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Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:23 am
by rck shx pike
Is it worth making a pure int bow? Can it survive in the long run?

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Ok, I have been reading through some old guides and I have decided I want to have a 70:70 hybrid bow guide. It seeems that 70:70 hybrid bows are an excellent all-rounder. It can own pure int nukers and pure str builds are just a bit harder to kill. Pure str bladers seem to be the biggest enemy against 70:70 hybrid bows. Their shields can just deflect my criticals and other attacks.
Stats - From level 1 to 20 I will put all my stat points into int. From level 20 to 30 I wil put all my stat points into str. From level 30 and upwards I will try and get the 70:70 balance.
Skills - I think I will go for 90 pacheon, 90 fire and 90 lightning. Pacheon is obvious, I think. I chose fire because it has to strongest imbue and the buffs are sweet. I chose lightning for the speed. I think I will also select the nukes in both fire and lightning just to give me more attacks along with my pacheon skills.
For pacheon I will get every skill except the attacking hawks, autumn wind arrow and mind bow. Should I get mind bow?
For fire I will get every skill.
For lightning I will get piercing force, wind walk, concerntration, thunderbolt force and heaven's force.
All the skills mentioned above will cost 837,739 sp, that is without mind bow.
Armour - Armour during the early stages because I will be pure int up to level 20. Later on I will wear protector.
Other - I have two level 26 wolfs and one level 26 three footed bird waiting for me. I also I have a level 42 +3 sos bow waiting.

Please give me your opinions about this build. Any suggestion/s would be good. I really don't want to screw this up like my other characters.

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:26 am
by Phaidra
Without snow you're dead, even with a rogue etc would still one shot you. Although pure int can be done with bow, STR or hybrid is the better option. That's just my opinion.

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:11 pm
by GimmeMo
I've played with my friends's char, and it rocks! Int bowers grind sooo fast, and they pwn at pvp too, beleive or not but they do!

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:19 pm
by OTG
I tried one but only to level 20 so I can't really say they rock :D

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:43 pm
by JoyFax
OTG wrote:I tried one but only to level 20 so I can't really say they rock :D


>.< you should have tried 11 more lvls... then you would get explosion arrow, strongbow and nukes... till 30 you have nothing but weak atacks

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:38 am
by LastProfet
i tried 1 for pleasure .. lv 32 ... it has good damage...but not good in pvp ... nukers s/s win cause of shield and spear cause of damage...full str because of big amount of hp...
this thing dont work on bigger lv i think cause then maybe u have all clothes +5 str ...have the buffs... etc .. ... FINAL SUGESTION : DO A NUKER S/S IF U WANT NUKER...NO BOW NUKER...

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:30 pm
by ln
LastProfet wrote:i tried 1 for pleasure .. lv 32 ... it has good damage...but not good in pvp ... nukers s/s win cause of shield and spear cause of damage...full str because of big amount of hp...
this thing dont work on bigger lv i think cause then maybe u have all clothes +5 str ...have the buffs... etc .. ... FINAL SUGESTION : DO A NUKER S/S IF U WANT NUKER...NO BOW NUKER...


5-6 combos for the knockbacks + longer range (than nuke) do seem viable to me. int heavy hybrid or pure int archer would be something i wish i had the time to try.

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:02 pm
by Jaapii
I think bow does more dmg with some certain skills than spear.
Look at the strong bow series: a crazy 350% skill while most nukes are 300%
Saw a lvl 32+ full int bow do 2k dmg with strongbow and 1.5k with nukes.
Altho strong bow has a long casting time, it'll pwn as a huge damage shot to begin with.

