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My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:26 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Hi there,
After a long break of SRO I'm back playing and I have a blader
FF for 90 but it's only level 37 atm, I plan on continueing to
play this character but which build should I take, there has been
a few changes since I've been gone.. I'm think either..

Force/Fire/Bich 90, Ice 30
Or
Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48
as suggested by Fudge..

Or maybe take one of those builds but as a glaiver/bower..
Can someone give me some suggestions :P Can a force blader
kill? I mean with the debuffs and all I figure it would be
like a glaiver that tanks more and has kd and sexy chains.

Thank you.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:31 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
My guess is Force blader, I'm making one myself now.
Wish I was FF already.. Taking forever.. Anyways I
don't have much experience PvPing force bladers at cap.
So my advice isn't that good.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:23 am
by OTG
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:Hi there,
After a long break of SRO I'm back playing and I have a blader
FF for 90 but it's only level 37 atm, I plan on continueing to
play this character but which build should I take, there has been
a few changes since I've been gone.. I'm think either..

Force/Fire/Bich 90, Ice 30
Or
Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48
as suggested by Fudge..

Or maybe take one of those builds but as a glaiver/bower..
Can someone give me some suggestions :P Can a force blader
kill? I mean with the debuffs and all I figure it would be
like a glaiver that tanks more and has kd and sexy chains.

Thank you.


Go for the Fire/Bich 90, Ice 72, Light 48. Best pvp build ever.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:37 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Wouldn't force make more sence? For the debuffs.
A blader is already a good tanker and lacks dmg..
So I was thinking that the force debuffs would
make up for it? Can you please give me some more
reason to take the ice/light build, just need some
info to convince me. I'm not sure I'd be able to
kill anyone with that build to :S

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:46 am
by OTG
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:Wouldn't force make more sence? For the debuffs.
A blader is already a good tanker and lacks dmg..
So I was thinking that the force debuffs would
make up for it? Can you please give me some more
reason to take the ice/light build, just need some
info to convince me. I'm not sure I'd be able to
kill anyone with that build to :S


Cleric = Making half your build completely useless.

A blader can already debuff on it's own. Why add more? Stick to that build and you'll win. 72 ice, 48 light.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:50 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Hmm.. Good point, Force does have a usefull skill
to get rid of debuffs to. Would there be any point
in 90 ice? both imbues..

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:00 am
by OTG
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:Hmm.. Good point, Force does have a usefull skill
to get rid of debuffs to. Would there be any point
in 90 ice? both imbues..


90 ice if you wanna tank Str better. But I'd just go with 72 ice. No need in higher ice.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:07 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Hmm.. I see. Are there any other advantages of the 90:90:72:48 build?

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:09 am
by OTG
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:Hmm.. I see. Are there any other advantages of the 90:90:72:48 build?


You save SP.

You get good balance between parry ratio and phy def. It's basically the best set up when choosing between light and ice.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:16 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Yeah I know about the SP and it's been tempting me heaps.
Also parry ratio from light isn't that great vs parry ratio
from gear, with blues it's real easy to get up. I like
the sound of the 72/48 build.. But it will take me ages to
get 2+ debuffs onto people because it's only 30% unlike the
force debuffs 80%..

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:27 pm
by Crayon
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:Yeah I know about the SP and it's been tempting me heaps.
Also parry ratio from light isn't that great vs parry ratio
from gear, with blues it's real easy to get up. I like
the sound of the 72/48 build.. But it will take me ages to
get 2+ debuffs onto people because it's only 30% unlike the
force debuffs 80%..


i like
90/90 fire bich 68-ice and 52- light
you get your mains
get last book for ice guard
and 2nd book for grass walk

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:22 pm
by Qosta420
go force. Ive seen lvl 90 ff force bladers with average +5 gear hit over 10k's on FF 90 glaivers, if you get the debuffs on somone then use the final tier KD+stab with crit increase. then your opponent will be dead. so yeah force bladers can kill shit. only problem is you have tons of people refusing to pvp you cause your a "force noob." go for it though. its a fun build. i enjoyed my force blader.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:38 pm
by slimshady
Qosta420 wrote:go force. Ive seen lvl 90 ff force bladers with average +5 gear hit over 10k's on FF 90 glaivers, if you get the debuffs on somone then use the final tier KD+stab with crit increase. then your opponent will be dead. so yeah force bladers can kill shit. only problem is you have tons of people refusing to pvp you cause your a "force noob." go for it though. its a fun build. i enjoyed my force blader.



