[GUIDE]: Hybird 1:1 Glavier (may be spear) UPDATED (cap 90)

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http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=JGqptrMRVAs here a vid of my 80:80 spear
btw... both spear and bow works fine with the 80:80 build.

none of those gayass INT"s use snow shield
and the glaviers are unfarmed they even dont have SSE lolz

[Jadekiss]

First of all thx for giving me your opinion , it was important to me ..

You are welcome... its nice to see some people who offered a lot of time in a new build and who are really going to try such a build !

you suggested 2 balances ..
80:54 and 76:60 .. that's easy .. my build balance is 75:62 that came from 1:1 .. that's easier to say make 1:1 hybrid and there is no big difference ..

Yeah .. just try to keep your PHY Balance higher than you MAG Balance !
I cant tell you which Balance work better.

Well i hope you can show us the result someday
Dont give uo NO PAIN NO GAIN !

[muyo]

is it ok to make 1:1 or 70:70 spear using ice as main?

[elnawawi]

Jadekiss .. thx , you give me hope ....

Muyo ...
no , ice with this build sux ...
ice is a thing to tank better and life longer ... light for mag attack .. and fire for phy attack .. when use ice as main you will loss a lot of fire and light means you loss both phy and mag attack and your imbue is too low already .. you will not kill anything and can't tank better than pure str ...

THIS BUILD IS AGRESSIVE BUILD SO DON"T THINK ABOUT MAXING COLD AND FREEZE?FORST PPL .. THAT DESTROY THE BUILD AND MAKE IT SHIT

[muyo]

kk..now i know 1:1 with higher phy attack should take fire..

mmm...the video in u sign..is that ur 1:1?level 19?u have any other higher level vid?

[elnawawi]

kk..now i know 1:1 with higher phy attack should take fire..

mmm...the video in u sign..is that ur 1:1?level 19?u have any other higher level vid?

Yes you can take fire .. you will have higher damge from imbue , but remember that light imbue give you the same damge as fire when you get the monster in electric shock statue (and people isn't immune to it) and make sure that your light is still high enough to have no drop in your mag attack (mag attack is higher than phy even if you have more phy balance .. ) ...

And light give me an advantage in my grinding method , light give bonus damge to mobs around me and can transfer the effect , I can stun monster that I don't attack atm by light !! , can frost. 2 monsters by cold wave !! and off course I can elctric shock a lot of monsters to have my max damge on them .. and light is to be the fastest that mean grind faster and lvl up faster ...

About the vedio, that's my new 1:1 glavier .. I have another vedio in lvl 24 (mastery 20) grinding lvl 24 monsters , it still the same as this vedio but only more monsters around me , and better tactics ...
I'm now lvl 28 (gap with SOM spear lvl 24+2 , a lot of SOS items on my set and accesories with good blues , I don't wanna record vedio for my character as people will not belive in this , but you can know that I can tank 7~8 general monsters same lvl or 3 party monsters including 1 champion party .. pure STR can tank better than me but he kill too slow ..

In pvp I kill pure str glaviers around my lvl in 2 hits , but that's because of my som+2 , we can't judge this character now ..

[borat2]

time to join this discussion i believe there was another topic about this but will reply here first.

i like your idea BUT i am afraid this wont work on higher levels.
especially with your weapon
if it was Bow then i would strongly believe this could become a nice build
spear/glaive you will need close combat you will lack defense and will lack damage
As bow you could have the advantage of range and therefor 1:1 would be a good build for spear u can nuke all you want but you wont be able to kill anyone with same gear as you have at higher levels.

1:1 will make you end up with a more phy balance if i am not mistaken therefor you will need a incredible high critical weapon to be able to kill since str based damage is mostly dangerous when you crit.

your damage is probably a bit more than a str glaive but your hp is much much less.

i personally don`t think this build would work with heuksal mastery (on higher levels) but more with pacheon.

but i suggest you continue and prove me wrong, love people who try new things so keep it up

[Jadekiss]

Well i believe in this build !
Why ? Its different and people have to suffer more for it than just go pure.
And i already mentioned... chinese chars should go hybrid IMO pure str would be also a good choice... but why dont people take the risk to try something fully new ?
Because its risky... none can be sure to have succes.
But No Risk No Fun
Just go on elnawawi.

Btw: IMO this build isnt really based on crit.. and the lack of HP and Def is also ok since this build deal more damage...
What is the result of dealing more damage ?
Right .. you will be able to kill you enemy faster... so its still ok to have lower def and hp but a higher avarage damage !