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:31 pm
by Crowley
Don't go pure. As Phaidra said, STR or hybrid is the better way to go. I'm experienced with hybrid bowers because well, I have one right now ^_^

Hybrid bowers do really good in PvP and PvE. In CTF the opposing team can't take me down unless it's 3v1 or more. I can 1-hit pure INTS my lvl if they don't use snow shield. If they do use it, Strongbow>>>(That lvl 49 skill, forgot the name :S)

Strongbow deals aroun 3k dmg, if that doesn't 1-hit them, your 2nd skill will. In CTF I usually get over 20 kills and die no more than 5 times ^_^

My friend is making a pure INT bower right and she's lvl 60, same as me. She said they're really good for PvE but not Pvp

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:07 pm
by rck shx pike
Tsume wrote:Hybrid bowers do really good in PvP and PvE. In CTF the opposing team can't take me down unless it's 3v1 or more. I can 1-hit pure INTS my lvl if they don't use snow shield. If they do use it, Strongbow>>>(That lvl 49 skill, forgot the name :S)

Strongbow deals aroun 3k dmg, if that doesn't 1-hit them, your 2nd skill will. In CTF I usually get over 20 kills and die no more than 5 times ^_^


Is your build just the same as a normal pure int bow build? 90 pacheon, 90 light and 90 ice.
What is a good hybrid str:int ratio? more str? more int?

Re: Int Bow

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:24 am
by rck shx pike
Ok, I have been reading through some old guides and I have decided I want to have a 70:70 hybrid bow guide. It seeems that 70:70 hybrid bows are an excellent all-rounder. It can own pure int nukers and pure str builds are just a bit harder to kill. Pure str bladers seem to be the biggest enemy against 70:70 hybrid bows. Their shields can just deflect my criticals and other attacks.
Stats - From level 1 to 20 I will put all my stat points into int. From level 20 to 30 I wil put all my stat points into str. From level 30 and upwards I will try and get the 70:70 balance.
Skills - I think I will go for 90 pacheon, 90 fire and 90 lightning. Pacheon is obvious, I think. I chose fire because it has to strongest imbue and the buffs are sweet. I chose lightning for the speed. I think I will also select the nukes in both fire and lightning just to give me more attacks along with my pacheon skills.
For pacheon I will get every skill except the attacking hawks, autumn wind arrow and mind bow. Should I get mind bow?
For fire I will get every skill.
For lightning I will get piercing force, wind walk, concerntration, thunderbolt force and heaven's force.
All the skills mentioned above will cost 837,739 sp, that is without mind bow.
Armour - Armour during the early stages because I will be pure int up to level 20. Later on I will wear protector.
Other - I have two level 26 wolfs and one level 26 three footed bird waiting for me. I also I have a level 42 +3 sos bow waiting.

Please give me your opinions about this build. Any suggestion/s would be good. I really don't want to screw this up like my other characters.

Re: Int Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 5:05 am
by CHIPS
Full int bow isn't worth it. You are missing the benefit of critical, so your damage will be lower than a spear full int nuker. At the same time your tanking ability is horrible. A bower should be full str or heavy str hybrid.

If you really want to make a full int bower tho, you must max ice since Snow Shield will be a must have.

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:23 am
by Crowley
rck shx pike wrote:
Tsume wrote:Hybrid bowers do really good in PvP and PvE. In CTF the opposing team can't take me down unless it's 3v1 or more. I can 1-hit pure INTS my lvl if they don't use snow shield. If they do use it, Strongbow>>>(That lvl 49 skill, forgot the name :S)

Strongbow deals aroun 3k dmg, if that doesn't 1-hit them, your 2nd skill will. In CTF I usually get over 20 kills and die no more than 5 times ^_^


Is your build just the same as a normal pure int bow build? 90 pacheon, 90 light and 90 ice.
What is a good hybrid str:int ratio? more str? more int?


