light
bich and fire are a must
68 ice gets me might guard of ice,frost wall, and snow sheild freeze
52 light gets me grass walk speed
most people say go 60 light/ice
from light 52-60 you get nothing usefull to a blader
wear garm of course
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:20 am
by fobbytommy
snow shield.. hmm
So you got that lvl 40% one?
I thought that blader wont be using higher snow shield dude to massive mp consumtion..
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:42 am
by Intentions
fobbytommy wrote:snow shield.. hmm
So you got that lvl 40% one?
I thought that blader wont be using higher snow shield dude to massive mp consumtion..
you dont HAVE to use the max snow sheild
use the one that works according to the situation
if its 1 v 1 pvp and you dont need to tank much then use 1st book
if your the tanker of the party use the highest one you have
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:37 pm
by SNAPPA
Ever think of just asking these questions in the same thread instead of starting a BUNCH of new ones?
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:26 pm
by Intentions
SNAPPA wrote:Ever think of just asking these questions in the same thread instead of starting a BUNCH of new ones?
maybe he couldnt find a new one
if you see a repeat thread why come and look anyways
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:46 pm
by SNAPPA
He has started at least 4 new threads all asking questions about STR bladers. He could have just continued in ONE thread that he started.
Easier for him. Less annoying for us.
Thats all.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:05 am
by HBblade
90 blade, fire, light, 20ice, 10 bow (low for an extra 18 attack rating)
yeah, 20% ss is pretty good for a blader any more & u'd just b running arnd trying to replenish some mp
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:39 am
by reyboy7
Intentions wrote:fobbytommy wrote:Should I just get 1 snow shield so I only get 20% mp absorption?
People told me that if blader get 30% absorption or more
it cant use a skill at all due to mp loss while using the skill
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And for 90 cap again
I know i am doing 90 Bicheon/90 Fire
Can you guys tell me whether I should get more cold or more lightening?
and reasons?
If I get more cold i get more p. def.
but if i get more lightening i get more speed (i am planning to master that speed thingy which gives me 77 percent speed)
I am gonna job and pvp alot more than just grinding.

Thank you so much again guys !
im a blader and MY personal build is
90-bich/fire
68-ice
52-light
bich and fire are a must
68 ice gets me might guard of ice,frost wall, and snow sheild freeze
52 light gets me grass walk speed
most people say go 60 light/ice
from light 52-60 you get nothing usefull to a blader
wear garm of course
why not make
90-bich/fire
70 ice
50 light
so that the passive for ice will be upgrade to 7 and passive for light still 5,.. . i gues this is much better than 68-52 ice light.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:42 am
by Intentions
reyboy7 wrote:Intentions wrote:fobbytommy wrote:Should I just get 1 snow shield so I only get 20% mp absorption?
People told me that if blader get 30% absorption or more
it cant use a skill at all due to mp loss while using the skill
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And for 90 cap again
I know i am doing 90 Bicheon/90 Fire
Can you guys tell me whether I should get more cold or more lightening?
and reasons?
If I get more cold i get more p. def.
but if i get more lightening i get more speed (i am planning to master that speed thingy which gives me 77 percent speed)
I am gonna job and pvp alot more than just grinding.

Thank you so much again guys !
im a blader and MY personal build is
90-bich/fire
68-ice
52-light
bich and fire are a must
68 ice gets me might guard of ice,frost wall, and snow sheild freeze
52 light gets me grass walk speed
most people say go 60 light/ice
from light 52-60 you get nothing usefull to a blader
wear garm of course
why not make
90-bich/fire
70 ice
50 light
so that the passive for ice will be upgrade to 7 and passive for light still 5,.. . i gues this is much better than 68-52 ice light.
68 ice gets me might guard of ice,frost wall, and snow sheild freeze
52 light gets me grass walk speed
most people say go 60 light/ice
from light 52-60 you get nothing usefull to a blader
stated already
your are str blader dont really need more phys def
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:15 am
by fobbytommy
SNAPPA wrote:He has started at least 4 new threads all asking questions about STR bladers. He could have just continued in ONE thread that he started.
Easier for him. Less annoying for us.
Thats all.
Nice thing to say
But those are different questions you know, with my other opinions...hmm I don't know why so flamie ? but I will take it in as a concern
Anyways thanks to OTHER people who answered my question I really appreciated it