[Disconn3cted]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

[Jadekiss]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

Well, I dont get it... why should a str based char use a spear ?
Whats the meaning of this ?
IMO if the phy balance is higher (10% or sth like that) than you should use a str based weapon... so here it would be glavie !
But alright its your opinion

[Disconn3cted]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

Well, I dont get it... why should a str based char use a spear ?
Whats the meaning of this ?
IMO if the phy balance is higher (10% or sth like that) than you should use a str based weapon... so here it would be glavie !
But alright its your opinion

magic stats are always higher than phy even for pure str so they would do more dmg with spear and would crit more

[borat2]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

Well, I dont get it... why should a str based char use a spear ?
Whats the meaning of this ?
IMO if the phy balance is higher (10% or sth like that) than you should use a str based weapon... so here it would be glavie !
But alright its your opinion

magic stats are always higher than phy even for pure str so they would do more dmg with spear and would crit more

with this comment then everyone should use int based weapons (sword/spear)
there is more behind the weaponstats story in damage output with each build, sad enough i cant think clearly so cant really help more now. but i still can`t come up with a "Why" someone would make a 1:1 build heuksal.

[Jutsu]

20% because its possible to do damage with *but u can also do damage with punching* its not that great b/c glaive relies on phys balance.

[FlawLessx]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

i think much better is sword with shield XD

For better blocking ..xD

[Doctor_MOS]

time to join this discussion i believe there was another topic about this but will reply here first.

i like your idea BUT i am afraid this wont work on higher levels.
especially with your weapon
if it was Bow then i would strongly believe this could become a nice build
spear/glaive you will need close combat you will lack defense and will lack damage
As bow you could have the advantage of range and therefor 1:1 would be a good build for spear u can nuke all you want but you wont be able to kill anyone with same gear as you have at higher levels.

1:1 will make you end up with a more phy balance if i am not mistaken therefor you will need a incredible high critical weapon to be able to kill since str based damage is mostly dangerous when you crit.

your damage is probably a bit more than a str glaive but your hp is much much less.

i personally don`t think this build would work with heuksal mastery (on higher levels) but more with pacheon.

but i suggest you continue and prove me wrong, love people who try new things so keep it up

when people will know that hybrid criticals and full str criticals are almost even...
tomiator has already mentioned that he was doing more damage(he's 1:1 too) with a spear then a glavie
don't know bout crits tho. Could be another story

[glavie]

Glavie's Girl , an int hybrid with sos+5 sword, just borrowed a sos+7 blade. her critical damage went up, even though her imbue damage went down slightly.

I recommended spear, because spears tend to have a higher critical chance, not that they crit harder. They actually crit weaker. They should have slightly higher non crit damage as well.

[Doctor_MOS]

Glavie's Girl , an int hybrid with sos+5 sword, just borrowed a sos+7 blade. her critical damage went up, even though her imbue damage went down slightly.

I recommended spear, because spears tend to have a higher critical chance, not that they crit harder. They actually crit weaker. They should have slightly higher non crit damage as well.

what do you mean whit this? you will get more criticals with the same critical (for example if both spear and glavie got critical of 10. Spear gets more crits) or do you mean spear CAN have a higher critical

[Disconn3cted]

i think it would work but you should use a spear

Well, I dont get it... why should a str based char use a spear ?
Whats the meaning of this ?
IMO if the phy balance is higher (10% or sth like that) than you should use a str based weapon... so here it would be glavie !
But alright its your opinion

magic stats are always higher than phy even for pure str so they would do more dmg with spear and would crit more

with this comment then everyone should use int based weapons (sword/spear)
there is more behind the weaponstats story in damage output with each build, sad enough i cant think clearly so cant really help more now. but i still can`t come up with a "Why" someone would make a 1:1 build heuksal.

well i didn't mean "everyone" but i do know many str hybrids and low lvl pure str hit harder with a spear so i can only imagine a 1:1 hybrid would do better with a spear even though phy balance is slightly higher because the magic balance will still be doing most of the dmg

[glavie]

Glavie's Girl , an int hybrid with sos+5 sword, just borrowed a sos+7 blade. her critical damage went up, even though her imbue damage went down slightly.

I recommended spear, because spears tend to have a higher critical chance, not that they crit harder. They actually crit weaker. They should have slightly higher non crit damage as well.

what do you mean whit this? you will get more criticals with the same critical (for example if both spear and glavie got critical of 10. Spear gets more crits) or do you mean spear CAN have a higher critical

Spear Can and Usually does have a higher crit stat. A crit 12+ spear is relatively common. A crit 12 glavie is near impossible to find.

[elnawawi]

welcome borat2 in the disscusion ,

and no, there is no other topic about 1:1 build .. or you mean 70:70 bow ?!

