bow pvp

bugy92 · Post by **bugy92** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:50 pm

right now i have lvl 73 full str archer. It is very cool and i like it, but it is kinda bad at pvp, i mean i did pvp with glaviers, bladers, nukers and euros, but i dont win a lot.my bow is plus 5 fb, my garms plus 4 fb.but i am not farmed.

bugy92 · Post by **bugy92** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:54 pm

When i will be lvl 90 ful farmed, will i be good at pvp, i mean to win a lot of fights? Or bow just isnt a pvp build, and i wil never pwn in pvp? Plz, need high lvl archers opinions, and with some explanations why archers are good/bad at pvp

rck shx pike · Post by **rck shx pike** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:58 pm

If you were fully farmed you would own. Otherwise your skills will be way down compared to other people.

Nitro · Post by **Nitro** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:46 pm

You get much stronger at lv.76, with new strongbow, but I dont think that helps that much.

LastProfet · Post by **LastProfet** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:43 pm

any char could OWN in pvp IF HIS FARMED...and the full str builds...they rulez if they are farmed

so...farm it .. and u will rulez...and how nitro said...do lv 76 and take the bow

OTG · Post by **OTG** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:41 pm

Nitro wrote:You get much stronger at lv.76, with new strongbow, but I dont think that helps that much.

I agree. At 76 you get Strongbow which stuns and if you aren't even farmed in Pacheon up to 73 you are missing out on knockback, which is the one skill that helps bowers survive.

Phaidra · Post by **Phaidra** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:54 pm

What build are you? You only mention you're a bower. For example if your plan is 90 light you'll be a lot weaker then someone who chooses 90 ice.

OTG · Post by **OTG** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:01 pm

Phaidra wrote:What build are you? You only mention you're a bower. For example if your plan is 90 light you'll be a lot weaker then someone who chooses 90 ice.

+1.

Also if you are a force bower at 80 you'll be able to give them Impotent, which helps with your survability. Then at 90 you get Division and your crits become Godly combined with Weaken and Decay.

NinjaNihonto · Post by **NinjaNihonto** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:15 pm

If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.

Phaidra · Post by **Phaidra** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:16 pm

NinjaNihonto wrote:If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.

It also depends which bow build you chose, I experimented with mine alot, changing from Light To Ice made a HUGE difference.

NinjaNihonto · Post by **NinjaNihonto** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:17 pm

Phaidra wrote:
NinjaNihonto wrote:If you don't win much at pvp with a str bow, it's not because it's a bad pvp build, it's because you need to train more at pvp with it.

It also depends which bow build you chose, I experimented with mine alot, changing from Light To Ice made a HUGE difference.

Yea, also depends if the build suits you well or not. :wink:

Phaidra · Post by **Phaidra** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:19 pm

I miss my bow guy =O

bugy92 · Post by **bugy92** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:56 pm

Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...

Phaidra · Post by **Phaidra** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:11 pm

bugy92 wrote:Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...

Not a very good build if I'm honest, Light is useless to you, with 90 Ice instead you'd have something like 180 extra phy defense.

OTG · Post by **OTG** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:35 pm

bugy92 wrote:Sorry I didn`t mentioned: My build is pacheon/fire/light...

Yeah ice at 73 would help you much more than light would.

Sweeper · Post by **Sweeper** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:54 pm

90Ice just sux...because u dont have any mobility...imo 90pach/90fire/72ice/48light is much better then 90ice.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · Post by **Pan_Raider(`_´)** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:42 pm

^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..

a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.

The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either

LastProfet · Post by **LastProfet** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:38 am

on pvp ice its better for bow ... but ... d0h ice dont look really good for a full str...dont do something like 72 light 48 ice...u do 90 ice or 90 light...the 18 lvls from 30 do 48 dont count so much on defence...but the 18 levels from light COUNTS...

LastProfet · Post by **LastProfet** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:39 am

LastProfet wrote:on pvp ice its better for bow ... but ... d0h ice dont look really good for a full str...dont do something like 72 light 48 ice...u do 90 ice or 90 light...the 18 lvls from ice -30 to 48- dont count so much on defence...but the 18 levels from light COUNTS...

_Dutchy_ · Post by **_Dutchy_** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:41 am

Depends how you use your lightning back when i was still a lightning/fire/pach archer i would Jump around using my Ghost walk its really effective against almost any build

Ghost walk > KB Combo > strongbow

it won't really let you kill someone unless you crit a few times but its good against keep nukers and such at bay untill there snowshield runs out

Phaidra · Post by **Phaidra** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:08 pm

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..

a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.

The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either

Totally wrong, I remember 2 shotting a light archer full farmed 90 in garm and a full +6 set. They're so weak lol.

Sweeper · Post by **Sweeper** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:51 pm

Phaidra wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:^true that 90 ice sucks, but compared to 90 light..

a 90 ice would stand there with a very high defence freezing his 90 light opponent
who can only evade using hs mobility.

The 90 ice might not be able to kill the 90light, but the 90light won't be able to kill him either

Totally wrong, I remember 2 shotting a light archer full farmed 90 in garm and a full +6 set. They're so weak lol.

Learn smth about bowers okey?

HBblade · Post by **HBblade** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:57 pm

bugy92 wrote:right now i have lvl 73 full str archer. It is very cool and i like it, but it is kinda bad at pvp, i mean i did pvp with glaviers, bladers, nukers and euros, but i dont win a lot.my bow is plus 5 fb, my garms plus 4 fb.but i am not farmed.

lvl 73 = no kb or new book of strong bow yet

yeah, ur gonna suck until u get 5arrow & new book of strong bow...also

lvl 90 full farm bow w/e other force mastery, with a decent crit bow (6+), you'll be hitting tons of crits just spamming

5arrow to get ppl off ur ass then strong bow & hope for stun/crit then lvl 90 anti devil, then another anti devil

rinse repeat...

also pvping 2+ bowers = most annoying bs ever, kb, kb kb kb, lol

so to answer ur question, yeah bows suck or are just at a disadvantage to most other builds the 1st 76 or so lvls in the game

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