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bow pvp
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:50 pm
by bugy92
right now i have lvl 73 full str archer. It is very cool and i like it, but it is kinda bad at pvp, i mean i did pvp with glaviers, bladers, nukers and euros, but i dont win a lot.my bow is plus 5 fb, my garms plus 4 fb.but i am not farmed.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:54 pm
by bugy92
When i will be lvl 90 ful farmed, will i be good at pvp, i mean to win a lot of fights? Or bow just isnt a pvp build, and i wil never pwn in pvp? Plz, need high lvl archers opinions, and with some explanations why archers are good/bad at pvp
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:58 pm
by rck shx pike
If you were fully farmed you would own. Otherwise your skills will be way down compared to other people.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:46 pm
by Nitro
You get much stronger at lv.76, with new strongbow, but I dont think that helps that much.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:43 pm
by LastProfet
any char could OWN in pvp IF HIS FARMED...and the full str builds...they rulez if they are farmed
so...farm it .. and u will rulez...and how nitro said...do lv 76 and take the bow
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:41 pm
by OTG
Nitro wrote:You get much stronger at lv.76, with new strongbow, but I dont think that helps that much.
I agree. At 76 you get Strongbow which stuns and if you aren't even farmed in Pacheon up to 73 you are missing out on knockback, which is the one skill that helps bowers survive.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:54 pm
by Phaidra
What build are you? You only mention you're a bower. For example if your plan is 90 light you'll be a lot weaker then someone who chooses 90 ice.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:01 pm
by OTG
Phaidra wrote:What build are you? You only mention you're a bower. For example if your plan is 90 light you'll be a lot weaker then someone who chooses 90 ice.
+1.
Also if you are a force bower at 80 you'll be able to give them Impotent, which helps with your survability. Then at 90 you get Division and your crits become Godly combined with Weaken and Decay.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:15 pm
by NinjaNihonto
If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:16 pm
by Phaidra
NinjaNihonto wrote:If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.
It also depends which bow build you chose, I experimented with mine alot, changing from Light To Ice made a HUGE difference.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:17 pm
by NinjaNihonto
Phaidra wrote:NinjaNihonto wrote:If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.
It also depends which bow build you chose, I experimented with mine alot, changing from Light To Ice made a HUGE difference.
Yea, also depends if the build suits you well or not.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:19 pm
by Phaidra
I miss my bow guy =O
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:56 pm
by bugy92
Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:11 pm
by Phaidra
bugy92 wrote:Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...
Not a very good build if I'm honest, Light is useless to you, with 90 Ice instead you'd have something like 180 extra phy defense.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:35 pm
by OTG
bugy92 wrote:Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...
Yeah ice at 73 would help you much more than light would.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:54 pm
by Sweeper
90Ice just sux...because u dont have any mobility...imo 90pach/90fire/72ice/48light is much better then 90ice.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:42 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..
a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.
The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:38 am
by LastProfet
on pvp ice its better for bow ... but ... d0h ice dont look really good for a full str...dont do something like 72 light 48 ice...u do 90 ice or 90 light...the 18 lvls from 30 do 48 dont count so much on defence...but the 18 levels from light COUNTS...
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:39 am
by LastProfet
LastProfet wrote:on pvp ice its better for bow ... but ... d0h ice dont look really good for a full str...dont do something like 72 light 48 ice...u do 90 ice or 90 light...the 18 lvls from ice -30 to 48- dont count so much on defence...but the 18 levels from light COUNTS...
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:41 am
by _Dutchy_
Depends how you use your lightning back when i was still a lightning/fire/pach archer i would Jump around using my Ghost walk its really effective against almost any build
Ghost walk > KB Combo > strongbow
it won't really let you kill someone unless you crit a few times but its good against keep nukers and such at bay untill there snowshield runs out
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:08 pm
by Phaidra
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..
a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.
The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either
Totally wrong, I remember 2 shotting a light archer full farmed 90 in garm and a full +6 set. They're so weak lol.
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:51 pm
by Sweeper
Phaidra wrote:Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..
a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.
The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either
Totally wrong, I remember 2 shotting a light archer full farmed 90 in garm and a full +6 set. They're so weak lol.
Learn smth about bowers okey?
Re: bow pvp
Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:57 pm
by HBblade
bugy92 wrote:right now i have lvl 73 full str archer. It is very cool and i like it, but it is kinda bad at pvp, i mean i did pvp with glaviers, bladers, nukers and euros, but i dont win a lot.my bow is plus 5 fb, my garms plus 4 fb.but i am not farmed.
lvl 73 = no kb or new book of strong bow yet
yeah, ur gonna suck until u get 5arrow & new book of strong bow...also
lvl 90 full farm bow w/e other force mastery, with a decent crit bow (6+), you'll be hitting tons of crits just spamming
5arrow to get ppl off ur ass then strong bow & hope for stun/crit then lvl 90 anti devil, then another anti devil
rinse repeat...
also pvping 2+ bowers = most annoying bs ever, kb, kb kb kb, lol
so to answer ur question, yeah bows suck or are just at a disadvantage to most other builds the 1st 76 or so lvls in the game