You speak about the distance that bower have ?! .. man you forget that I'm the fastest build here with light 90 , it's micro secs before I reach any ranged attack .. that's nothing to mention exept a pure str bower have light 90 (which is almost imbosible) and always hit and run , I don't worry about crossbower as he can't 1 hit +17 k HP in protector even if he crit on me .. I don't know how wizards will deal with this build but I'm not worry about them as they will die in 1 spear throw and its loading time if a lot faster .. or I just phantom walk out of range if things go wrong .. that's why I love maxing light in cap 90 as not a lot of people will max light ..

And about crits .. I love to crit on monsters that's make them die faster and is so great even in my hybrid build .. and for a hybrid I don't care about it against human ... pure str don't do good damge and my life don't stop on crit on thems , and I can't depend on crit on pure int in armor as I will have no more 20% increase on crit on them .... anyway I can use a spear crit +14 and enjoy crit all the way but that's not the point of my hybrid .. I wanna do damge from non crit shots .. and I think that I can do with this build ..

And for me : balance 70:70 is for pacheon , balance 75:62 is for heuksal ..

And plz don't speak about lack of HP becuase this build have snow shield means that it can tank better than pure str .. (today I was mobed with 3 gaints , 1 champion , 3 general monsters same lvl as me and with semi - sos set my HP didn't gone less than half ) .. you really don't know the difference between pure str in garment with no snow shield and hybrid in protector with snow shield (mine was only 20% but the goal of this character is 35% snow shield ) ..

[elnawawi]

Well i believe in this build !
Why ? Its different and people have to suffer more for it than just go pure.
And i already mentioned... chinese chars should go hybrid IMO pure str would be also a good choice... but why dont people take the risk to try something fully new ?
Because its risky... none can be sure to have succes.
But No Risk No Fun
Just go on elnawawi.

I don't see this build is riscky at all .. in worst result you will have one of the best builds in PVE in all SRO , You will not get bored from grinding and farming .. I really don't feel the time I spend in farming lvl 27~28 warriors~soilders euro mobs .. I have no time to collect money and alchemy from the ground .. I love to kill - kill - kill like kiling machine .. non stop killing machine .. and I always don't have problem in PVE at all even when I was in normal set with normal weapon .. I kill monsters too fast and can tank great numbers of them ...

That's will make you one of the best hunters to escort traders .. you have great AOE and you will lure and kill all npc thiefs fast ..

And for PVP , at worst you will surprise all your enemy as you are new threat they don't know a lot about it and need a lot of time to know how to deal with you .... and you will own almost all euro builds easily at least you can tank all of them with snow shield ..
And If you are big noob and don't know how to deal with them just use your maxed speed and phantom and get out of the matter easily ...

And there are a lot of people love to try new builds , be good in PVE , wanna good character from eairly low lvls , love to be the fastest with no sacrificing , or love to be hybrid .. that's all some reasons to make this build

[elnawawi]

Now let's compare spear and glavie :
- If you wanna use nukes only to lure monsters / freeze people you can use glavie , it's not a matter the mag attack here .. but If you need to do some damge with nukes too you need spear that's will help ..
- if you wanna use 80:58 balance naked you Must use glavie .. it's a big difference to STR and you should consider that and use glavie .. and when you use 1:1 and have more str in your set than int this will give you big difference too .. you must use glavie too .. put if you get phy and mag close to each other you have the choice to use spear ..
- If you search about good crit weapon you will go spear , you can find crit 12 , 14 , or more in spear .. and find good crit glavie is harder .. but off course glavie will do more damge from crits .. it's only to have more times to crit ..
- If you use skills with low phy attack (like combo[86%]) it's better to use spear .. you will see the difference as the attack have more mag from imbue (100%) .. but when you use high phy attack skill glavie will be more effective .. i don't mean have both spear and glavie and switch them during battle (even it's funny idea) I mean choose weapon depends on your playing style ..
- if you wanna really confuse your enemies use glavie .. they will say that you are the biggest noob in planet when they see a glavier nuking .. and they will not understand when they see you deal great damge more than pure str and tank better than him with snow shield .. some people love to put others in puzzle .. also some people love the spear look and others love glavie look .. don't forget the ppl mood .. it's important

That's all about the glavie and spear .. that's depends ... for my character I used glavie from lvl 1 ~ 24 it work nice with this build at low lvls , I was planing to continue with glavie but I found SOS spear lvl 24+2 crit 14 with 1.8 m , I bought it and later exchange it with SOM spear +76% phy attack .. I didn't find glavie better at this degree 4 .. and I'm farming now with it and it work so fine ( when I used spear I concentarted in more INT in my set to do better ) ..

