My Bow build (lvl 64) and story (I own ^^)

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:15 pm

jdoex wrote:
i said to u wait till others get they pvp moves so u can say u build is good
at lvl 70+a glaiver will eat any bower for breakfast
good luck tryn to kill a blader that will kd before u laucnh u crap bow slow moves with they 100 crit on shield and iron wall
or a glaiver with 21k of life stunning and doind 5k in a crit with mars
while u can do what to stop they moves? run to the safe zone, lol.
rolf u fight glaivers without sss, lol what a joke.

You don't have to be so pessimistic about it ... geez. You don't think bow skills just stop at level 50 don't you? They get devil arrow at 69...etc

(1) As a bower, you don't run to the safe zone, you just run while your enemy tries to get within melee range. An archer's greatest advantage is range and that's what they should take advantage of.

(2) How often are you gonna find a player with a shield w/ 100 crit or a glaiver with 21k hp? As a full str or near full str health you can easily pot away 5k of crit.

(3) If it makes any difference, 1v1 pvp are pretty meh. Group fights are where each class can show their strengths.

Oh and for the OP, I forgot to say earlier, congrats on your build and gear. It looks really sweet.

so basicly your a nuker... but without the dmg or the def from a shield.. and with a little more hp to make your death last longer..

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:01 pm

and a lot more range.

Miletus · Post by **Miletus** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:33 pm

Build doesnt matter eq does but in my mind if a str hybrid and str had godly eq then the pure str would win cuz the pure str would have he bow at max crit and own + also when the 70 -90 skills come in anti devil bow will go to like 40 crit increase so str bowers will crit more often and out dmg hybrids

also look at death2all highest dmg like 86k dmg hybrids arent even close
as more and more skills come bowers in general will be better i mean they have god walk - 30 m maybe even 40 m arhers are gunna own,

Xob!le · Post by **Xob!le** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:10 am

Every build is great, as long as they're not being attacked.

taintofsleep · Post by **taintofsleep** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:42 am

except a blader. I think they want to be attacked.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:49 am

At lvl 52 I had an sos+7 bow. With a 4 gap I could kill people up to lvl 56 with ease also. I didnt even had poonage gear. I can only imagen what I was able to kill with a 0 gap and poonage gear, prob until lvl 60.

Right now I am lvl 62 with a normal 60+5 bow, not uber poonage gear and a 5 gap. I do around 23k damage on a mangyan or however you spell it. On lvl 64 I will have a 7 gap and a 64+7 bow, I will prob do less damage then you, but that 2k damage on a mangyan you can have for free from me. I rather have 2k hp more ^^.

Not to pee on youre build. I love everybody that tries something outside the box, it's just youre bow build isnt that awesomly strong as you suggest.

flexo · Post by **flexo** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:52 pm

taintofsleep wrote:except a blader. I think they want to be attacked.

they don't want to be attacked.. they just don't care if they do get attacked..

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:26 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

pro0 · Post by **pro0** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:05 am

hey so wats ur build?

str 2:1??

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:12 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

kianleong · Post by **kianleong** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:35 am

Regarding the Ice Immune, just max out Fire Shield to get 78% reduce, and 22% from your accessories !

The bug here is Fire Shield is still on after you take off your shield !

Same bug to the Hawk Summon...

I started my Bow build with Ice imbue, when I knew this bug I switched to Fire. Although I'm immune to all except Lightning now, I really hope the bug can be fixed as I want my Ice imbue back. (I think bower should use Ice to keep range advantage, personally)

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:29 am

You stopped reading my post after I posted my 52 bow. You yourself had a sos+5 bow and right now have another one, wich is about a +10/+11 weapon. Dont critize my post on something like a weapon when you have a simimular weapon.

I will posts screens of my damage on earth ghost. But keep in mind that i am only 62 with a 60+5 bow.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:55 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:29 pm

I right now, am killing ghost bugs in 2 normal attacks. When I reach 64 I will be able to kill them in the same way as you are with a 7 gap. I am not going to delevel my skills to have a 9 gap also.

I admire youre build if it is really stronger, I just have some curious doubts against it. Based on the fact that I pvped with a hybrid bow and I killed him 4 out of 5 times. The only time he won ironicly enough was cause he critted 2 times in a row, not that he did way more damage. And yeah yeah, he could have shitty gear etc. All I know is that I have shitty gear and that he prob also had it ^^

Morlaf · Post by **Morlaf** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:45 am

rofl I showed one of my guildies this post and he's like "omg they're giving away my build >_<!"

In truth I have almost this exact same build, but I don't use a bow(ew bows)

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:29 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:09 am

do you have zerk on in the movie?

Megaman · Post by **Megaman** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:23 am

liquidsmooth wrote:I can crit a mongaoy (lvl 1 mosnters) for 36079 without bizurker.

Your logic in this sentence = fail.

Using the fact that you (being a STR hybrid) can crit a mangyang unzerked for ~36k to promote your build is hypocritical at least.

Using the rule that pure STR > hybrid STR in terms of critical damage

Go buy NPC items of your level, as well as an NPC bow.

Now go find a PURE STR bower who is your level, with your skills. Get them in NPC gear+weapon too.

I can GUARANTEE that the STR bower WILL out damage you in criticals.

You are not in fact promoting your build, but your gear.

Fadex · Post by **Fadex** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:06 pm

MegaMan wrote:
liquidsmooth wrote:I can crit a mongaoy (lvl 1 mosnters) for 36079 without bizurker.

Your logic in this sentence = fail.

Using the fact that you (being a STR hybrid) can crit a mangyang unzerked for ~36k to promote your build is hypocritical at least.

Using the rule that pure STR > hybrid STR in terms of critical damage

Go buy NPC items of your level, as well as an NPC bow.