My build is 90 fire, 90 pacheon, 60 ice, 60 light.

rck shx pike wrote:Ok, I have been reading through some old guides and I have decided I want to have a 70:70 hybrid bow guide. It seeems that 70:70 hybrid bows are an excellent all-rounder. It can own pure int nukers and pure str builds are just a bit harder to kill. Pure str bladers seem to be the biggest enemy against 70:70 hybrid bows. Their shields can just deflect my criticals and other attacks.
Stats - From level 1 to 20 I will put all my stat points into int. From level 20 to 30 I wil put all my stat points into str. From level 30 and upwards I will try and get the 70:70 balance.
Skills - I think I will go for 90 pacheon, 90 fire and 90 lightning. Pacheon is obvious, I think. I chose fire because it has to strongest imbue and the buffs are sweet. I chose lightning for the speed. I think I will also select the nukes in both fire and lightning just to give me more attacks along with my pacheon skills.
For pacheon I will get every skill except the attacking hawks, autumn wind arrow and mind bow. Should I get mind bow?
For fire I will get every skill.
For lightning I will get piercing force, wind walk, concerntration, thunderbolt force and heaven's force.
All the skills mentioned above will cost 837,739 sp, that is without mind bow.
Armour - Armour during the early stages because I will be pure int up to level 20. Later on I will wear protector.
Other - I have two level 26 wolfs and one level 26 three footed bird waiting for me. I also I have a level 42 +3 sos bow waiting.

Please give me your opinions about this build. Any suggestion/s would be good. I really don't want to screw this up like my other characters.


Seems like a good choice but if you got 70:70 your crits will be weak. I have 95% phy and my crits do around an additional 75% whereas a pure str's crit does additional 100% damage . If you go 70:70 you're crits wouldn't really make a difference. Maybe they would deal 15%-20% additional damage.

CHIPS wrote:Full int bow isn't worth it. You are missing the benefit of critical, so your damage will be lower than a spear full int nuker. At the same time your tanking ability is horrible. A bower should be full str or heavy str hybrid.

If you really want to make a full int bower tho, you must max ice since Snow Shield will be a must have.


I agree with CHIPS, 70:70 doesn't reach the maximum potential of a bower. Heavy hybrid is the way to go. Around 85%-90% naked.

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:31 am
by rck shx pike
Tsume wrote:I agree with CHIPS, 70:70 doesn't reach the maximum potential of a bower. Heavy hybrid is the way to go. Around 85%-90% naked.


How do you achieve that?

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:59 am
by Crowley
rck shx pike wrote:
Tsume wrote:I agree with CHIPS, 70:70 doesn't reach the maximum potential of a bower. Heavy hybrid is the way to go. Around 85%-90% naked.


How do you achieve that?


Don't really know lol, but when I'm naked I have around 90%. And I went pure str till 30 and then 2:1 till 60.

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:07 am
by Doomie
Tsume wrote:
rck shx pike wrote:
Tsume wrote:I agree with CHIPS, 70:70 doesn't reach the maximum potential of a bower. Heavy hybrid is the way to go. Around 85%-90% naked.


How do you achieve that?


Don't really know lol, but when I'm naked I have around 90%. And I went pure str till 30 and then 2:1 till 60.

Everyone, Tsume ( Sousuke) is a scammer , i know this is offtopic but had to bring it up somehow

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:14 am
by Crowley
Doomie wrote:
Everyone, Tsume ( Sousuke) is a scammer , i know this is offtopic but had to bring it up somehow


lolwut?

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:22 am
by Doomie
You know it tsume.
Remember someone by name of Slug? Yeah remember u jacked all my shit?

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:48 am
by rck shx pike
Doomie wrote:You know it tsume.
Remember someone by name of Slug? Yeah remember u jacked all my shit?

lol

Re: Int Bow EDIT Hybrid Bow - Please Discuss

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:22 am
by JoyFax
Doomie wrote:You know it tsume.
Remember someone by name of Slug? Yeah remember u jacked all my shit?


Good for you, next time try to remember not to trust everyone on sro, because noone cares if Tsume scammed you.

Back on topic:

Good thing you changed the topic title instead of making new topic ^^

Btw, instead of 90 light, try to go something like 80 light and lvl ice for the snow shield... 70:70 has enough mana to use atleast the 30% or 40%