So I suggest use the best weapon you find (glavie or spear) till you reach the cap and then you can choose glavie or spear or both .. this build have more flexibility for weapons ..

[borat2]

First of all i like your attitude there should be more people like you in this game who arent afraid to try new things and believe in what they are trying so kudos for you


back to my question about pacheon or heuksal
with the new updates pacheon has knock back and stuns with the attack ratting increases your damage output is also high.
i am actually still amazed on how often bow knockback its ridiculous high.
the critical increase of pacheon also makes your build more lethal in my view due to the survivability of the combination of snow shield and the stuns/knockbacks.
as heuksal you lack damage to kill people fast enough before your snow shield runs out, i give this build more chance with pacheon than heuksal.
but i am still very curious if this will work out later try to keep it updated this might turn into the 70:70 discussion.

keep it up

[ivarz]

elnawawi i would love to come at your server too see how good your build is etc. and the server Rome i am at now is really shit for connecting i spend hours to finally get through the server traffic isseu, I only have low lvl char so far so i can easy switch server, but the problem is I have no money on Hercules and i want to go for a Dual weapon pure int this time, cause i think its really cool and i need money for it lol and i dont buy silk etc. so i don't get rich fast but if u would really like me to switch to hercules i will do it cause i would love too see you play with the build xD

[Jadekiss]

Im really curious how this build will work later on higher lvls !
So if you give up i will come and punish you elnawawi xD

[elnawawi]

Guide updated :
added new section of farming and new section about spear and glavie ..
also edited some skills use ..

Don't miss this update ..

[elnawawi]

borat2,
I don't care about if this build is the best or not , don't care if this build will own or will be owned in pvp .. I just care about givng people new build that make them not bored and have fun from doing well in PVE , we all know that pure INT build without super gear sux against good glaviers and even bladers and hybrids , and now after update crossbow and dagger and wizard and cleric and warlock kill them in 1~2 hits .. but can any one say that this build will not work ? .. wizard have no bonus HP , no shiled , No armor ( he wear robe ) , his +25% mag attack mean - 50% HP .. my lvl 42+3 crossbow 1 hit (without crit) lvl 66 wizard (I don't know 80 wizard can survive my crit or die in one hit )... can any one say that wizard isn't good build to do ?!

Ivarz,
ok man , let's switch our discussion in the game chat ..

Jadekiss,
what's the higher lvls you want ?
I'm non-botter , non-silk , non-24/ 7 grinding , non gold-buyer ..
I can't go higher lvls easily .. my max character is 4X .. ..
If you wanna see this build at higher lvls tell one of your friends to come to hercules and make a lvl 90 nuker and let he come power lvl me .. I will be about lvl 42 when he reach 90 fully farmed

[votainer]

elnawawi, my pure str glavie is now lvl 55 can i still go for this build? i use the caculator and i get like 80 something % for str and 50 something % for int at lvl 80. please share your thoughts thanks man

[elnawawi]

elnawawi, my pure str glavie is now lvl 55 can i still go for this build? i use the caculator and i get like 80 something % for str and 50 something % for int at lvl 80. please share your thoughts thanks man

mmm .. from lvl 55 ~ 80 all in INT .. you can't get 1:1 hybrid .. you will get STR hybrid of balance 83:50 naked .. can be 93:66 fully pimped and HP +18000 instead of 21000 .. I think this will work .. but take care .. this build will need both Fire and Light and some cold ..
I think about 90 fire(imbue) , 80 light , 90 heuksal , 40 cold (to get 30% snow shield) ..


you should know that every INT point you put equal : more damge , more mag def , less HP , less phy def , better chance to use snow shield , and decrease in damge increase from crit ..but never think about nukes with this balance ..

Also you have +18000 HP and +12500 MP, with 30% snow shield ..
Pure Str have +21000 HP and +8500 MP , can't use snow shield ..

If rogue crit on pure str glavier with no snow shield with 21 k he will 1 hit him ..
If he crit on you with 23 (if you wear garment too and as you have less phy def) but you have 30% snow shield will take 6.9 k from damge this will make him crit 16.1 k on you that will prevent you die in 1 hit .. you can tank the survive the most dangerous str attack ever even with crit better than Pure str ..

And against INT you will take less damge even with no snow shield you can tank too easy in garment ..

If you wear protector you can't die from any str build but you need snow shield against INT as they do decent damge on you ..

and at all cases you will do better damge on all characters and do better in PVE (try to grind all the way in protector this will make perfect result in PVE) ..

[votainer]

cool man, thx for the reply ill go for it. Thanks again