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Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:07 am
by LastProfet
what its better?i saw the fire,light,ice 90 its the biggest chinese damage dealer....and i saw it rulez in pvp...i dnt know...i m a little noobie..im waiting opinion of a pro....
nuker ice90,bich90,light90 its s/s
nuker ice 90 light90 fire 90 its s/s too
both protector...or garment...i think protector +5... :( :?: :?
thx :D

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:18 am
by Tasdik
Go with the Bicheon/light/ice for knock down and a better % chance to block and attack

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:42 am
by LastProfet
thx for ur opinion...i don't know why i prefer more the fire light ice...maybe for it's damage...i prefer the damage...it haves more buffs...mean more defence...more damage...immunity...thx for your sugest anyway...i wait more opinions

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:51 am
by Tasdik
Remember. Our opinions should not completely influence you either way. Do what you want not what we tell you to do :)

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:59 am
by LastProfet
i like more fire light ice but i want to know what its better...i like both VERY MUCH...but ice light bich need 840k sp and the fire light ice 750 k sp ... but not this is the problem..i want to know what is better..

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:32 pm
by ln
Well for 1 v 1 pvp, undoubtedly you need a weapons skill maxed. For a support build or for group wars, fire/light/ice seems fun.

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:56 pm
by Phaidra
I agree with Tasdik.

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:49 pm
by LastProfet
good...i see that the light ice bich is the best on your opinion...but for pvp...i will pvp much...but i saw both on pvp...and they rulz...unfortunately i didnt see any pvp in nuker ice , light , bich vs fire,light,ice...im waiting more opinions

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:17 pm
by AznFury
bich/light/cold = single pvp
fire/light/cold = group pvp, jobwars, guildwars

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:04 am
by Sweeper
Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect !

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:07 am
by penfold1992
Sweeper wrote:Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect !


uninstall sro.


dont do this. thats just noob


pvp.
bich light ice vs fire light ice = bich light ice wins.

in group pvp tho fire light ice is better, i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp :D

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:14 am
by alZen
penfold1992 wrote:i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp :D


do you ice/fire wall a lot? else, how can you ever nuke/shout?

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:39 am
by rck shx pike
I reckon the fire/light/ice will cost more SP. Something to consider, I guess.

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:56 am
by LastProfet
rck shx pike wrote:I reckon the fire/light/ice will cost more SP. Something to consider, I guess.

...ur wrong....fire light ice need like 750k sp and the ice light bich need 850 k...
Sweeper wrote:Go 90Biche/90Fire/90Ice/30Light its perfect !
....wtf is this...it's shit...its damn slow...i know u want to help..i saw that youtube video...but its not a good build...
alZen wrote:
penfold1992 wrote:i am fire light ice and im still good in pvp :D


do you ice/fire wall a lot? else, how can you ever nuke/shout?
....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...;)


ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:40 pm
by LastProfet
come1 guys you will not lose ur fingers if u write me a opinion

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:50 pm
by DistortedMind
90 ice/fire/light is awsom for pve
i duno for pvp because ive never seen a pure int nuker 90ice/light/fire pvp before.......

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:14 am
by alZen
LastProfet wrote:....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...;)


ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?


nope. that's not the point. if you're chinese all nukes fighting against any other builds that have a chance to stun, knockback, knockdown you, thereby canceling your nuke as you attempt to launch it, you have very few opportunities to let fly your nukes in a 1v1 situation.

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:28 am
by LastProfet
from the ice tree i have 2 skills that freeze the enemy so i still have a chance

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:01 pm
by AznFury
alZen wrote:
LastProfet wrote:....from ur mesage i understand that the ice light fire dnt have defence....listen..it haves MORE defence...it have the buff of fire to protection..it have all buffs possibile for defence...except the shield from bicheon...;)


ok im 60% fire light ice...more opinions ?


nope. that's not the point. if you're chinese all nukes fighting against any other builds that have a chance to stun, knockback, knockdown you, thereby canceling your nuke as you attempt to launch it, you have very few opportunities to let fly your nukes in a 1v1 situation.


it's not very good at 1v1 but better in group PvP as stated above.
bich/cold/light is the 1v1 PvP build

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:47 pm
by ln
aznfury91 wrote:it's not very good at 1v1 but better in group PvP as stated above.
bich/cold/light is the 1v1 PvP build


that's why it's not good for 1v1, but pretty good in group fights.

weapon/cold/light will be better for 1v1 pvp.