+1 my force blader is lvl 75 going for

90bich
90force
90fire
30cold

pvp nukers my build and without the force debuffs the fight lasts alot longer. with force debuffs i killed him in 1 chain lol. i also have killed a bower friend my lvl. and this was with crap +0 gear. ice doesnt need to be any higher than 30. it already kills my MP when i put on snowshield when taking big hits. but the force passive MP increase helps that as well. only thing with this build is no ghost walk, but i can live with that, i dont need to run from anyone im a tanking beast :twisted:

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:26 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
So would this stratergy work well..

Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab?
Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab..

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:49 am
by OTG
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:So would this stratergy work well..

Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab?
Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab..


If you want to suck, go force blader. Worst blader build ever.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:12 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
OTG wrote:
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:So would this stratergy work well..

Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab?
Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab..


If you want to suck, go force blader. Worst blader build ever.


Why? More debuffs, with a higher chance.. Like 100 less phys deff than 72 ice..
Also with speed scrolls i run faster than I would with 48 light.
Please give me some reasoning.

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:08 am
by slimshady
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:So would this stratergy work well..

Force debuffs.. soul cut(they are far away) flying stone, lightning chain, kd stab stab?
Against ints.. or just debuff, kd stab stab..




yes that would be a good strategy

Re: My new blader build?

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:37 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
Can I please get some more opinions..

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:37 am
by VeniVidiVici
As you stated, Force gives Bladers a higher chance of winning. Because Blader lacks dmg. I would go with Force. And Impotent lowers the dmg of your opponent. So then you won't need ice imo.

But the problem is the special universal pills.

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:54 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
I may aswell take ice at 30 for snow shield though.
I'll use speed scrolls when I need to because I dont
have any grasswalk or phantom and stuff.

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:43 am
by slimshady
AlwaysTheAntagonist wrote:I may aswell take ice at 30 for snow shield though.
I'll use speed scrolls when I need to because I dont
have any grasswalk or phantom and stuff.



yes 30 ice snowshield is good and helps add some tanking ability. just use speed scrolls or drug of wind/typhoon

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:25 pm
by banana
i just cant understand why when the ppl say i will made a str force user ( force glavie blader or bow) the others say HEY YA NOOB GO AWAY FCK ^^
the thing is force users like to use force. for good sake let them BE !!!
btw force bladers are warrior/warlocks :) but blade/force can ress and debuff and heal and OMG is nice =D


good at pvp
slow like a cow but strong :)

what to do in pvp?
debuffs + 1st book on bicheon then kd and then stabs :)





:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:12 am
by saphirre12
banana wrote: what to do in pvp?
debuffs + 1st book on bicheon then kd and then stabs :)


Cleric = Making half your build completely useless.


Your Force can't do anything to people with sub Cleric

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:14 am
by Kritikal
but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm
you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90
but if you rich in sp just take it

as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60
i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60.
i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap.

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:00 pm
by banana
Kritikal wrote:but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm
you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90
but if you rich in sp just take it

as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60
i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60.
i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap.

why you think for a build that will come in 2010 xD
jk


btw force balde is good just in pvp.

imagine hunting.... without grasswalk? pfff all the npc thieves ll catch ya :roll:
but in pvp you can destroy to sun users :roll:

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:04 am
by AlwaysTheAntagonist
To who said cleric subs make force useless..
Well they may be able to get rid of the debuffs
but don't they have to change weapon? A large
inconvenience, It will let you do some more damage
to then while they are stuffing around changing
and it gives you time to heal (if you even need it)
but I can't remember if you need to change or not..

Also farming aint a problem, over 500k ATM.. So yeah..

Even though I'd be slow I think it would be worth the
sacrifice wouldn't it? I mean bladers will NEVER be able
to kill someone on the run.. I can buy speed drugs and
use scrolls for when it's necessary.. But bladers lack
damage the most, force is giving a blader some damage..
making its biggest weakness not so big :)

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:49 pm
by Phix
banana wrote:
Kritikal wrote:but i'm sure you know force blader is hard to farm
you need 3 mastery to be maxed at 90
but if you rich in sp just take it

as for me i would go for bich/fire/light/cold @ 90/90/60/60
i would be one of the best at 90 cap since i can take full advantage of 60 light and 60 ice since both have decent speed+defence at lvl 60.
i will consider 70/30 light/cold at 100 cap.

why you think for a build that will come in 2010 xD
jk


btw force balde is good just in pvp.

imagine hunting.... without grasswalk? pfff all the npc thieves ll catch ya :roll:
but in pvp you can destroy to sun users :roll:


hunting/thiefing you almost always do in partys, buy either a drug of typhoon or a bard?

Re: My new blader build? [EDIT] Now has Poll

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:05 pm
by the_wicked
i like 70/50 or 60/60 for light and ice.