I decided to go .. hmm I dunno...i guess my own way?
Some reason.. I just like speed too much o.O
I decided to go 90 Bicheon/ fire of course..and...
72 on Lightening and 48 Cold...
That way I get minimum snow shield and minimum p. def buff (16)
but I can get more speed, more m. attack buff, and more parry ratio (which I heard that doesnt matter to bladers that much >.<)
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:22 pm
by Zycor
HBblade wrote:90 blade, fire, light, 20ice, 10 bow (low for an extra 18 attack rating)
yeah, 20% ss is pretty good for a blader any more & u'd just b running arnd trying to replenish some mp
thats the first time i heard someone say something smart.
anyone who goes off and says 'get ice to 70!' or whatever, doesn't know how to play the game. snow shield at 20 is already more then enough.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:45 am
by raphaell666
Zycor wrote:anyone who goes off and says 'get ice to 70!' or whatever, doesn't know how to play the game.
Do not talk about something if you have no idea of what you are going to talk about. Getting cold is not only about snow shield. Think a little bit.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:50 am
by Intentions
raphaell666 wrote:Zycor wrote:anyone who goes off and says 'get ice to 70!' or whatever, doesn't know how to play the game.
Do not talk about something if you have no idea of what you are going to talk about. Getting cold is not only about snow shield. Think a little bit.
+1
maybe you dont know how to play the game
think a little bit
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 5:10 pm
by Zycor
Intentions wrote:raphaell666 wrote:Zycor wrote:anyone who goes off and says 'get ice to 70!' or whatever, doesn't know how to play the game.
Do not talk about something if you have no idea of what you are going to talk about. Getting cold is not only about snow shield. Think a little bit.
+1
maybe you dont know how to play the game
think a little bit
anybody with a decent gear already has the defense to tank multiple strength without the phy def from the cold mastery. people always talk about how bladers are weak, and its cuz people duno how to play it right. once you get to level 85+ then start talkin about knowin how to play the game.
anotha note, the one build bladers will have the highest problem against is a s/s with a good snow shield defense. wuts the point of gettin a higher defense to tank the strength builds which you can already tank good enough.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:50 pm
by Intentions
anybody with a decent gear already has the defense to tank multiple strength without the phy def from the cold mastery. people always talk about how bladers are weak, and its cuz people duno how to play it right. once you get to level 85+ then start talkin about knowin how to play the game.
anotha note, the one build bladers will have the highest problem against is a s/s with a good snow shield defense. wuts the point of gettin a higher defense to tank the strength builds which you can already tank good enough.[/quote]
saying rogue can 1 shot people, warriors are the king of pvp right now
i think phys def is important ESPECIALY for a tanking build
and i had this char when it was 80 cap doesnt mean i dont know how to play
i own other characters on different servers but quit them
and you already have the best def against s/s, light wont help in any way against them
getting speed wont help you kill a s/s
and a pvp against a blader and s/s basically depends on who gets the knock downs and crits
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:46 pm
by raphaell666
Zycor wrote:anybody with a decent gear already has the defense to tank multiple strength without the phy def from the cold mastery. people always talk about how bladers are weak, and its cuz people duno how to play it right. once you get to level 85+ then start talkin about knowin how to play the game.
That's true pretty much only for bladers. Bladers are not
weak, they just are the worse damage dealers, but the best tankers. They have, as any other build, strengths and weaknesses. I'm pretty sure that higher cold would help you way more than higher lightning and you cannot deny that. You chose max speed over defense on your char, that's not a problem, it's your personal choice and you'll suffer it's consequences wanting or not. If you choose defense then you'll lack speed and suffer it's consequences.
And still,
Zycor wrote:anyone who goes off and says 'get ice to 70!' or whatever, doesn't know how to play the game. snow shield at 20 is already more then enough.
You fail.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:14 pm
by hyma
fobbytommy wrote:Should I just get 1 snow shield so I only get 20% mp absorption?
People told me that if blader get 30% absorption or more
it cant use a skill at all due to mp loss while using the skill
20% work great on pure str.
just [=====[+%]==] your mp pots and u'll be fine

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fobbytommy wrote:And for 90 cap again
I know i am doing 90 Bicheon/90 Fire
Can you guys tell me whether I should get more cold or more lightening?
and reasons?
If I get more cold i get more p. def.
but if i get more lightening i get more speed (i am planning to master that speed thingy which gives me 77 percent speed)
I am gonna job and pvp alot more than just grinding.