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:10 pm
by LastProfet
i see the ice light bich is better for pvp...ok i choose it then...thx all for opinion...TOPIC CAN BE CLOSED

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:26 am
by Strikerr
I think S/S without bicheon skills its so boringgggggggggg...so i recommend you 90Bich/90Lighting/90Ice/30Fire

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:24 pm
by willieb3
you seemed like you wanted to take fire ice light well i have one level 64 now and ... ive basically owned anyone except 2h and bladers

the unique thing about col light fire is that you can auto matically cancel kd because of cold wave

this build also rapes bowers ,ive never lost too a bower yet and my friend had sos and i still won AND HE HIT CRIT basically with snow shield and mag and phys buffs its hard to die

so this build is ftw and with bich all your doing is kd stab kd stab and once you dont kd them you would probably do a chain or light nuke ..this a good build but the damage is lower and the hp is also low so ..yea with my buil i2 hit anyone cept bladers and 2hs

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:01 pm
by Strikerr
willieb3 wrote:you seemed like you wanted to take fire ice light well i have one level 64 now and ... ive basically owned anyone except 2h and bladers

the unique thing about col light fire is that you can auto matically cancel kd because of cold wave

this build also rapes bowers ,ive never lost too a bower yet and my friend had sos and i still won AND HE HIT CRIT basically with snow shield and mag and phys buffs its hard to die

Im sure that bowers are noobs =)

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:33 am
by Amro
bich,cold,light > cold,light,fire
i was pvping yesterday with 90 bich,cold,light full int and no1 killed me in snow..
i mean in 1vs1

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:39 am
by JKMB
90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.
That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 8:07 am
by LastProfet
JKMB wrote:90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.
That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..
... OMG guys...you saw the video on youtube with that ice fire bich guy...dude...don't talk about it...please try it ... and after then say me how it's to grind so slow..without speed and parry ratio and the bonus damage from piercing...fire have more buffs..nukes..but neah i like the light more...JKMD i checked ur char on rev..he has light and bicheon ..

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:31 am
by JKMB
LastProfet wrote:
JKMB wrote:90 fire/ice/bicheon, takes the cake at pvp at this cap.. it has better defense then 90 ice/light/bicheon and performs better over all, it sucks to grind though, to slow and no teleport, but for pvp its probably one of the better nuker builds at this cap, and depending on if we get fire shield upgraded at 100 cap, it will be one of the best nuker builds at 100 cap for sure.
That is speaking from experience of playing both 90 ice/light and 90 ice/fire at cap..
... OMG guys...you saw the video on youtube with that ice fire bich guy...dude...don't talk about it...please try it ... and after then say me how it's to grind so slow..without speed and parry ratio and the bonus damage from piercing...fire have more buffs..nukes..but neah i like the light more...JKMD i checked ur char on rev..he has light and bicheon ..

If I could reskill for fire, I would. Except I cant afford the inordinate amounts of silk to dlvl light, and I cant grind 24/7 to collect the hearts. :roll: Trust me, fire > light, for refrence check this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=103297
As you can see, its better to just have the added defense from fire, then to have parry ratio from lightning. :)

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:21 am
by LastProfet
if u say...i like light cause it has a so nice 4d imbue xD and so nice nukes

Re: Nuker ice,bich,light vs fire,light,ice

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:14 pm
by JKMB
I agree that light is sexy. :p But if your going to be mostly pvping then fire gives you a little more freedom since you have more then just 1 type of nuke, also its more balanced, I guess it all evens up in the end anyway. :)