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Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:38 pm
by Strwarrior
HI all...............
I just wanna ask 1 question about the S/s Nuker
What is better to take for me (love2kill((w/e time needed)) and not to die((alot)) HATE EURO)
was thinking on 5:1
good tank and good dmg
(i think this gonna be better for me)
7:1 dont know about tank but great dmg
(i dont know even how to put stats for this build)
so just choose from those and thanks alot for helping me

Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:40 pm
by Appelkompot
5:1 is better for spear ,
7:1 better for s/s cause you can already tank quite much cause of the shield , bicheon skills so thats why
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:01 pm
by Disconn3cted
5:1 in snow shield is very hard to kill in snow and can survive well enough without it...7:1 does a little bit more dmg but its really not that different
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:06 pm
by nohunta
I say 5:1...You lose a little damage from nukes and imbue but the crits are worth it IMO.
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:11 am
by Strwarrior
Thanks To All who Posted here

GoinG for 5:1 thanks to u all again
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:09 am
by Jazba
S/S should always go 100% pure INT
s/s should never go HYBRID
Hybrid = Spear 7:2 , 8:1
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:55 am
by Disconn3cted
Jazba wrote:S/S should always go 100% pure INT
s/s should never go HYBRID
Hybrid = Spear 7:2 , 8:1
dam do you have any idea how non hybrid those two builds are? Thats almost pure int on a spear just by saying that you lost all credibility
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:57 pm
by Strwarrior
Jazba wrote:S/S should always go 100% pure INT
s/s should never go HYBRID
Hybrid = Spear 7:2 , 8:1
Lol
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:44 am
by jay0303
ok this has nothing to do with topic but how u explain 5:1 & 7:1
y can't u say like 2str/1 int per lvl or something like that ?
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:45 pm
by Disconn3cted
jay0303 wrote:ok this has nothing to do with topic but how u explain 5:1 & 7:1
y can't u say like 2str/1 int per lvl or something like that ?
it just means you add stat points in 5int to 1str ratio; you can try to just remember that or do it the easier way.
5:1 = 85% magic balance when naked
7:1 = 87% magic balance when naked
there is almost no difference between the two
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:12 pm
by Jazba
Disconn3cted wrote:Jazba wrote:S/S should always go 100% pure INT
s/s should never go HYBRID
Hybrid = Spear 7:2 , 8:1
dam do you have any idea how non hybrid those two builds are? Thats almost pure int on a spear just by saying that you lost all credibility
Pure Int when Naked = 96% MAG & 52% PHY = 21908 MP / 6350 HP
Hybrid INT 7:2 Naked = 81% MAG & 62% PHY = 18412 MP / 9846 HP
Hybrid INT 8:1 Naked = 89% MAG & 57% PHY = 20160 MP / 8098 HP
LvL 90 Heuksal Passive gives = 2826 HP
9D gear gives u [Stamina Stones] = 1800 HP
u can get 66 Str Points, but lets take 33 str points = 1923 HP
Now tell me, how the they r both PURE INT build on SPEAR ?
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:14 pm
by Jazba
7:2 ratio means till lvl 70 u r putting all ur stats points in INT , and for another 20 lvl's all stats points into STR
8:1 ratio means all INT points till 80, n than rest str points for last 10 lvls
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:23 pm
by Disconn3cted
Jazba wrote:7:2 ratio means till lvl 70 u r putting all ur stats points in INT , and for another 20 lvl's all stats points into STR
8:1 ratio means all INT points till 80, n than rest str points for last 10 lvls
thats how bots do it and people who don't want a hybrid character but a pure int with a little more hp, I think the topic starter actually wanted a hybrid character and why are your ratios so far apart? You say 7:2 and 8:1 are the other good builds for spear but 8:1 is a nuker with slightly higher hp and 7:2 will almost always use weapon skills...I don't think you know anything about hybrid builds
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:39 pm
by Jazba
Disconn3cted wrote:Jazba wrote:7:2 ratio means till lvl 70 u r putting all ur stats points in INT , and for another 20 lvl's all stats points into STR
8:1 ratio means all INT points till 80, n than rest str points for last 10 lvls
thats how bots do it and people who don't want a hybrid character but a pure int with a little more hp, I think the topic starter actually wanted a hybrid character and why are your ratios so far apart? You say 7:2 and 8:1 are the other good builds for spear but 8:1 is a nuker with slightly higher hp and 7:2 will almost always use weapon skills...I don't think you know anything about hybrid builds
All i m saying
S/S = should never go Hybrid, sword is on 4th # as magical weapon in chinese weapons, his nukes will be like he is using blade. and sword's comes last as physical weapon.
Spear = Hybrid build
1. cuz of Passive HP from Heuksal Tree.
2. Highest magical attack in chinese weapons.
3. 2nd Highest physical attack in chinese weapons.
only according to these 3 points SPEARS go hybrid.
If u go 2:1 in spear or 5:4 , ur nukes will be like S/S n ur physical hits & Crits will also be low.
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:10 am
by jay0303
y don't pure int s/s just put hp stones that will keep there damage high and extra hp ?
Re: Hybrid S/s Nuker Simple Question
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:40 pm
by Strwarrior
I would go as a pure int
but i dont like the fact that you dont have a "enough" hp to beat some classes "builds"

Str Tabs and hp + in ur gear (i wont gonna make str..hp....etc stones in the low lvls((not after 56+)) just a feeling its waste and even in high lvls u dont know how much u are lucky to get that stones
thats y i want a hybrid
another question

oO
How much a 5:1 hp will have at 80 and 90? (wont pvp befor that

)