Thank you so much again guys !
light, no doubt.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:43 pm
by jyushinshuu
go bich/fire/cold maxed for ultimate tanking ability. just use snow shield novice if u want to pvp and use snow shield intensify for show off. u dont need light cuz ur a tank build not a killer build speed does not worth it, just buy drugs.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:59 pm
by DGamer
yea thts a good idea
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:04 pm
by Raipe
For 100 gap, id say
100 Bich - 100 Fire - 52 Light - 48 Ice
Ill try that, or light and ice otherway around.
Bladers surely are for tanking, but we dont like to be slow either.
Im gonna take that upper gap style, im sure of it

Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:49 pm
by HBblade
unless u plan to just be slow super tank, then ice 90 all the way
other than that, i'd rather be a fast str blader w/ some mag.attk boost from light, parry defence, and not have to buy drugs all the time just to go pvp, job, grind, w/e
also, as a str char, ur threat of being killed in 1-2 moves isn't from another str char, it's from int chars (same w/ int chars threats being from str chars not other int chars)...so as str based, ur phy.def should already be high enough already to not be afraid of another str char
to me, ice only purpose is ocassional use of snow shield to do those crazy rush into battle
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:43 pm
by Intentions
HBblade wrote:unless u plan to just be slow super tank, then ice 90 all the way
other than that, i'd rather be a fast str blader w/ some mag.attk boost from light, parry defence, and not have to buy drugs all the time just to go pvp, job, grind, w/e
also, as a str char, ur threat of being killed in 1-2 moves isn't from another str char, it's from int chars (same w/ int chars threats being from str chars not other int chars)...so as str based, ur phy.def should already be high enough already to not be afraid of another str char
to me, ice only purpose is ocassional use of snow shield to do those crazy rush into battle
rogues can 1 hit
warriors can 2 hit
and being str blader with fire at 90/shield/garms
i think you have good defense against ints
its a tanker build
dont try to be the damage dealer
its like a wizard trying to tank
GL with that
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 11:05 pm
by raphaell666
Intentions wrote:rogues can 1 hit
warriors can 2 hit
I seriously doubt that. I'm pretty sure It won't be that easy against a full str blader even if he has no ice and using garment. Anyways, I'd prefer high ice over high light.

Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:29 am
by Intentions
raphaell666 wrote:Intentions wrote:rogues can 1 hit
warriors can 2 hit
I seriously doubt that. I'm pretty sure It won't be that easy against a full str blader even if he has no ice and using garment. Anyways, I'd prefer high ice over high light.

a lvl 76 rogue critted me 1 hit and i have a protector set and FF
if warrior crits with DD i could die 2 hits ( doesnt have to crit twice)
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:31 am
by raphaell666
Intentions wrote:a lvl 76 rogue critted me 1 hit and i have a protector set and FF
if warrior crits with DD i could die 2 hits ( doesnt have to crit twice)
Oh, but that's criting anyways (even if it's kind of frequent). Well, the thing is I agree that high ice is better than high light.

Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:26 am
by Intentions
Oh, but that's criting anyways (even if it's kind of frequent). Well, the thing is I agree that high ice is better than high light.

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agreed
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:44 am
by Sealed
So Ice is better than Light for PVP and Jobbing?
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:54 am
by raphaell666
Sealed wrote:So Ice is better than Light for PVP and Jobbing?
No, cold is better for 1vs1 pvping, while lighting is better for jobbing and group pvping. Note that this is in general, there may be exceptions.
Re: Snow Shield for Str Blader / and 90 Cap question again T.T
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:59 am
by YangKang
There are serval types of bladers. Im playing blade since I started and I had more than enough bladers capped, believe me I know what im talking about.
The 'Killer' build.
90 Bicheon 90 Fire 90 Force 20 Ice 10 Bow
- This build deals the most damage, you need to rely on Drugs for speed. Not much of mobility but a walking monster. Kills fastet in PvP. Preferable job - Hunter/Thief
The 'Standard' build.
90 Bicheon 90 Fire 90 Light 30 Ice
- Allrounder. A good weapon and gear makes this blader good. Does good in PvP when the gear is good. Preferable job - Hunter/Thief/trader
The 'Tanker' build.
90 Bicheon 90 Fire 90 Ice 30 Light
- The ultimative tanker. Sucks in moving and chasing the enemy but good in taking damage and waiting for you mates to get the job done. Kills slower than the others, prepare to have a long battle. Anyways killing the opponent with that build shouldnt be your goal anyways. Preferable job - Hunter/Trader
At 100 cap you'd probaly should go, 100 Bicheon, 100 Fire, 80 Light, 20 Ice.
Im trying a Force Blader right now, if I find myself way to restriced without 'Ghost Walk - Phantom', I might change to the allrounder build.
@ People saying Zicor is talking shit
Oh boiii~~ Zicor has enough years of playing a blader at different caps, he knows what hes talking about.