Now go find a PURE STR bower who is your level, with your skills. Get them in NPC gear+weapon too.

I can GUARANTEE that the STR bower WILL out damage you in criticals.

You are not in fact promoting your build, but your gear.

ur pretty noob, a npc bow has crit4, u think he will get lots of crits? he will get raped by liquid because liquids build doesnt depend on that much crits like a str bow does.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:36 pm

Liquids built also doenst have a shizzle load of hp and IF he crits, the crit will be deadly.

borat2 · Post by **borat2** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:27 pm

so you are fully farmed and claim you own others? and think it is the build? come on dude
the fact that you are on a small or closed gap should explain a lot

gear + sp = best build.
Fadex you kinda missed the whole point of megaman reply"I can GUARANTEE that the STR bower WILL out damage you in criticals."

wait till you are capped and post again while fighting other fully farmed capped players.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:03 pm

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:32 pm

so i dont understand..

you do less damage than a full str when you both critical.

but you do more damage if you dont critical and he doesnt critical.

but he has more hp.

hybrid str = full str because they cancel out?

with a crit 13+ bow i think youd lose to a pure str bow about 75% of the time.

i know your argument is not "my bow build is better than pure str bow" but im starting a bow character and im leaning on the pure str side.

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:55 pm

Just to trow in a overrated argument into this overrated argument: Doesnt a bow depent on his crit?

Megaman · Post by **Megaman** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:40 pm

Fadex wrote:
MegaMan wrote:
liquidsmooth wrote:I can crit a mongaoy (lvl 1 mosnters) for 36079 without bizurker.

Your logic in this sentence = fail.

Using the fact that you (being a STR hybrid) can crit a mangyang unzerked for ~36k to promote your build is hypocritical at least.

Using the rule that pure STR > hybrid STR in terms of critical damage

Go buy NPC items of your level, as well as an NPC bow.

Now go find a PURE STR bower who is your level, with your skills. Get them in NPC gear+weapon too.

I can GUARANTEE that the STR bower WILL out damage you in criticals.

You are not in fact promoting your build, but your gear.

ur pretty noob, a npc bow has crit4, u think he will get lots of crits? he will get raped by liquid because liquids build doesnt depend on that much crits like a str bow does.

I was talking about hitting mangyangs, read the first paragraph. I was saying that the str bows crits would be considerably higher.

He used the fact that he critted mangyangs unzerked for 36k. I'm not putting shit on the build, i'm just saying that a str-hybrid can't promote his build by saying how high his/her crits are, because a pure str's crits would always outdamage them with identical gear.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:16 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · Post by **[TS]=Hark=[TS]** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:29 am

i got 2things to say...

1) have any of you ever tried a bow build? i am lvl 37 almsot pure str ice archer (all hunter baby!) and i have basic ncp stuff. my bow is lvl 35 with a 9crit and thats it, my pro is all ncp (with a few random blues liek steady or immortal that i find on the ground) and i got a 5lvl gap now(buidling a 9 for farming at lvl 42). what im getting at here is that i can two hit yeowas (lvl 36) and 4hit bandits (black robbers lvl 38). sometimes i can 2hit bandits but i need to crit my strong bow. i have hunted on all of our guild trades sence i am the leader and most of them are succesfull. i kill nukers my lvl, bladers dont stand a chance less they block my crit, but glaivers are my worst enemy cause i got lvl 32 skilsl and when a fully farmed glaiver coems and soul spear truth me then i get scared. only thing with a nuker is that they hit me for 1.8 k roughly a hit cause im in pro(if i was in garm it would be lower) so i cant take many nukes before i die. but i got my auto pot on 55% for pvp and it takes care of that problem.

2) question for liquidsmooth...

i notice you got autom wind snake maxed out... is that a good skill ? i have autom wind flame maxed but im not sure i want snake cause so manny ppl tell me i need to down lvl it and then up my zerker arrow. i got autom wind series tho for the fact that no one ever uses it . i like to be differnt but i want to make sure that my differnce wont kill me. btw anti devil =600 (roughly without crit) autom wind flame = 400 (agian without crit) and zerker arrow =580 (roughly without crit) all on black robbers. so im just worried that autom wind wil be too weak for a main skill. my current main skills are strong bow, anti devil, 3arrow combo, then aumunt wind for pve and zerker for pvp.

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:40 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.

Fadex · Post by **Fadex** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:10 am

MegaMan wrote:
Fadex wrote:
MegaMan wrote:
liquidsmooth wrote:I can crit a mongaoy (lvl 1 mosnters) for 36079 without bizurker.

Your logic in this sentence = fail.

Using the fact that you (being a STR hybrid) can crit a mangyang unzerked for ~36k to promote your build is hypocritical at least.

Using the rule that pure STR > hybrid STR in terms of critical damage

Go buy NPC items of your level, as well as an NPC bow.

Now go find a PURE STR bower who is your level, with your skills. Get them in NPC gear+weapon too.

I can GUARANTEE that the STR bower WILL out damage you in criticals.

You are not in fact promoting your build, but your gear.

ur pretty noob, a npc bow has crit4, u think he will get lots of crits? he will get raped by liquid because liquids build doesnt depend on that much crits like a str bow does.

I was talking about hitting mangyangs, read the first paragraph. I was saying that the str bows crits would be considerably higher.

He used the fact that he critted mangyangs unzerked for 36k. I'm not putting shit on the build, i'm just saying that a str-hybrid can't promote his build by saying how high his/her crits are, because a pure str's crits would always outdamage them with identical gear.

srry 1-0 to you

liquidsmooth · Post by **liquidsmooth** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:52 am

If you wanted to know the build, sorry, Blame De_realist. I wont' be posting in this topic again.